Powers & Abilities Blackbeard/Whitebeard division heiarchy means something

#21
I don't see Shiryu and Oden parallel. Oden seems like a standalone wanked character. He didn't even reach his peak when he was on Whitebeard ship far from it even. I don't see a Marco Parallel on the sip either. Blackbeard mirrors both Whitebeard and Xebec. I don't think commanders numbers mean anything either because Burgess is far from the strongest.
 
#23
I don't see Shiryu and Oden parallel. Oden seems like a standalone wanked character. He didn't even reach his peak when he was on Whitebeard ship far from it even. I don't see a Marco Parallel on the sip either. Blackbeard mirrors both Whitebeard and Xebec. I don't think commanders numbers mean anything either because Burgess is far from the strongest.
There are some parallels between oden and shyriu
Also burgess the jozu of the crew wrestling and physical strenght
Their feats are similar
 

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#24
D: About the Whitebeard Pirates, if there are pirates from the "Whitebeard ally groups", is there a possibility of one of them becoming a commander of the real Whitebeard Pirates itself? Or are the commanders all from the real Whitebeard Pirates from the beginning? P.N. amanuts

O: Ok, I'll explain a little about the Whitebeard Pirates. First, captain Whitebeard and the 16 commanders. All 16 commanders, despite numbers and ages have the same rank. All the same. Whitebeard Pirates are just split in 16 groups and the division number does not indicate strength. The 43 ally pirate ships are not any part of the Whitebeard Pirates and are usually all just scattered everywhere living their own little lives. Yet they are loyal to Whitebeard, and help him in desperate times. They are like that. In Ace's case, the Spade Pirates were destroyed, and all the members joined the Whitebeard Pirates, so he was able to become a commander.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_59 (the 2nd one)
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#25
D: About the Whitebeard Pirates, if there are pirates from the "Whitebeard ally groups", is there a possibility of one of them becoming a commander of the real Whitebeard Pirates itself? Or are the commanders all from the real Whitebeard Pirates from the beginning? P.N. amanuts

O: Ok, I'll explain a little about the Whitebeard Pirates. First, captain Whitebeard and the 16 commanders. All 16 commanders, despite numbers and ages have the same rank. All the same. Whitebeard Pirates are just split in 16 groups and the division number does not indicate strength. The 43 ally pirate ships are not any part of the Whitebeard Pirates and are usually all just scattered everywhere living their own little lives. Yet they are loyal to Whitebeard, and help him in desperate times. They are like that. In Ace's case, the Spade Pirates were destroyed, and all the members joined the Whitebeard Pirates, so he was able to become a commander.
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_59 (the 2nd one)
Yup only oden was brother
 
#34
You're going to ignore Oda direct statement in the SBS where he says division numbers have nothing to do with strength.
You're also going to ignore the N2 cover where Oda drew Shiryu for some reason and not Burgess.
The saddest part of all this is that you are hyping Jinbei opponent...
He did this to with king to
Hyped up zoro s fight:suresure:
 
#39
People who say division heiarchy doesnt mean anything....are in denial.

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- Marco.... the strongest was first commander
- Ace....the second strongest was second commander
- Jozu....the third strongest was third commander

We dont know how strong Thatch is....but the next strongest is Vista....and he's 5th commander. How the hell does the 5 strongest commanders magically end up at start of the commander order ? Why not have them spread out between the 15 positions ? Hmmm...

People say BBPs mirror the WBPs....yet create mental gymnastics and say division heiarchy doesnt mean anything, when in fact it meant something for WBPs.
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We know the BBPs division heiarchy has nothing to do with the order they joined in. We also know it must have something to do with strength or else Shiryu wouldnt be as high even though he isnt trustworthy.
Because the WBPs originally only had 5 divisions, so the ones that hold those positions are the veterans of the crew
 
#40
This is exactly how the king wank threads went...

Thanks for hyping Jinbei's potential opponent I guess
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Also I don't get why Burgess being the strongest in the crew would mean Sanji will fight him anyway... Oda wont have a potential final or among final oppponents for Sanji to be stronger than Zoro's...

This is a lose lose debate really, either Jinbei fights Burgess or if he's right and Burgess is the strongest then Zoro fights him still, not Sanji...
 
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