Bounty updates are overdue now because of how much has happened since Wano.
From the WG perspective:
Strawhat will have freed Loki, saved Elbaph, allied with its new leadership, and subordinates proving they can threaten their immortality.
Not only are we about to see a significant spike for Luffy, Zoro and Sanji especially, we're going to see increases for the other Emperors also.
Cross Guild have been hunting down Marines. Don't be surprised if Moriah joins their ranks.
Red Hair took out the Kid Pirates.
Blackbeard took out the Heart Pirates.
The race for the One Piece is heating up and they know it.
From the WG perspective:
Strawhat will have freed Loki, saved Elbaph, allied with its new leadership, and subordinates proving they can threaten their immortality.
Not only are we about to see a significant spike for Luffy, Zoro and Sanji especially, we're going to see increases for the other Emperors also.
Cross Guild have been hunting down Marines. Don't be surprised if Moriah joins their ranks.
Red Hair took out the Kid Pirates.
Blackbeard took out the Heart Pirates.
The race for the One Piece is heating up and they know it.
After Elbag
- Luffy, 4.56b: reason: Killed Vegapunk
- Zoro, 2B; killed Dorry
- Sanji, 2B; killed brogy
- (Not beat) Luffy - Shamrock, Loki - Gunko(imu)
- (Kill) Zoro Sanji - Dorry Brogy (1.8 B)
- Jimbei: 1.3B
- (doesnt have attribute close to Hancock-Croc, only Marco feats)
- Robin: 1.025B (Awakened: perfect flower / bunshin)
- Usopp: 700m
- Franky: 694m
- Brook: 683m or ???? (his past does appear)
- Nami: 466m
- Chopper: 1m
- based on Teach party beaten Marco + WB remnants & Shanks has shown more active with 3 acts: Aramaki, Bartolomeo, Kid. He isnt gonna viewed as a laidback 4.089b otoko
Teach: 4.96m- distinguish himself with 3B rookie Law & Garp's Possesion to deal with WG. Somehow because of this: Dragon Bounty shows up above all of the Current Yonkou
Buggy: 4.085mSomehow, CG have certain news
Teach is final villain material.
And he will not be younku lvl same for his crew.
If king was almost 1.4 , and zolo soon will have another raise after elbaf 2b or 3b
Shiryou will be higher
And always 2nd are special
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Base that and base this doesn't work here puck chan , cuz this gen gonna surpass everygen.
Shiryou will be higher than prime rayliegh
And he will not be younku lvl same for his crew.
If king was almost 1.4 , and zolo soon will have another raise after elbaf 2b or 3b
Shiryou will be higher
And always 2nd are special
....
Base that and base this doesn't work here puck chan , cuz this gen gonna surpass everygen.
Shiryou will be higher than prime rayliegh
There is absolutely zero chance that Zoro gets a bounty of 3bil post Elbaf. Loki has no bearing on Zoro’s bounty irregardless of whether he joins or not so best to just forget about Loki’s 2.6bil.
On Teach I don’t discount him being final villain material but even if that were the case there is no reality in which Shiryu gets a bounty of 3bil imo. Subordinate bounties are usually a small fraction of their captain. For first commanders it is typically around 30% of their captain’s bounty. This is also a recurring pattern for Zoro in relation to Luffy. Though Zoro’s typically hovers between 30~60%.
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
So even if Teach’s bounty was 5,960,000,000 30% of that is just 1,788,000,000. I do however think Oda will give Teach’s no.2 and no.3 bounties in the 2bil range to set them apart from other Yonko commanders though so I can see Shiryu getting a 40% ratio of Teach’s bounty but even that will only be 2,384,000,00 which is in the low 2bils.
On Teach I don’t discount him being final villain material but even if that were the case there is no reality in which Shiryu gets a bounty of 3bil imo. Subordinate bounties are usually a small fraction of their captain. For first commanders it is typically around 30% of their captain’s bounty. This is also a recurring pattern for Zoro in relation to Luffy. Though Zoro’s typically hovers between 30~60%.
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
So even if Teach’s bounty was 5,960,000,000 30% of that is just 1,788,000,000. I do however think Oda will give Teach’s no.2 and no.3 bounties in the 2bil range to set them apart from other Yonko commanders though so I can see Shiryu getting a 40% ratio of Teach’s bounty but even that will only be 2,384,000,00 which is in the low 2bils.
Cross Guild bounties are irrelevant.
They're funded by and reflect the interests of the criminal underworld funding Cross Guild.
They have no bearing whatsoever on the calculus by which the World Government establishes the threat someone poses to the interest of the World Government. They also have much deeper pockets.
Shanks and Blackbeard will both get increases in bounties for defeating a 3bn pirates and jacking their shit. We will get bounties for both of their crews.
Aokiji could easily have a 4bn bounty. Beckmann or Shiryuu will have the second highest bounty.
They're funded by and reflect the interests of the criminal underworld funding Cross Guild.
They have no bearing whatsoever on the calculus by which the World Government establishes the threat someone poses to the interest of the World Government. They also have much deeper pockets.
Shanks and Blackbeard will both get increases in bounties for defeating a 3bn pirates and jacking their shit. We will get bounties for both of their crews.
Aokiji could easily have a 4bn bounty. Beckmann or Shiryuu will have the second highest bounty.
