Questions & Mysteries Boa’s emotions for Luffy were transferred to S-Snake. Meaning her DNA was obtained AFTER SHE MET LUFFY
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Huh? But boa didn’t randomly just fall for Luffy in Amazon lily… specific things had to happen for her to start liking him… Whereas here Luffy doesn’t do anything and S-snake already likes him
Also Edison at the start of the arc specifically says “memories and experience are stored in lineage factors”…
Also Edison at the start of the arc specifically says “memories and experience are stored in lineage factors”…
This tbh.
Hancock's love to Luffy is in a type where you're attracted to someone because of what they do (Luffy having CoC & punching CD), not a type where you just happen to love his face (like when you're fall in love with someone at first sight).
This is why Hancock is antagonistic to Luffy at first, and not just straight up having heart eyes for him, ala Sanji to any beauties.
It is wrong for Snake to fell in love with him due to Hancock, so it's definitely because of Luffy's innate charm / his charisma 😎
This is the explanation, proven by how many beauties in every arc got charmed by Luffy, when Zoro is more handsome/manly.
Hancock's love to Luffy is in a type where you're attracted to someone because of what they do (Luffy having CoC & punching CD), not a type where you just happen to love his face (like when you're fall in love with someone at first sight).
This is why Hancock is antagonistic to Luffy at first, and not just straight up having heart eyes for him, ala Sanji to any beauties.
It is wrong for Snake to fell in love with him due to Hancock, so it's definitely because of Luffy's innate charm / his charisma 😎
This is the explanation, proven by how many beauties in every arc got charmed by Luffy, when Zoro is more handsome/manly.
No it doesn't say anything about when the DNA was obtained. All it says is that it has same genetic predisposition.
Genes affect one's behavior. She has the same epigenetics, or behavioral genetics.
https://www.nature.com/scitable/kno...d-genetic-makeup-influence-behavior-13907840/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3052688/
Genes affect one's behavior. She has the same epigenetics, or behavioral genetics.
https://www.nature.com/scitable/kno...d-genetic-makeup-influence-behavior-13907840/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3052688/
What ImmalvanoM here is saying actually makes the most sense given the context of Jinbei's commentary, if Jinbei's words is taken as an isert from Oda himself. I suspsect Oda will be questioned about this in SBS.
If the Seraphim was made with DNA extracted from Hancock before Hancock encountered Luffy, the answer is NOT "Well Hancock's genes are predisposed towards Luffy" - that actually makes no sense, or else real Hancock would have immediately fallen for Luffy without needing him to "prove himself", (Similar to Sanji with ladies) without any major interaction or display of noble character - but instead Luffy's character speaks to Hancock's heart through said displays, i.e. trying to save Hancock's underlings.
For Seraphim copy to be having a crush on Luffy would make no sense IF it its character is going 1:1 off of Hancock because it simply did not have enough opportunity to witness Luffy's character traits in action to come to a conclusion of affection.
However, here's where it gets confusing. The reality is this. Seraphim Hancock or S-Snake is not 1:1 Hancock. In other words, as far as we know S-Snake never suffered under perverted/horny male Celestial Dragons or the same level of exposure to negative elements associated with unbridled or unrefined masculinity, which is exactly what caused Hancock to be so moved by the image of a male character with more pure/self-sacrificing motives more impactful, namely Luffy.
There is another layer of complexity here. The moral framework of S-Snake. If you look closely, you notice that Luffy, though he looked concerned and stressed, asked S-Snake (addressed her as Hancock) to undo her petrification - he did not *demand* or *command* it.
It seems unlikely that S-Snake would fall in love with Luffy's character traits as Boa did since the amount of interaction and events witnessed are drastically less - asking for her to do something instead of demanding it is nice, sure... but its not really all that impressive. But if it has indeed happened, the most likely explanation is that the S-Snake was used to having her will stomped on by being ordered around by superiors (authority chip hierarchy) or commanded to do things - so having Luffy instead "ask" her immediately struck those affection or desire nerves, if you will. She feels Luffy "Actually cares" compared to the others, and that makes him stand out as a sort of romantic referent, as it were.
