General & Others Blackbeard and Straw Hat Pirate similarities

#21
Don't understand why so many people still thinks Strawhats East blue vs BB first 5 captains only clear we have luffy vs BB zoro vs Shiryu ussop vs auger and chopper vs Doc q
Also I see some people saying nami vs laffite and robin vs Devon but there is a funny fact Devon is known for haunt and kill beatiful woman nami is the Most beatiful in the crew and if laffite possition is because iq and not strenght then he is fighting robin or still Brook since the parallels or it could be robin + Brook vs laffite like bae maria
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But if Yamato joins she is fighting Devon
I do it because Oda showed the 2-5 Titanic Captains when Luffy became the fifth emperor.
 
#27
i don't think this will age well. the roles, apart from sniper and swordsman, are not really combat related so they shouldn't matter, and they have never mattered in the story so far. some power scaling, similar abilties and backstories matter.

pizarro won't fight sanji, he is too weak. lafitte confidently threatened him when they entered the new world. the demon sheriff is stronger. pizarro was a king from the north blue? sanji isn't really identifying as a vinsmoke. he hates his psychopathic brothers and lafitte is also a psychopath, one with a lanky figure and stepdance skills (he kicks).

the 10th captian won't fight the last strawhat. the 10th captain will be a woman and fight nami, as she always fights women. it will be the equally greedy miss bakkin.

devon will obviously go up against yamato, both have mythical dog fruits. also identity issues. devon kills beautiful women probably because she is bitter about her own appearanc.e yamato wants to be different too, she wants to be oden.

pizarro's arms are not his most striking feature. he meows, he has feline eyes and so on. clearly a zoan user. might even be an animal that preys on deer. he will fight chopper.

doc q and brook share the death theme.

vaso shot is the heavy drinker, franky also drinks alot but cola and not sake.

robin and wolf both have paramecia's that make their bodies grow. wolf can make himself bigger, robin can grow her bodyparts everywhere. also there might be connections to tequilla wolf in both cases.
 
#34
I am documenting the similarities each Straw Hat has to their assumed Blackbeard Pirate counterparts and will update with new information or input from other users. Luffy aims for ten members (himself excluded), and Blackbeard has ten Titanic Captains; clearly the Blackbeard Pirates are the Straw Hats' (as TV Tropes calls it) "Psycho Rangers." Determining the Blackbeard Pirates match-ups is tricky because their similarities aren't limited to just one Straw Hat. Lafitte is a navigator like Nami but also brandishes a cane like Brook, so who does he mirror exactly? I'm going with the "jobs versus jobs" theory. One, they tell you more about each member on a deeper level, and two, they make this neat pattern (as you'll see below).

Titan 1 VS First New World Recruit
Jesus Burgess (1) + Jimbei (9)
  • Roles: Helmsman.
  • Specialize in a specific martial arts.
  • Renowned for their strength.
Also comparable to: Sanji, Franky

Titans 2–5 VS East Blue Recruits
Shiryu (2) + Roronoa Zoro (1)
  • Shiryu has no confirmed role (combatant? swordsman?).
  • "Number two" of their crew (according to the 1031 colorspread).
  • Devoted to the blade.
  • Met their captain while incarcerated.
  • Infamous at their former occupation, which involved rough-housing convicts.
  • Shiryu is the tsujigiri Zoro's been purported to be.
Van Auger (3) + Usopp (3)
  • Roles: Sniper
  • Auger debuted dazzling Usopp from afar with his sniping feats.
  • Will find their opponent's capabilities and weaknesses with little to no strife.
  • Heralded from the East Blue.
  • Auger is straightlaced and possesses a firearm, but Usopp is eccentric and brandishes goofy (but lethal) slingshots.
  • Auger is the calmest Blackbeard Pirate, but Usopp's the most cowardly Straw Hat.
Avalo Pizzaro (4) + Sanji (4)
  • Pizzaro has no confirmed role (chef?).
  • Rejected North Blue royalty.
  • Pizarro might throw down with his metal arms as a contrast to Sanji's leg style.
Notes
  • Ivankov neglected to name Pizarro with Catarina Devon, Sanjuan Wolf, and Vasco Shot in ch. 538. (Not the first time an okama missed someone, looks at Mr. 2.)
  • Pizarro and Shiryu were the only Impel Down recruits not dawning the prisoner getup.
  • Pizarro had his first postskip title box in the chapter that revealed Shiryu and Devon having Devil Fruits that are the same or similar to past Sanji opponents (just saying).
Lafitte (5) + Nami (2)
  • Roles: Navigator
  • Lafitte's navigational skills must be off the charts (no pun intended) if he gets by without a Log Pose.
  • Exceptional infiltration skills (Lafitte's probably more exceptional because he sneaked into Sengoku's conference at Mariejois).
  • Lafitte may be a sadistic constable tossed out of his own jurisdiction by its people but Nami's a well-known thief beloved in her home village.
Notes
  • A male opponent would be abnormal for Nami but consider Lafitte's feminine attributes.
  • Lafitte and Shiryu were reintroduced in the timeskip side-by-side with title boxes, maybe as some parallel to the Romance Trio (or Monster Trio?).
  • Lafitte has hints of being a siren Zoan, seductress beings. Who else do we know is a seductress?
Also comparable to: Sanji, Brook

