Character Discussion Borsalino "Yellow Monkey" - The Ultimate Soldier (Strongest Marine?!)

Is he the Ultimate Soldier?

  • AWW HELLLLL YEAAA HE IS

    Votes: 17 27.0%
  • YUHH

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Yea

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • No

    Votes: 40 63.5%
  • I don't fuckin know bruh

    Votes: 4 6.3%

  • Total voters
    63
Just focus on the fanfic of Kizaru having awakening, at least that can be reasoned to be a substantial powerup, not these constantly underwhelming Admiral epithet moves.
Fan fact Is that I agree with you: Awakening would be a substantial power up while the monkey move surely isn't on his own.
What I said Is that Kizaru didn't show even his epithet move. We'll see.
 
but let’s take a look again and see that yes Kuzan is far weaker than even old man Garp that he did in fact need the aid of the other commanders and so much so that if this was a pure 1on1 Kuzan would’ve been hard low-mid diffed as he couldn’t even comprehend old man Garps speed and after two attacks he was already beat and battered.
I will argue with you only one thing. Kuzan didn't need any help. He is easily gets AdvCoC hits without any serious damage, he stood up like it's nothing for him. He is strong enough to win Garp, but one who needed help and suitable moment is YC Shiryu.

I'm 150% sure Kuzan >> Old Garp. Every time Garp punched Kuzan Garp said something like "You are still soft" or "hesitation is making you weak". On top of all Garp is Kuzan's sensei and a person he admire. If you can't understand why Kuzan isn't going all out on Garp then I'm done and I won't argue this any further, it's useless waste of time. Whatever I or anyone else say you'll be opposite. Ignore all of context to keep up with your agenda "Admirals the same lame shit as YC1/YCs"
 
Kizaru obviously has a monkey move

If Akainu, Aokiji and Fujitora all have animal themed moves, then Kizaru has one as well.

lol
Headcanon until further notice
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"Invented" lol.
Somehow It Is not allowed anymore to make predictions on Kizaru based on facts because someone have an agenda.

Anyway, Fuji move Is not mean to damage others but to pull them, and saying Akainu move Is mid because someone partially dodge it once Is so lol.
But I agree, it's quite telling when one has to come with this level of takes lol.
Are you okay?
Fuji attack is meant to damage people
He simply couldn't damage Sabo and Luffy
 
Are you okay?
Fuji attack is meant to damage people
He simply couldn't damage Sabo and Luffy
I am, are you?

No, Fuji Attack Is literally a thrust. Is not meant to damage anyone above fodder level unless Is done using the floor as surface, like It was with Law, and then Is used to make the person unable to move.

I know here we jump on anything, but still. There are a lot more things you could use to dehype Fujitora if you want.
 
Garp is still the strongest Marine. He beat up Kuzan + Blackbeard Pirates, and had to be cheap shot to be defeated. Kuzan vs Akainu was an extreme diff fight so I can’t see Akainu as stronger then Garp ether unless we are told he got a power up somehow. Kizaru, GB, and Fujitora while impressive in their showings haven’t really shown anything to be above Kuzan and Akainu.
 
Garp is still the strongest Marine. He beat up Kuzan + Blackbeard Pirates, and had to be cheap shot to be defeated. Kuzan vs Akainu was an extreme diff fight so I can’t see Akainu as stronger then Garp ether unless we are told he got a power up somehow. Kizaru, GB, and Fujitora while impressive in their showings haven’t really shown anything to be above Kuzan and Akainu.
Garp literally didn't KO or do serious injury to any of them, and that's despite most BBP being nerfed by the environment, no one except Kuzan attempting more than one hit and even Kuzan himself not being focused on the fight and more concerned about Garp's own well being.

They essentially low diffed him while being nerfed and their main hitter underperforming.
 
We know that current era is the peak of history. There are Luffy and BB who will be stronger than Roger and WB. Zoro is going to surpass Ray and Mihawk. It's reasonable for Marines to have the strongest in history as well. Akainu defeated Kuzan who is Garp's protege.
I agree with you, but Kuzan is not the one to carry on Garp’s will, it’s Coby. Coby is the Garp of this generation and will be the strongest marine in history after Garp.
 

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I will argue with you only one thing. Kuzan didn't need any help. He is easily gets AdvCoC hits without any serious damage, he stood up like it's nothing for him. He is strong enough to win Garp, but one who needed help and suitable moment is YC Shiryu.

I'm 150% sure Kuzan >> Old Garp. Every time Garp punched Kuzan Garp said something like "You are still soft" or "hesitation is making you weak". On top of all Garp is Kuzan's sensei and a person he admire. If you can't understand why Kuzan isn't going all out on Garp then I'm done and I won't argue this any further, it's useless waste of time. Whatever I or anyone else say you'll be opposite. Ignore all of context to keep up with your agenda "Admirals the same lame shit as YC1/YCs"
he never got hit by AdvCoC punch, he was thrown by Garp like a ragdoll and buried underground by Blue Hole but he was never gets hit by a punch like Pizarro got hit by Galaxy Divide that’s an AdvCoC hit, he got hit by a nameless punch in their clash and a base punch when he got speed blitzed the second time around.

this excuse if not going all out is getting tired.

admirals aren’t as good as they were hyped up to be and that is the truth.

I still hold them to YC1 cause no admiral is low diffing any YC1.
 
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