If the Seraphim was made with DNA extracted from Hancock before Hancock encountered Luffy, the answer is NOT "Well Hancock's genes are predisposed towards Luffy" - that actually makes no sense, or else real Hancock would have immediately fallen for Luffy without needing him to "prove himself", (Similar to Sanji with ladies) without any major interaction or display of noble character - but instead Luffy's character speaks to Hancock's heart through said displays, i.e. trying to save Hancock's underlings.
For Seraphim copy to be having a crush on Luffy would make no sense IF it its character is going 1:1 off of Hancock because it simply did not have enough opportunity to witness Luffy's character traits in action to come to a conclusion of affection.
However, here's where it gets confusing. The reality is this. Seraphim Hancock or S-Snake is not 1:1 Hancock. In other words, as far as we know S-Snake never suffered under perverted/horny male Celestial Dragons or the same level of exposure to negative elements associated with unbridled or unrefined masculinity, which is exactly what caused Hancock to be so moved by the image of a male character with more pure/self-sacrificing motives more impactful, namely Luffy.
There is another layer of complexity here. The moral framework of S-Snake. If you look closely, you notice that Luffy, though he looked concerned and stressed, asked S-Snake (addressed her as Hancock) to undo her petrification - he did not *demand* or *command* it.
It seems unlikely that S-Snake would fall in love with Luffy's character traits as Boa did since the amount of interaction and events witnessed are drastically less - asking for her to do something instead of demanding it is nice, sure... but its not really all that impressive. But if it has indeed happened, the most likely explanation is that the S-Snake was used to having her will stomped on by being ordered around by superiors (authority chip hierarchy) or commanded to do things - so having Luffy instead "ask" her immediately struck those affection or desire nerves, if you will. She feels Luffy "Actually cares" compared to the others, and that makes him stand out as a sort of romantic referent, as it were.
Makes sense the original experiment was on Pacifista that used Kixaru's lineage factor this was before timeskip .
Vegapunk seems to have confided in theory like Judge he can replicate lunarian dna as well. Also King was not really featured back then and oda had to create new enemies since warlord was getting outdated concept.
Vegapunk seems to have confided in theory like Judge he can replicate lunarian dna as well. Also King was not really featured back then and oda had to create new enemies since warlord was getting outdated concept.
Epigenetic characteristics are influenced by stimuli tho? Since it's more of a gene expression through different pattern of methylation, nuclear transcriptional factories and other fancy stuff? So if S-Snake's epigenetic is to like Luffy, it means that should be shaped by previous stimulus.
...i dunno why we're even discussing this tho. Be it genetics or epigenetics, what's the point to the story?
...i dunno why we're even discussing this tho. Be it genetics or epigenetics, what's the point to the story?
I 100% agree with you on this one.
This is pretty much the concept they went with for Assassin's Creed, based on a real life theory. Last chapter confirmed memories become part of somebody's genes. It's precisely why cloning a 2 year old Mihawk and cloning current Mihawk would produce very different Sheraphims: one would have the potential to train and become like Mihawk, while the one we got is just "remembering" the techniques and growing into them.
Hancock must have been cloned after meeting Luffy for S-Snake to have feelings for him at first sight.
This is pretty much the concept they went with for Assassin's Creed, based on a real life theory. Last chapter confirmed memories become part of somebody's genes. It's precisely why cloning a 2 year old Mihawk and cloning current Mihawk would produce very different Sheraphims: one would have the potential to train and become like Mihawk, while the one we got is just "remembering" the techniques and growing into them.
Hancock must have been cloned after meeting Luffy for S-Snake to have feelings for him at first sight.
hmm what's the big deal about it ? u can get someone's DNA from their either hair / nails / saliva / blood.
I think it's not a complicated experiment like they did to King to replicate his race.
even more specific about "lineage factor" to copy her DF power, most likely just from blood samples.
it can happen any time after the marineford.
I think it's not a complicated experiment like they did to King to replicate his race.
even more specific about "lineage factor" to copy her DF power, most likely just from blood samples.
it can happen any time after the marineford.
