Speculations Big Mom won't lose to Wano

[Mugiwara56]

I'm not sure Big Mom is going to lose in Wano like we all think.

I really think only Kaido will be beaten by Luffy (and his empire) But not Big Mom And why ? Because the symbolism of the Wano Kuni fight only concerns a few people.

-Oden
-Kaido
-Orochi
-Luffy -
The Kozuki family and the ships of Oden

Big Mom doesn't seem to have any connection to Wano Kuni's story

Also to open Wano Kuni you have to defeat Kaido and Orochi (I don't think he's dead) In Oden's diary Kaido's defeat is predicted but Big Mom's not And on top of that we Big Mom is known to be a strategist, she knows everything that happens in this world besides being extremely powerful, I think at some point in the fight she will betray Kaido when he has a critical moment of the fight between Luffy and Kaido.

She did tell Perospero to trust him about what she was doing for the alliance with Kaido Big Mom is far from being stupid and I think Kaido is on his guard but she will get ahead of him We must not forget the Erbaf arc that binds Luffy, Ussop, the giants, Lola the daughter of Big Mom for her marriage which was not made Scriptually Big Mom Can't Lose Now And then I think she will be the one who will steal Kaido's poneglyphs .

I also have something else to say: Luffy said he had to beat all the emperors in Punk Hazard remember?

What if Luffy's progression in the face of the Emperors would show like this :
Luffy defeats an Emperor with help from Kaido (Wano Kuni)

Luffy and the others weaken Kaido Then Luffy finishes it in a 1 vs 1

Luffy beats an Emperor alone but after several Big Mom rounds (Arc Erbaf)

Shanks, I don't know if he's going to fight him, I rather see Blackbeard taking care of it

Luffy defeats his last rival and antagonists in one all alone (Laugh Tale) Blackbeard

What do you think ?

Do you really think Bm will actually be beaten at Wano Kuni ?

Will she be present at the Erbaf arc? Will she betray Kaido?

 

[Fuckthis3]

Agree she goin lose to oda

 

[Buusatan94]

I have been certain that she will return to Elbaf ever since her flashback.

And her story will definitively not end in Wano, especially with the great majority of her crew and children being still in Totto Land and her being likely to have another amnesia or mind change.

 

[Mugiwara56]

I have been certain that she will return to Elbaf ever since her flashback.

And her story will definitively not end in Wano, especially with the great majority of her crew and children being still in Totto Land and her being likely to have another amnesia or mind change.

I have exactly the same opinion

 

[Arrow]

I commented on the chapter thread, Big Mom felt so out of place. The alliance is only attacking Kaido and she's just there. Would have been better without her.

 

[ShinichiMugi]

Well if you think that every arc of the post-timeskip is consequence of the previous one,Big Mom is included in all of this. In Fishman Island we get introduced to her and also to the Reverie. Then in Punk Hazard and Dressrosa Oda develops the Wano/Kaido storyline,but still reminds us that Big Mom is there in that event of Dressrosa arc when Sanji and co. are found by her crew. Then in Zou we got both the Kaido storyline and the Big Mom storyline developed. In Whole Cake Oda develops the BM storyline,then the Reverie arc happens,then we have Wano in which all the 3 storylines (Kaido,Big Mom,and the Reverie one,with the chapters between the Acts) collide. So i not only think that Big Mom should be defeated in Wano too,but i also think that the events happened in the Reverie must influence Wano at some point of the arc,i dont know how though.

 

[Date]

Imagine if Oda drags Big Mom for one more Arc and destroy the Elbaf Arc with more of her bullshit🤮🤮🤮🤮

For me she and Kaido will go down together, Oda has been buildings the two together since Thriller Bark and her defeat by the SH will be the thing that will make them have the favor of the Giants. This "return of the Rocks" plot will end with the last big fishs from Rocks going down and the New Generation taking their places.



Oda even gave us some hints that BM and Peros will be out of the game for Katakuri to become the next King of Tottland

 

[Veljko]

Lol so Big Mom gonna have 3 arcs directly involving her, 2 arcs to mention her, Big Mom character is boring and not interesting, we saw Oda don't make Luffy vs female all out fight (and only making joke of BM when she fights), i don't Wana her being introduced anymore she needed, but there is possibilitiy she gonna come in Elbaf, but i hope not

 

[SkySanji]

Not enough time for a fleshed out Elbaf arc so she'll probably be defeated in Wano.

 

[Extravlad]

If Bigmom escapes Wano then I guarantee you she will be used as an hypetool for someone else

Oda wants to wrap up the story we don't have time for another gigantic WCI/Wano size arc focusing on her again.

She falls in Wano imo, if she doesn't then she'll be taken out by someone else, an Admiral or a Yonko, perhaps Shanks to hype him up before BM inevitably kills her or perhaps WEEVIL who will prove he is the beast Kizaru hyped

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Maybe she will end unbeatable in the entire series lul, it'll be funny.

 

[SkySanji]

Maybe she will end unbeatable in the entire series lul, it'll be funny.

Luffy's goal is to take down all the Yonko though and he's specifically stated that he will defeat Big Mom.

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

Luffy's goal is to take down all the Yonko though and he's specifically stated that he will defeat Big Mom.

But I don't see her fall in this arc, so it's difficult to believe that we'll have her in the next arc again (or any other after this one).

 

[Extravlad]

But I don't see her fall in this arc, so it's difficult to believe that we'll have her in the next arc again (or any other after this one).

If she survives Wano she's toast.
Hypetool for either Shanks,Ryukugyu or Weevil.
Blackbeard doesn't really need to kill her cause he'll get clout for beating Shanks.

 

[Buusatan94]

But I don't see her fall in this arc, so it's difficult to believe that we'll have her in the next arc again (or any other after this one).

Truth to be told at this point I expect her to have another change of mentality and revert back to her kind and generous childhood personnality again, I suspect that O-Lin is prelude and foreshadowing to what may happen with her.

 

[D.Querna]

Bigmom sails from Wa no with mugy and will be tama's personal guard around the world with carrots, yamato, shinobu, wanda dog and babbuin.

Napoleon with law
Zeus e prometheus with nami

 

[Steven]

5 SN´s are not able to defeat 2 Yonkous

She will not fall here

 

[SkySanji]

She could become O-Lin and join the Grand Fleet

 

[PurpleSwordsman]

If she survives Wano she's toast.
Hypetool for either Shanks,Ryukugyu or Weevil.
Blackbeard doesn't really need to kill her cause he'll get clout for beating Shanks.

Those three would be hypetools for BM, not the opposite lol.

Truth to be told at this point I expect her to have another change of mentality and revert back to her kind and generous childhood personnality again, I suspect that O-Lin is prelude and foreshadowing to what may happen with her.

 

[Davidsuxx]

I wouldn’t be surprised if she escapes before Kaido is defeated but I also don’t see her continuing as an major antagonist past wano