General & Others Birdcage vs beast pirates

#22
Except Fujitora cannot destroy Kaido's army whereas Kaido can destroy the Dressrosa fodder casually, we already saw him treat Post-WCI Luffy like an ant and he's stronger than anybody in Dressrosa except Fujitora

Fujitora has never fodderized anybody, couldn't beat Sabo, couldn't beat Karasu, couldn't even have the upper hand against G3 Luffy in Dressrosa lmao, I'm not gifting Fujitora the feats of other characters.
He can tho
Most of the beast pirates get casually destroyed by any admiral. Kaido one shots everyone in his crew too yet heโ€™s still comparable to Linlin. Same way shanks is still comparable Blackbeard despite bb not casually one shotting law


Fujitora was holding back throughout all of dressrosa. Also feats donโ€™t matter portrayal does. The only time feats actually matter is when who has better portrayal is arguable

At the end of the day the man is an admiral and a full on top tier. And again heโ€™s not alone
 

nik87

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#24
Zoro>Fujitora>Sabo>Law~Luffy is the pecking order of the Birdcage top dogs which is quite a force. 2 top tiers, one Yc1 and 2 Yc2s.

Among Beast Pirates, there are 2 critical obstacles - King and Kaido, the rest is fodder.

Law should be used against that fodder as that is where he is the most effective in this battle. Switching the souls alone of Queen, Jack, Flying Six will render them nearly useless, then detaching them into pieces will seal the deal.

That leaves Luffy, Fujitora, Sabo and Zoro to deal with with 2 critical obstacles. While Luffy is not much help as he is known one-shot material for either King or Kaido, in team he could still be used for distractions if nothing else.

Sabo should be incredible CQC fighter but his style is incredibly ineffective against both obstacles. That makes 2 useless guys in Birdcage team, it is all up to the two swordsmen.

Using Zoro and Fujitora to take care of King would be bad strategy, while they can keep him in check, all their efforts might result in nothing as long as King remains in flame mode.

That means the two ineffective ones, Luffy and Sabo, should be deployed to keep King in check. Hopefully, Sabo's observation, reflexes and haki are good enough to protect Luffy from Jackpot.

Zoro and Fujitora team up against Kaido and win, then they proceed to go down the ladder and eliminate King as well and ultimately achieve victory.
 
#25
He can tho
Most of the beast pirates get casually destroyed by any admiral. Kaido one shots everyone in his crew too yet heโ€™s still comparable to Linlin. Same way shanks is still comparable Blackbeard despite bb not casually one shotting law


Fujitora was holding back throughout all of dressrosa. Also feats donโ€™t matter portrayal does. The only time feats actually matter is when who has better portrayal is arguable

At the end of the day the man is an admiral and a full on top tier. And again heโ€™s not alone
No
Just cause GB defeated injured Calamities and gifters doesn't mean an admiral can solo a Yonko crew easily
They can't. In fact I don't think any admiral can beat a Yonko crew (excluding the captain) bar Akainu who was shown alone able to fight WBP commanders for a while before help
 
#26
No
Just cause GB defeated injured Calamities and gifters doesn't mean an admiral can solo a Yonko crew easily
They can't. In fact I don't think any admiral can beat a Yonko crew (excluding the captain) bar Akainu who was shown alone able to fight WBP commanders for a while before help
Old Garp arguably weaker than any current admiral would mow down the bbp if outside Kuzan and Blackbeard himself

Whether an admiral can tack down the full crew fine thatโ€™s arguable but they definitely taking out most. Itโ€™s not going to be easy with all the numbers and abilities but for the most part they do wipe through a good chunk of them.

Letโ€™s not pretend like ryokugyu wouldnโ€™t be tearing through the beast pirates regardless if he was serious
 

nik87

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#28
Well, what would you disagree with? :quest:
Zoro? The guy who can keep 2 Emperors in check being a top tier?
Sabo being YC1? He is certainly not lower, can only be higher but mastery of DF at that point is at minimum.
Luffy and Law being YC2? Two of them were needed to bring down Doffy who is on the same level as YC1s.
 
#29
Well, what would you disagree with? :quest:
Zoro? The guy who can keep 2 Emperors in check being a top tier?
Sabo being YC1? He is certainly not lower, can only be higher but mastery of DF at that point is at minimum.
Luffy and Law being YC2? Two of them were needed to bring down Doffy who is on the same level as YC1s.
It's Issho > Sabo > Luffy ~ Zoro > Law
 
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