General & Others Bounty Discussion and Speculation

[JazzMazz]

about this personally i think for established long term pirates (basically not new gens) we have some bounty level like
Below 100m
100m+
300m+
500m+
1b+
1.5b+
i personally think oda will give bounty to character in this range base on how strong they are i don't think there is that much of gap between character that are in same range (for example 100 to 299m - 300 to 499m) if they are more dangerous they will get higer end of the said range but not surpassing that range
normally in manga they make a big deal foe this bounty specially when luffy reached them for example they didn't make that much of big deal of 400m bounty of luffy compare to 100m-300m-500m and 1.5B

yep it's a very high bounty

True. However, I think that oda has been focusing less and less on bounties as hype tool, as evidenced by him not revealing the bounties for the top executives of the beast pirates Tobi Roppo or King in story.

 

[Mohammad211]

True. However, I think that oda has been focusing less and less on bounties as hype tool, as evidenced by him not revealing the bounties for the top executives of the beast pirates Tobi Roppo or King in story.

bro they are making money out of this honestly if VC didn't have new informations they wouldn't sell that well i heard that previous pack sell was one of highest among all sets it seems that revealing marco bounty worked pretty well my cousin had a hard time getting one after few days

 

[Electricmastro]

Huh, so these guys got their bounties up to that much.

 

[JazzMazz]

Huh, so these guys got their bounties up to that much.

Okay. We now have an idea of what the final bounty for the beast pirates is.

GENERAL
Kaido = 4.6111 billion

CALAMITIES
King = 1.39 billion
Queen = 1.32 billion
Jack = 1 billion
SUBTOTAL = 3.710 billion

FLYING SIX
Who's Who = 546 million
Black Maria = 480 million
Sasaki = 472 million
Ulti = 400 million
Page One = 290 million
SUBTOTAL = 2.188 billion

HEADLINERS/OTHER
Apoo = 350 million
Hawkins = 320 million
SUBTOTAL =670 million

TOTAL CREW BOUNTY = 11.179 billion
(Next up is making a cool graph showing the hierarchy of the crew with their bounty posters)

 

[Human D Luffy]

Huh, so these guys got their bounties up to that much.

how legit is this?

 

[JazzMazz]

how legit is this?

Its from Scotch.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Its from Scotch.

sorry don't know what that jargon means

 

[JazzMazz]

sorry don't know what that jargon means

He is the guy we typically get leaks and stuff from regarding this.

 

[Human D Luffy]

He is the guy we typically get leaks and stuff from regarding this.

oh dang. it is legit then.
damn King got a higher bounty than Marco, them sanji fans with the 1.33B prophecy gonna be BIG MAD

 

[Electricmastro]

With that, these would have to be the highest revealed bounties so far:

Gol D. Roger - ฿5,564,800,000 - Captain; Pirate King
Edward Newgate - ฿5,046,000,000 - Captain; Emperor
Kaidou - ฿4,611,100,000 - Governor-General; Emperor
Charlotte Linlin - ฿4,388,000,000 - Captain; Emperor
Shanks - ฿4,048,900,000 - Chief; Emperor
Marshall D. Teach - ฿2,247,600,000 - Commodore; Emperor; Warlord
Monkey D. Luffy - ฿1,500,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
King - ฿1,390,000,000 - All-Star
Marco - ฿1,374,000,000 - Commander
Queen - ฿1,320,000,000 - All-Star
Charlotte Katakuri - ฿1,057,000,000 - Commander
Jack - ฿1,000,000,000 - All-Star; Captain
Charlotte Smoothie - ฿932,000,000 - Commander
Charlotte Cracker - ฿860,000,000 - Commander
Charlotte Perospero - ฿700,000,000 - Officer
Sabo - ฿602,000,000 - Chief of Staff
Charlotte Snack - ฿600,000,000 - Commander
Little Oars Jr. - ฿550,000,000 - Captain
Portgas D. Ace - ฿550,000,000 - Captain; Commander; Super Rookie
Who's-Who - ฿546,000,000 - Captain; Flying Six
Chinjao - ฿542,000,000 - Commodore
Izou - ฿510,000,000 - Commander
Trafalgar D. Water Law - ฿500,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie; Warlord
Black Maria - ฿480,000,000 - Flying Six
Edward Weevil - ฿480,000,000 (frozen) - Warlord
Sasaki - ฿472,000,000 - Captain; Flying Six
Eustass Kid - ฿470,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Belo Betty - ฿457,000,000 - Commander
Jinbe - ฿438,000,000 - Captain; Warlord
Tamago - ฿429,000,000 - Knight-ranked Combatant
Karasu - ฿400,000,000 - Commander
Ulti - ฿400,000,000 - Flying Six
Pedro - ฿382,000,000 - Captain
Capone Bege - ฿350,000,000 - Captain; Rook-ranked Combatant; Super Rookie
Scratchmen Apoo - ฿350,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Donquixote Doflamingo - ฿340,000,000 (frozen) - Captain; Warlord
Cavendish - ฿330,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Pekoms - ฿330,000,000 - ? Combatant
Vinsmoke Sanji - ฿330,000,000 - ?
Basil Hawkins - ฿320,000,000 - Captain; Headliner; Super Rookie
Gecko Moria - ฿320,000,000 (frozen) - Captain; Warlord
Roronoa Zoro - ฿320,000,000 - ? Combatant; Super Rookie
Lindbergh - ฿316,000,000 - Commander
Caesar Clown - ฿300,000,000 - ?
Charlotte Daifuku - ฿300,000,000 - Officer
Charlotte Oven - ฿300,000,000 - Officer
Bartholomew Kuma - ฿296,000,000 (frozen) - Officer; Warlord
Morley - ฿293,000,000 - Commander
Page One - ฿290,000,000 - Flying Six

