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Mr. Reloaded

Professional backstabber
This day phase will end sooner than expected, it will end 1 hour and 17 minutes from now. I hope everyone is okay with this.


1- @Pot Goblin
2- @Dr_Professor83
3- @Michelle Marechiyo Omaeda/ Died Night 1
4- @Flower Replaced by @hime
5- @Lord Melkor
6- @Underworld Broker Nemu Kurotsuchi/ Killed Day 2
7- @Apollo
8- @Charlie Mayuri Kurotsuchi/ Died Night 2
9- @Dr. Watson Replaced by @Hayumi Modkilled Day 3
10- @TheAncientCenturion
11- @Xlaw
12- @MUUGEN
13- @Kerkovian
14- @T-Pein™
15- @MonochromeYoru
16- @MangoSenpai
17- @Yo Tan Wa
18- @Peroroncino
19- @Kobe
20- @AL sama
21- @Rottkins Jindabo Ikkanzaka/ Died Night 2
22- @Psylocke
23- @Sallucion
24- @~UwU~
25- @Lindltaylor
26- @Mr. Reloaded
27- @Reborn
28- @Adam 🍎 Inoue Orihime/ Lynched Day 2
29- @Ratchet
30- @Mashiro Blue
31- @Kiku
32- @Ekkologix
33- @Ultra
34- @SoulKiller Nanao Ise/ Lynched Day 1
35- @Destroya
All good!
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Town not having any ability to verify the legitimacy of the flip aside from Charlie's census which we never got tells us one of the following:

1 - the flips can be trusted
2 - the game was designed with the expectation that we'd get to confirm fake flips from Charlie's role, and with us no longer getting that information we are one step into losing by default anyway
3 - the townies with these abilities are too lazy or incompetent to use them

1 can be dismissed because charlie's passive and wording really only makes sense where information we have seen prior isn't fully reliable, 2 I'd like to dismiss but I can't deny that there is a very good chance any ability for the town to win plummeted with his loss which would make the passive valuable, I would have a big issue with this post game but that doesn't help now. 3 seems plausible but who knows. The alternative is 4 in that flips can't be trusted and we don't have a way to check them.
 
Town not having any ability to verify the legitimacy of the flip aside from Charlie's census which we never got tells us one of the following:

1 - the flips can be trusted
2 - the game was designed with the expectation that we'd get to confirm fake flips from Charlie's role, and with us no longer getting that information we are one step into losing by default anyway
3 - the townies with these abilities are too lazy or incompetent to use them

1 can be dismissed because charlie's passive and wording really only makes sense where information we have seen prior isn't fully reliable, 2 I'd like to dismiss but I can't deny that there is a very good chance any ability for the town to win plummeted with his loss which would make the passive valuable, I would have a big issue with this post game but that doesn't help now. 3 seems plausible but who knows. The alternative is 4 in that flips can't be trusted and we don't have a way to check them.
So what is your point?
 
What's the opinion on Michelle? Them scum reading Reborn cause he came forward and said he was the one who RB'd them looks sus. Wasn't Michelle a wagon before? So reborn could be justified in RBing them right?
Being a wagon doesn't justify a role crush.
What kind of reasoning is that?
Scum using role crush on me because I suspected their power wolf player Muugen makes sense for me because they could imagine I can use my role to attack or target him and expose him as scum.
I accused Muugen of the role crush, and Reborn came happy saying he did it, I see it as a defence for a mate.
It's bold scum play and the reward is in town trusting they would do that as town.
Oh Reborn rolecrushed Michelle apparently
 

Emil

Certified Memelord
Ultra/Pot should never be lynched or shot by Town.
Al should never be my ched or shot by Town.
Lind/Sallu and Ekko/Psychic need to have one flip for the other to earn the above, but generally should be competent enough for their vouches to be acceptable.
ekko/psychic didnt receive the same "should not be lynched or shot by town" treatment the other mechanically vouched or IC tier players did, except well.. lind/sallu

ur interested in seeing one of us flip. thats okay. i am aware nothing clears us 100% as town. recon u wont get a reason to justify it anyway. will i say u r just like muugen? no. im glad u agree nothing is 100% cleared, and that includes you. you don't see my role so all i can say is ur assumptions are lacking full picture

the side reasoning, or side "shade", that i said in thread earlier was only partial confirmation bias that tells me maybe u r indeed a serial or u r a townie now but know that u become serial/indie later. i mean how wud u react to ur kills failing as a serial. wud it be a different reaction? if u r a serial i imagine u wud be about done with the game anyway because no way u r winning from this position, so you *atleast trying* probably implies u r not one
 

Mashiro Blue

𝓦𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝓾𝓹𝓸𝓷 𝓪 𝓼𝓱𝓸𝓸𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓰 𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓻 ✰
This day phase will end sooner than expected, it will end 1 hour and 17 minutes from now. I hope everyone is okay with this.


1- @Pot Goblin
2- @Dr_Professor83
3- @Michelle Marechiyo Omaeda/ Died Night 1
4- @Flower Replaced by @hime
5- @Lord Melkor
6- @Underworld Broker Nemu Kurotsuchi/ Killed Day 2
7- @Apollo
8- @Charlie Mayuri Kurotsuchi/ Died Night 2
9- @Dr. Watson Replaced by @Hayumi Modkilled Day 3
10- @TheAncientCenturion
11- @Xlaw
12- @MUUGEN
13- @Kerkovian
14- @T-Pein™
15- @MonochromeYoru
16- @MangoSenpai
17- @Yo Tan Wa
18- @Peroroncino
19- @Kobe
20- @AL sama
21- @Rottkins Jindabo Ikkanzaka/ Died Night 2
22- @Psylocke
23- @Sallucion
24- @~UwU~
25- @Lindltaylor
26- @Mr. Reloaded
27- @Reborn
28- @Adam 🍎 Inoue Orihime/ Lynched Day 2
29- @Ratchet
30- @Mashiro Blue
31- @Kiku
32- @Ekkologix
33- @Ultra
34- @SoulKiller Nanao Ise/ Lynched Day 1
35- @Destroya
It's fine.

It's not like I'll run out of entertainment lol
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
ekko/psychic didnt receive the same "should not be lynched or shot by town" treatment the other mechanically vouched or IC tier players did, except well.. lind/sallu

ur interested in seeing one of us flip. thats okay. i am aware nothing clears us 100% as town. recon u wont get a reason to justify it anyway. will i say u r just like muugen? no. im glad u agree nothing is 100% cleared, and that includes you. you don't see my role so all i can say is ur assumptions are lacking full picture

the side reasoning, or side "shade", that i said in thread earlier was only partial confirmation bias that tells me maybe u r indeed a serial or u r a townie now but know that u become serial/indie later. i mean how wud u react to ur kills failing as a serial. wud it be a different reaction? if u r a serial i imagine u wud be about done with the game anyway because no way u r winning from this position, so you *atleast trying* probably implies u r not one
Sigh.

I said you/Psychic will need one of you to flip town to earn the same tier of "never lynch or shoot this slot" as the others. That does not equate to me saying "we should flip one of Ekko or Psychic". It means that your voucher should be considered fine for the time being, but don't completely take you both off the table until there is more to prove your alignment, in this case one such example would be one of you flipping town. Next.
 
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