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EkkoLoJinx

"What could have been..."
It's because you said something like Soul Society Arc wasn't good. Now we all know that was one of the best arc in anime history. So if you can concede, than I will change my vote.
i will die a hero then lol

maybe i shud rewatch it

i didnt say it wasnt good tho. just said it was ok

too much plot holes ruin the arc for me

6/10 or 6.5/10 is fair

7 is a stretch. maybe if one of the ryoka died i'd push it to 7
 

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The End and the Beginning
It did, go back and reread that entire early wagon. You attempting to brush it off as something that had merit when it really didn't and it was only based on the dude joking and then making it seem like him not replying does not look good. Not sure why you are hung up about facts on how things went down? you trying to paint it as something that is not early on and now trying to include ultra into the argument.

Early on Ultra vote on pero was oppurtunistic, he was gonig around asking players to vote for pero without much context, AL even questioned him what for. It was only later that voting pero had merit.

Which brings me back on how you grabbed my post when I clearly stated early wagon of his push and now make it seem like something that was not. For what exactly? what you think you are getting out of this?
Why exactly was Ultra's vote on Pero "opportunistic"? It was a direction that proferred discussion, which by default maks it better than almost any other wagon at that point. I'm including Ultra because *you* included Ultra, you can't just take him out now that it's not a convenient argument for you.

I'll speak plain - I don't think you can, justifiably, raise any real concern with an early Pero wagon given how it was formed, especially given the lack of anything else substantial around it.
 

EkkoLoJinx

"What could have been..."
1. You don't seem to get shonen

2. As far as Bleach plot armor goes the Soul Society Arc is relatively low on it in comparison to what comes after
im probably due for a rewatch cuz i havent seen that ac since like 10 years

i used to enjoy shonen before, now i moved more to senien and stuff

shonon plot armor started getting too boring and repetitive

i think mob psycho and JJK r the only fun ones these days
 
Bleach is just DBZ with ghosts and swords. Cool character designs, cool stylistically, and the anime has pretty good music.

The *plot* is absolutely nothing to write home about, fighting over which arc is better is like debating over which fast food chain you prefer
 
Why exactly was Ultra's vote on Pero "opportunistic"? It was a direction that proferred discussion, which by default maks it better than almost any other wagon at that point. I'm including Ultra because *you* included Ultra, you can't just take him out now that it's not a convenient argument for you.

I'll speak plain - I don't think you can, justifiably, raise any real concern with an early Pero wagon given how it was formed, especially given the lack of anything else substantial around it.

Ultra gets prop for creating discussion by pressuring people sure, but that does not take away the fact that the early vote itself was oppurtunistic and escape goat for the slaughter. Also, no you brought up his name after you stated that the original reason for the early wagon was due to his interactions and flower lynch, being indecisive and hedged his bets. Which then I call you out on it that it was not the case and that I remember you specifically voting him over the joke. You even quoted him for it. You then come ahead and deflect the argument by saying 'Ultra and other people did it as well'. Deflecting.

Plus, I find it weird how you have issue with me stating my opinion about your approach regarding his slot early on and now making it seem like I have some 'real concern' with it. It's merely a thing I took note of and will be taken into consideration later on when more information pops up.
 
Ultra gets prop for creating discussion by pressuring people sure, but that does not take away the fact that the early vote itself was oppurtunistic and escape goat for the slaughter. Also, no you brought up his name after you stated that the original reason for the early wagon was due to his interactions and flower lynch, being indecisive and hedged his bets. Which then I call you out on it that it was not the case and that I remember you specifically voting him over the joke. You even quoted him for it. You then come ahead and deflect the argument by saying 'Ultra and other people did it as well'. Deflecting.

Plus, I find it weird how you have issue with me stating my opinion about your approach regarding his slot early on and now making it seem like I have some 'real concern' with it. It's merely a thing I took note of and will be taken into consideration later on when more information pops up.
You claim I used Pero as an escape goat...to escape what, exactly?
 
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