 

[Rootbeer]

Thanks god its not 1.33 B.... Still 1.39 B is very low for King, i was hoping for more.. Like 70 Million between Queen and him, its the difference between Smoothie and Cracker basicly.. Maybe King's not rampaging like Queen and Jack, that's why his Bounty is not higher than that..

546 Million WsW is no joke, he way stronger than Sasaki..

Even if Ulti got second lowest Tobiroppo with 400 Million, its my personal belief that she's the 2nd strongest Tobiroppo now more than ever.. She got such a huge Bounty and she's only 22, there's no way she's not number 2 Tobiroppo..

Damn Page One is so disappointing.. This also reinforce my thought that Page One doesn't have Haki..

 

[Human D Luffy]

Thanks god its not 1.33 B.... Still 1.39 B is very low for King, i was hoping for more.. Like 70 Million between Queen and him, its the difference between Smoothie and Cracker basicly.. Maybe King's not rampaging like Queen and Jack, that's why his Bounty is not higher than that..

546 Million WsW is no joke, he way stronger than Sasaki..

Even if Ulti got second lowest Tobiroppo with 400 Million, its my personal belief that she's the 2nd strongest Tobiroppo now more than ever.. She got such a huge Bounty and she's only 22, there's no way she's not number 2 Tobiroppo..

Damn Page One is so disappointing.. This also reinforce my thought that Page One doesn't have Haki..

I envisioned him go as high as 1.5B, but honestly having a bounty > Marco and beating Marco is already super hype for King.

 

[Rootbeer]

oh dang. it is legit then.
damn King got a higher bounty than Marco, them sanji fans with the 1.33B prophecy gonna be BIG MAD

They were pretty close though.. But ya

 

[JazzMazz]

With that, these would have to be the highest revealed bounties so far:

Gol D. Roger - ฿5,564,800,000 - Captain; Pirate King
Edward Newgate - ฿5,046,000,000 - Captain; Emperor
Kaido - ฿4,611,100,000 - Governor-General; Emperor
Charlotte Linlin - ฿4,388,000,000 - Captain; Emperor
Shanks - ฿4,048,900,000 - Chief; Emperor
Marshall D. Teach - ฿2,247,600,000 - Commodore; Emperor; Warlord
Monkey D. Luffy - ฿1,500,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
King - ฿1,390,000,000 - All-Star
Marco - ฿1,374,000,000 - Commander
Queen - ฿1,320,000,000 - All-Star
Charlotte Katakuri - ฿1,057,000,000 - Commander
Jack - ฿1,000,000,000 - All-Star; Captain
Charlotte Smoothie - ฿932,000,000 - Commander
Charlotte Cracker - ฿860,000,000 - Commander
Charlotte Perospero - ฿700,000,000 - Officer
Sabo - ฿602,000,000 - Chief of Staff
Charlotte Snack - ฿600,000,000 - Commander
Little Oars Jr. - ฿550,000,000 - Captain
Portgas D. Ace - ฿550,000,000 - Captain; Commander; Super Rookie
Who's-Who - ฿546,000,000 - Captain; Flying Six
Chinjao - ฿542,000,000 - Commodore
Izou - ฿510,000,000 - Commander
Trafalgar D. Water Law - ฿500,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie; Warlord
Black Maria - ฿480,000,000 - Flying Six
Edward Weevil - ฿480,000,000 (frozen) - Warlord
Sasaki - ฿472,000,000 - Captain; Flying Six
Eustass Kid - ฿470,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Belo Betty - ฿457,000,000 - Commander
Jinbe - ฿438,000,000 - Captain; Warlord
Tamago - ฿429,000,000 - Knight-ranked Combatant
Karasu - ฿400,000,000 - Commander
Ulti - ฿400,000,000 - Flying Six
Pedro - ฿382,000,000 - Captain
Capone Bege - ฿350,000,000 - Captain; Rook-ranked Combatant; Super Rookie
Scratchmen Apoo - ฿350,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Donquixote Doflamingo - ฿340,000,000 (frozen) - Captain; Warlord
Cavendish - ฿330,000,000 - Captain; Super Rookie
Pekoms - ฿330,000,000 - ? Combatant
Vinsmoke Sanji - ฿330,000,000 - ?
Basil Hawkins - ฿320,000,000 - Captain; Headliner; Super Rookie
Gecko Moria - ฿320,000,000 (frozen) - Captain; Warlord
Roronoa Zoro - ฿320,000,000 - ? Combatant; Super Rookie
Lindbergh - ฿316,000,000 - Commander
Caesar Clown - ฿300,000,000 - ?
Charlotte Daifuku - ฿300,000,000 - Officer
Charlotte Oven - ฿300,000,000 - Officer
Bartholomew Kuma - ฿296,000,000 (frozen) - Officer; Warlord
Morley - ฿293,000,000 - Commander
Page One - ฿290,000,000 - Flying Six