Titans 6–9 VS Paradise Recruits
Catarina Devon (6) + Nico Robin (6)
  • Devon has no confirmed role (historian?).
  • The rumors of Robin being this vile woman are untrue, but they certainly are true for Devon.
  • Dark sense of humor, but Devon takes it to another level (Robin's at least friendly).
Also comparable to: Nami

Sanjuan Wolf (7) + Franky (7)
  • Wolf has no confirmed role (shipwright?).
  • Relate to battleships somehow even if Sanjuan Wolf's was due to an epithet pertaining to his size.
  • Round eyes with visible downward eyelash marks.
Notes
  • Played vital roles when their crew lost their original ship.
  • Sanjuan Wolf might be named after the Spanish warship called the San Juan Nepomuceno.
Also comparable to: Tony Tony Chopper

Vasco Shot (8) + Brook (8)
  • Shot has no confirmed role (musician? entertainer?).
Notes
  • The jester hat probably means Shot is a performer.
Doc Q (9) + Tony Tony Chopper (5)
  • Roles: Doctor
  • Associated with animals.
Also comparable to: Brook

Titan 10 VS Final New World
Tenth Titan (10) + Tenth Straw Hat (10)
  • No confirmed roles for either.
  • Mystery person.

Other Notes
  • Blackbeard's initial members are essentially Luffy's first five with Zoro and Sanji's counterparts swapped out for Jimbei's.
  • Blackbeard had Burgess (Jimbei's counterpart) from the get-go and met Zoro's counterpart at Impel Down; Luffy had Zoro from the get-go and met Jimbei at Impel Down.
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Something that I think is worth noting is that Laffitte is a former sheriff who was fired for police brutality. Nami is a thief who suffered because of corrupt authority like him
I think Nami vs Laffitte is the most likely matchup for her
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Also if Sanji fights laffite then who the fuck is fighting pizarro nami no because is a woman and I don't see nami vs laffite either
I don't think Sanji's fighting Laffitte but I think Vivi will fight Pizarro. He was an evil king; she's a good queen. Makes perfect sense
 
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#35
Something that I think is worth noting is that Laffitte is a former sheriff who was fired for police brutality. Nami is a thief who suffered because of corrupt authority like him
I think Nami vs Laffitte is the most likely matchup for her
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I don't think Sanji's fighting Laffitte but I think Vivi will fight Pizarro. He was an evil king; she's a good queen. Makes perfect sense
There's no way Vivi can beat a titanic captain, Oda has to do some heaps of bullshit for that. Maybe Big Mom revives or Weevil becomes the Big Mom of that arc.

Might as well have Yamato join later to take one of them.
 
#37
Well if pizarro is the one that kidnap pudding then he is fighting Sanji oda is hiding him probably because he is third stronger I don't understand why some says pizarro vs a woman knowing oda treatment with women if pizarro fights a woman is yamato if she joins later
 
#38
I still think its portrayal that matters

Teach - Luffy

Shiryu - Zoro

ID gang - Sanji, Jinbe, Franky, Robin

OG gang - Brook, Chopper, Nami, Usopp

10th is a wild card and we dont have matching number of members so far so its anyones guess. Maybe BBP lose a member before (Wolf?) so Sanji or Jinbe fight the 10th
 
#40
There's no way Vivi can beat a titanic captain, Oda has to do some heaps of bullshit for that. Maybe Big Mom revives or Weevil becomes the Big Mom of that arc.

Might as well have Yamato join later to take one of them.
Or maybe Vivi could’ve just gotten stronger offscreen
Given how Doc Q’s powers contrast with Chopper’s dream, it really does seem like each of the BB captains are going to be a thematic foil to whichever Strawhat they fight. Pizarro’s epithet is literally “Corrupt King” and none of the official Strawhats contrast that description. Even Sanji actively rejects his heritage, so Pizarro doesn’t work as a matchup for him. Only Vivi really makes sense here imo
 
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