Don’t think I’ve said anything that contradicts your take on Aokiji’s bounty though I completely disagree with the notion that cross guild bounties are irrelevant or have no bearing on actual WG bounties. That’d be counter-intuitive and I doubt Oda’s that wasteful. Bounties typically exist to help visualize the threat level of the individual in question and cross guild is a creative way for Oda to do it with the marines. Moreover there are striking similarities btw both bounty structures.
Pattern 1:
Strongest Pirates have bounties in the 5bil range
Strongest Marine (Fleet Admiral) has a bounty of 5bil
Pattern 2:
Highest Bounty ratio of Strongest Subordinate to Captain (I.e Zoro/Luffy high range -> 320,000/500,000) is about 60% which is the same as the Admirals (Strongest subordinates) in relation to the Fleet Admiral.
So they are definitely related.
Pattern 1:
Strongest Pirates have bounties in the 5bil range
Strongest Marine (Fleet Admiral) has a bounty of 5bil
Pattern 2:
Highest Bounty ratio of Strongest Subordinate to Captain (I.e Zoro/Luffy high range -> 320,000/500,000) is about 60% which is the same as the Admirals (Strongest subordinates) in relation to the Fleet Admiral.
So they are definitely related.
Lets forget about loki existence now ,
If zolo got raise after elbaf it will be definitely 2b cuz lower than that it's not appealing anymore jumping from 1.111 to 1.8 or 1.9 doesn't have weight of actual increase unlike 2b , I will even say that he will jump to 3b cuz he jumped from 1×× to 3xx even though luffy was 500 ?! REMEMBER dressrosa bountie ?!
So he if luffy become 5b after elbaf which is valid since he didnt even got what he deserved in wano + egghead
It's not far fetched to say zolo will be 3b similar to dressrosa.
Cuz this pattern (
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
) is not the absolute pattern.
...
So its up to oda either he follow what u said or even bring something new lol or maybe there's no increase at all only for luffy
Also u may say that the max is 5.5b as pk
But don't think so since luffy will surpass them roger stopped at being pk luffy will go beyond same for his crew.
If zolo got raise after elbaf it will be definitely 2b cuz lower than that it's not appealing anymore jumping from 1.111 to 1.8 or 1.9 doesn't have weight of actual increase unlike 2b , I will even say that he will jump to 3b cuz he jumped from 1×× to 3xx even though luffy was 500 ?! REMEMBER dressrosa bountie ?!
So he if luffy become 5b after elbaf which is valid since he didnt even got what he deserved in wano + egghead
It's not far fetched to say zolo will be 3b similar to dressrosa.
Cuz this pattern (
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
) is not the absolute pattern.
...
So its up to oda either he follow what u said or even bring something new lol or maybe there's no increase at all only for luffy
Also u may say that the max is 5.5b as pk
But don't think so since luffy will surpass them roger stopped at being pk luffy will go beyond same for his crew.
Personally I still think a bounty just under 2 is appealing as it is still higher than the average elite yonko commander.
Even more so when you realize that no non captains with the exception of Croc have a bounty that high and even that is coz of cross guild’s actions.
Reason I don’t think Zoro or Sanji hit 2bil just yet is coz Oda has to establish the BB pirates as a bigger threat than the SHs prior to their encounter and the way Oda typically does that is through bounties. You could argue that Zoro gets a bounty of 2bil and Shiryu a bounty of 3bil but the latter is never going to happen imo.
I agree with you there on the 5bil /3bil ting but I don’t think Luffy gets to 5bil just yet.
*Already given my extensive thoughts on that in my prior posts.
With regard to max bounties, I never said max is 5.5bil. Im also not against either Teach or Luffy surpassing that figure hence why I used a bounty of 5,960,000,000 for Teach as an example when we were debating Shiryu’s potential bounty.
Even more so when you realize that no non captains with the exception of Croc have a bounty that high and even that is coz of cross guild’s actions.
Reason I don’t think Zoro or Sanji hit 2bil just yet is coz Oda has to establish the BB pirates as a bigger threat than the SHs prior to their encounter and the way Oda typically does that is through bounties. You could argue that Zoro gets a bounty of 2bil and Shiryu a bounty of 3bil but the latter is never going to happen imo.
I will even say that he will jump to 3b cuz he jumped from 1×× to 3xx even though luffy was 500 ?! REMEMBER dressrosa bountie ?!
So he if luffy become 5b after elbaf which is valid since he didnt even got what he deserved in wano + egghead
It's not far fetched to say zolo will be 3b similar to dressrosa.
Cuz this pattern (
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
) is not the absolute pattern.
...
So its up to oda either he follow what u said or even bring something new lol or maybe there's no increase at all only for luffy
Also u may say that the max is 5.5b as pk
But don't think so since luffy will surpass them roger stopped at being pk luffy will go beyond same for his crew.
So he if luffy become 5b after elbaf which is valid since he didnt even got what he deserved in wano + egghead
It's not far fetched to say zolo will be 3b similar to dressrosa.
Cuz this pattern (
1,111,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Wano
120,000,000 / 3,000,000,000 - Post Enies Lobby
) is not the absolute pattern.
...
So its up to oda either he follow what u said or even bring something new lol or maybe there's no increase at all only for luffy
Also u may say that the max is 5.5b as pk
But don't think so since luffy will surpass them roger stopped at being pk luffy will go beyond same for his crew.
*Already given my extensive thoughts on that in my prior posts.
With regard to max bounties, I never said max is 5.5bil. Im also not against either Teach or Luffy surpassing that figure hence why I used a bounty of 5,960,000,000 for Teach as an example when we were debating Shiryu’s potential bounty.
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