Do you want this phase and those onward to be majority lynch?

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  • No

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  • We want Plurality with hammer option.

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So after a quick iso of Tyki, there really isn't a ton there, but I feel like he has more of a newbie approach to things and seems uninformed. He went after Pot-sama and Red Night because he knew they were town and seemed genuinely confused by them not being the way to go. His read actually haven't been bad and I feel like he's been trying to solve in his own way. The only post that truly stood out as being a post made through a town lens is the following:

I don't know but Naomi sound for me like a town given that Naomi was literally the aim from RedDragon.
Tyki stopped Alexis from going after Naomi because Red Night had tunneling Naomi. If Tyki is wolf, why even make this post? Could have just let Alexis make a fool of himself for his suspicion of Naomi. It also seems like a genuine post.

Here is Tyki's claim as well.

I hope I don´t do anything wrong since claim a character is something(was forbidden in the german games I played in the past) i didn´t do before:

I'm Grimmjow
- I used Pesquisa Night 3

- I used Resureccion Day 2

-I used Gran Rey Cero Night 4

My targets for Pesquisa and Gran Rey Cero:
Red Night(a reason why I wanted him to be out).
And I was proved right when I was told to let Red Night alone and target Alwaysmind...
Grimmjow is an interesting character to claim but he was definitely helping Soul Society during this arc.
 
So Tiky and Moegara only have one person to guess. They should be ultra killed for this...
Because I technically violated the letter of Alexis' request, I'll add on to this.



TYKI_MIKK has mentioned Pot-sama in a majority of posts, and in this post tried to suggest that Aizen should be ignored. IDK enough about bleach lore to say who he is, but I'm pretty sure he's aligned with Pot-sama in some way, or at the very least wins alongside him.
This two posts could also be in Tyki's favor (depending if Stargate knew wolves). Both of them wanted to put the spotlight on Tyki.
 
So after a quick iso of Tyki, there really isn't a ton there, but I feel like he has more of a newbie approach to things and seems uninformed. He went after Pot-sama and Red Night because he knew they were town and seemed genuinely confused by them not being the way to go. His read actually haven't been bad and I feel like he's been trying to solve in his own way. The only post that truly stood out as being a post made through a town lens is the following:



Tyki stopped Alexis from going after Naomi because Red Night had tunneling Naomi. If Tyki is wolf, why even make this post? Could have just let Alexis make a fool of himself for his suspicion of Naomi. It also seems like a genuine post.

Here is Tyki's claim as well.


Grimmjow is an interesting character to claim but he was definitely helping Soul Society during this arc.
This should say Pot-sama and Red Night were NOT town.
 
This two posts could also be in Tyki's favor (depending if Stargate knew wolves). Both of them wanted to put the spotlight on Tyki.
I keep saying it.
I didn't play Mafia for 2years and I only played it in german forum.

Of course I make mistake, I could sit silence and just vote without going much into detail but I didn't. I try to find the remaining scum and it clear that im a easy target for the scums to build me as lynch victim.

We should go with Ratchet vote.
Taking Ratchet down could be the final straw to find another scum.
 
I keep saying it.
I didn't play Mafia for 2years and I only played it in german forum.

Of course I make mistake, I could sit silence and just vote without going much into detail but I didn't. I try to find the remaining scum and it clear that im a easy target for the scums to build me as lynch victim.

We should go with Ratchet vote.
Taking Ratchet down could be the final straw to find another scum.
Well we only need to find one more wolf; we know Orca and Red Night are the remaining wolves.

Other than Ratchet being the only other choice for a vote, have you seen anything from him that makes you think he's a wolf?
 
Orca before being outed is mostly a bust as well. He did, though, have a random vote on Ratchet at one point. It felt more like a possible attempt at distancing than actual suspicion.
 
Why do you think I'm indie? And why do Ultra and zenox get townreads and Psylocke a scumread while none of them has posted?

To answer your earlier question who I'd want to vote today:

Red Night - linking Naomi and Reloaded both as scum for no apparent reason
Gad - Just shitposting, doing nothing at all
Charlie - Unlike in the games before were his posts were actually helpful I still have the impression this time he's just contributing for the sake of blending in, it's not a strong reason but a feeling I have
MUUGEN - As scum he tends to make sure to fulfill the posting requirement for his role not to get modblocked, despite saying he has no motivation and mostly spiting Ekko. This is exactly what he's been doing this time again.


Rest is all pretty null, could toss Alwaysmind, Tyki, Moegara and UwU into the pile of useless people.
Worst's read on me is really bad but I think he may be really just unable to follow the logic of great mafia players.

Don't know why Stargate is already defending me like he did, maybe has info on my role? Not up for lynching him.
Townleans: Naomi, Reloaded, Luka, Melkor, maybe York, maybe Ratchet

Scumreads: Ekko, Stargate, MUUGEN, Charlie, maybe AM (if we assume Worst was right about one of his suspects), maybe Mango (if we assume there has to be scum among those five players)

Rest is all null to me still, some are too inactive or haven't written anything of value so far.

Gimme your reads too please.
Why are we going for Cryo and Ratchet now specifically?

Have to say Ratchet was pretty lackluster so far and that guy should probably start drinking coffee instead of stealing tea but he didn't look scummy to me.
Unfortunately Destroya and you likely town, then Ratchet, Melkor and either Alexis or Reloaded. Think Luka's census might be true and to me that is indicating that he might be town, don't care what Destroya thinks about this.
Here are some reads from Crowned that interested me. In her first reads liar, it was only town names in the wolf pile. Then she includes other names that have flipped town. The only name included in all the townies she said were wolf, Tyki.

In the second reads liar, besides Stargate (who were aren't sure if they knew the wolf team), every wolf read of hers flipped town. Interesting to see how she has both York and Ratchet as maybe town.

When Ratchet's name popped up as a suspect (I can't remember what day it was), Crowned made a post defending Ratchet.

Last reads she had said I was town, but also followed that with Melkor and Ratchet being town as well. The progression she had on her Ratchet read felt a bit off.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Here are some reads from Crowned that interested me. In her first reads liar, it was only town names in the wolf pile. Then she includes other names that have flipped town. The only name included in all the townies she said were wolf, Tyki.

In the second reads liar, besides Stargate (who were aren't sure if they knew the wolf team), every wolf read of hers flipped town. Interesting to see how she has both York and Ratchet as maybe town.

When Ratchet's name popped up as a suspect (I can't remember what day it was), Crowned made a post defending Ratchet.

Last reads she had said I was town, but also followed that with Melkor and Ratchet being town as well. The progression she had on her Ratchet read felt a bit off.
So, not to WIFOM here (too much), but I need to point out that this sort of progression makes no sense as scum. If I'm going to be dead weight or carried through the game then I'm going to tell my mates to look good off of me. Not really any point in defending my slot because if I get vigged or whatever they will just look terrible.

Scum are going to mostly be reading me as town. Because if I get killed they'll look better for it and if they read me scum, they risk looking bad for it. The key part here is what they *really* do when it's looking like I could be lynched. Seeing as you've just read her ISO, you'll have a better idea of this than me, but I'm willing to bet that when I was the leading wagon or whatever, she wasn't doing all that much to deter from it. She positioned against it but wouldn't have really *pushed* against it.

I don't really mind just taking the lynch. There should be enough room to be wrong. I am however concerned that the PoE seems so set in stone - I think the clears are at least due re-examining, whether you do that after my flip or before. If you do lynch me, all I will say is that the default should not be "lynch Tyki", but to really go over every slot that has been cleared and ask "is this *really* clearing?"
 
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