Character Discussion Blackbeard a fraud?

Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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Bet on Loki for being Xebec’s true successor
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Same way Ace and Shanks aren’t joyboy or Roger’s true successors. Instead it being his closet rival’s grandson aka Luffy

Blackbeard might just another weevil that thinks he deserves to be the successor of xebec due to being his son. Likely due to his mother
Unless Blackbeard’s mom had kids with a different man after xebec’s death it seems unlikely that teach has any siblings. So the theory of his sisters being a part of him letting him eat multiple devil fruits wouldn’t be the case

With Blackbeards weird body and the fact he doesn’t sleep it might be the case where his mom quit literally gave her life up to him. Her being a strong woman that xebec fell in love with she might know some weird “magic”, technique, or whatever needed to make it happen. Her literally becoming a part of him

Honestly it might parallel weevils relationship with his mother buckings. Her basically leading his life and making him spiteful to anyone she considers an enemy to Whitebeard’s will or just not deserving of it. Blackbeard could be the same way with his mother basically having him do everything she wants him to to “avenge” xebec. It’d also explains how he are a second fruit





Again wasn’t shanks or ace that carried on Roger’s will but his most trusted rival’s grandson
Xebec’s most trusted rival and friend being Harald. His son Loki already looking up to xebec


Ironically or not oden and Kaido’s kids also lowkey kinda swapped too
Yamato idolizing oden and looking up to him when it comes to how to be a pirate and be free. Momonosuke literally has the same fruit as kaido and we might find out that kaido’s goals in wano might be something momo himself has to do. Obviously in a more ethical way tho

Hell Ace Roger’s son ended up idolizing Whitebeard who also happened to be a rival of Roger
 
soupongo

soupongo

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We pretty much have a parallel scene already with Xebec and Teach, we have Xebec asking Harald to work with him and conquer the world.

And we have the OG scene where Blackbeard asks Ace to team up with him

Both saying the dream of taking over the world, facing up. The only other time we have a scene like this is both Luffy and Roger saying their dreams.

Loki on the other hand just says he wants to destroy the world, which he doesn´t even really want to do, he´s just being an edgelord. So no, he isn´t really a Xebec parallel, just inspired by him
(noticeably, parallels are usually not fanboys of eachother)

What does Loki inheriting Xebecs will even entail?
 
Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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soupongo said:
We pretty much have a parallel scene already with Xebec and Teach, we have Xebec asking Harald to work with him and conquer the world.

And we have the OG scene where Blackbeard asks Ace to team up with him

Both saying the dream of taking over the world, facing up. The only other time we have a scene like this is both Luffy and Roger saying their dreams.

Loki on the other hand just says he wants to destroy the world, which he doesn´t even really want to do, he´s just being an edgelord. So no, he isn´t really a Xebec parallel, just inspired by him
(noticeably, parallels are usually not fanboys of eachother)

What does Loki inheriting Xebecs will even entail?
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Both shanks and Ace share similarities and parallels with Roger despite not being the true inheritors of his true will.
  • Like Ace himself had the potential to surpass Roger’s (along with Whitebeard) legacy which is why they wanted him dead. He was likely who everyone throught would be to successor to Roger and joyboy. He also had lots of personality traits that reminded people of Roger
  • Shanks is basically the mid gen Roger. Someone who was also believed at one point to be the one that will succeed him. Inheriting his fighting techniques, being a master of haki, and is likely living his life the way he is for Roger. As in he’s doing everything he can to make destiny come true. He Ironically enough was likely looking for Ace before he met Luffy. Hell shanks himself still want the one piece despite everything too
Point is I don’t think Blackbeard having similarities to Xebec means he’s 100% the true successor to his will

When it comes to Loki we don’t know his true intentions and dreams but I personally have high hopes.
And I think being a fanboy can get you a long way when looking at Luffy and arguably Yamato. Luffy succeeding shanks and doing the things he couldn’t do. Yamato going on a similar journey as oden as an adventurer and protector of wano. Obviously Yamato doesn’t want to be shogun and won’t surpass him as a swordsman that’s up to Momonosuke but in their own way they’re both following in odens footsteps

As for what would it mean for Loki to be the one to succeed Xebec? Tbh idk fully but if Davy Jones and joyboy were on good terms and allies I can see Loki fitting that role better than Blackbeard for Luffy. Shanks and Blackbeard being too tied to each other too
 
Etzel Andergast

Etzel Andergast

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SkySanji said:
It really is crazy just how much of a downgrade Blackbeard is from Xebec. He'd have been a much better character if he was more like his father.
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His negative personality traits is what makes him a great character (cheater, coward, liar, manipulative) and at the same time he is funny, he is able to recognize greatness, he doesnt care of what the others think about him, etc
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Etzel Andergast said:
His negative personality traits is what makes him a great character (cheater, coward, liar, manipulative) and at the same time he is funny, he is able to recognize greatness, he doesnt care of what the others think about him, etc
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He is much more interesting than Xebec
 
Roo

Roo

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Parallels in one piece are not directly 1to1

Roger is Luffy’s parallel but acts like Ace

Garp is Koby’s parallel but is literally a more mature Luffy

Rocks is Teach’s parallel but his relationship with his Luffy is more like Kid’s.

Teach is obviously the inheritor of Davy’s will. Loki is not that important compared to the guy who has fought all of Luffy’s friends/family
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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The will of Davy Jones has been passed down the Davy clan. It’s not going to be inherited by someone who’s not even a D let alone someone who doesn’t even understand what Promise the Davy are fighting for.
 
soupongo

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Albino 👑 said:
Both shanks and Ace share similarities and parallels with Roger despite not being the true inheritors of his true will.
  • Like Ace himself had the potential to surpass Roger’s (along with Whitebeard) legacy which is why they wanted him dead. He was likely who everyone throught would be to successor to Roger and joyboy. He also had lots of personality traits that reminded people of Roger
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No they aren´t, and they really don´t. The only major personality trait Ace shares with his dad is disliking being insulted, and their friends being insulted, which is a common criminal thing anyway.

When it comes to inheriting Rogers will, only Luffy did, as Shanks and Ace do not have the same dream as him. Similarly, only Teach shares Xebecs goal, so logically he is the one who inherited his will.

Albino 👑 said:
Point is I don’t think Blackbeard having similarities to Xebec means he’s 100% the true successor to his will
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Besides inheriting his dream, how else do you define being a successor of someones will? Just general vague similarities? You can make that about any character in OP, since Oda has made like 5 character archetypes in 30 years

Albino 👑 said:
When it comes to Loki we don’t know his true intentions and dreams but I personally have high hopes.
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What do you need to know? He isn´t trying to rule Elbaf let alone the world. Xebec wanted to rule the world. Loki is just a misunderstood troublemaker who liked Xebec because he thought he was cool.

Albino 👑 said:
. Luffy succeeding shanks and doing the things he couldn’t do. Yamato going on a similar journey as oden as an adventurer and protector of wano. Obviously Yamato doesn’t want to be shogun and won’t surpass him as a swordsman that’s up to Momonosuke but in their own way they’re both following in odens footsteps
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Luffy didn´t inherit Shanks will, since he´s currently alive, and Yamato did not Inherit Odens will, which is opening Odens borders. She can be a fanboy and copy his adventures, but that isn´t what inherited will means.
 
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