These the top 50 bounties?

 

[Rootbeer]

I envisioned him go as high as 1.5B, but honestly having a bounty > Marco and beating Marco is already super hype for King.

Yes he's higher than Marco and Queen, everything is alright.. :cheers:

 

[Electricmastro]

These the top 50 bounties?

That we know of and have been revealed. Rayleigh and Mihawk's bounties haven't been revealed for example.

 

[Human D Luffy]

They were pretty close though.. But ya

They are pretty close but Oda intentionally put Marco between them, so that tells you there is a gap there.
IMO if Marco wasn't between them, then their bounty are very similar. But putting Marco between them basically implies a difference.

 

[Rootbeer]

They are pretty close but Oda intentionally put Marco between them, so that tells you there is a gap there.
IMO if Marco wasn't between them, then their bounty are very similar. But putting Marco between them basically implies a difference.

Good point, which leads me to think Queen and Jack's Bounty are more inflated than King, though that's pure speculation..

 

[Human D Luffy]

There is a pattern between top YC which Katakuri is not part of.

The difference between King, Marco, and Queen's bounty is not that big so I think Beckmann might have something like 1.420 or shit like that.

Yes judging by how stingy Oda is in terms of increasing bounty above the 1B mark, I think YC1/VC Ben beckman most likely doesn't have a bounty > $1.5B (Luffy the unofficial Yonko). Before Marco and King's bounties were revealed, I saw him as a 2B candidate.

Based on the pattern of King and Marco's bounty, it seems like YC1 cannot go pass the imaginary boundary (1.5B set by Luffy) between a YC and a Yonko.

 

[JazzMazz]

Lets discount captains and compare the crews of Big Mum and Kaido as we know them thus far.

This is an analysis of subordinates.
BEAST PIRATES(Excluding Drake, who we don't know the bounty of yet)
CALAMITIES
King = 1.39 billion
Queen = 1.32 billion
Jack = 1 billion
SUBTOTAL = 3.710 billion

FLYING SIX
Who's Who = 546 million
Black Maria = 480 million
Sasaki = 472 million
Ulti = 400 million
Page One = 290 million
SUBTOTAL = 2.188 billion

HEADLINERS/OTHER
Apoo = 350 million
Hawkins = 320 million
SUBTOTAL = 670 million

TOTAL VALUE OF SUBORDINATES = 6.568 billion

Drake = 222 million (that we know of)

TOTAL VALUE OF SUBORDINATES(with Drake) = 6790 billion

BIG MUM PIRATES(This excludes the Fire tank pirates and Sun Pirates, but will include Tamago and Bobbin, will have a small caveat to include those crews as well)

Sweet Commanders
Katakuri = 1.057 billion
Smoothie = 932 million
Cracker = 860 million
SUBTOTAL = 2.849 billion

Executives
Perospero = 700 million
Snack = 600 million
Oven = 300 million
Daifuku = 300 million
MONT-d'Or = 120 million
SUBTOTAL = 2.020 billion

Officers
Tamago = 429 million
Pekoms = 330 million
Bobbin = 105.5 million
SUBTOTAL = 864.5 million

TOTAL VALUE OF SUBORDINATES =5.7335 billion

Firetank Pirates
Bege = 300 million(at time of being part of big mum pirates)
Vito = 95 million
Gotti = 90 million
SUBTOTAL = 485 million

Sun Pirates
Jinbei = 438 million
SUBTOTAL = 438 million

TOTAL VALUE OF SUBORDINATES(Plus Firetank and Sun Pirates) = 6.6565 billion

Overall, I think its fair to say that the Big Mum and the Beast Pirates seemingly have comparably similar crew bounties based on subordinates, with the Beast Pirates seeming to edge it out by an unknown amount at the current moment.

Generally it seems that just tallying the bounties of the emperor crews, we end up with something in the range of 5-6 billion in total. I think we may see the beast pirates total subordinate bounty go over 7 billion depending on what Drakes bounty is, as well as if there are any other bounties.

For that to be the case, Drake's bounty needs to be over 432 million.