So do you also believe Blackbeard didn’t defeat law? There’s no panel of that.
How about Doffy and law? Doffy and Sanji?
Did Big Mom really defeat Yonji and Niji?
1) When did Kizaru got blown away?
2) Luffy was still in Gear 5 after Lucci was feeling his consciousness slipping, while he wasn't against Kizaru
3) It was explicitly stated that he is reaching his limit and then that he is at his limit later, while this was never acknowledged against Lucci
4) Awakekend Zoans have great RECOVERY, which is very different from Kizaru who wasn't that hurt in the first place.
5) Luffy was landing attacks Lucci at will, he just didn't use his abilities to increase AP until the last hit, while he couldn't land a hit on Kizaru until the end
6) He used ACoC on Kizaru, but never on Lucci
where’s the panel of Blackbeard defeating him? This is just a panel of Law sprawled out on the ground and Blackbeard still able to fight… the exact same thing as Luffy and Kizaru.
where’s the panel of Blackbeard defeating him? This is just a panel of Law sprawled out on the ground and Blackbeard still able to fight… the exact same thing as Luffy and Kizaru.
When have you ever known me to care about Luffy losing?
Luffy loses all the time and the Luffy fandom doesn’t care.
Kaido beat him in Wano, to death. He lost to characters weaker than admirals. So if he lost to Kizaru what would drive you to think I couldn’t admit it?
When have you ever known me to care about Luffy losing?
Luffy loses all the time and the Luffy fandom doesn’t care.
Kaido beat him in Wano, to death. He lost to characters weaker than admirals. So if he lost to Kizaru what would drive you to think I couldn’t admit it?
Because he had to kill Vegapunk. Imagine if he only focused on fighting Luffy and maintaining distance so Luffy could not reach him while he is focused on Vegapunk?
Well they aren’t but if they were what makes you think I’d care? I don’t like Luffy because I think he’s the strongest that doesn’t matter to me because we already know EOS he will accomplish everything. Also I’m not an admiral hater Sakazuki is one of my favorite characters. So your still wrong.
Well they aren’t but if they were what makes you think I’d care? I don’t like Luffy because I think he’s the strongest that doesn’t matter to me because we already know EOS he will accomplish everything. Also I’m not an admiral hater Sakazuki is one of my favorite characters. So you’re still wrong.
Dude youre an avid Admiral downplayer and has said on multiple occasions they can’t hold a candle to emperors and now we have one definitively defeating one in the manga.
Dude youre an avid Admiral downplayer and has said on multiple occasions they can’t hold a candle to emperors and now we have one definitively defeating one in the manga.
Kizaru beat Luffy. There’s no way to spin Kizaru fighting Luffy past his limit and Luffy being sprawled out on the ground begging for help while Kizaru was free to move and use his abilities as anything other than a clear loss.
Kizaru beat Luffy. There’s no way to spin Kizaru fighting Luffy past his limit and Luffy being sprawled out on the ground begging for help while Kizaru was free to move and use his abilities as anything other than a clear loss.
Luffy blatantly sandbagged against him though. If you consider that a fair win then fine by me but if you're going to admit that Kizaru was mentally nerfed then you should be able to admit that Luffy was also nerfed in a way
Luffy blatantly sandbagged against him though. If you consider that a fair win then fine by me but if you're going to admit that Kizaru was mentally nerfed then you should be able to admit that Luffy was also nerfed in a way
He didn’t. By Luffys own volition he was serious and after the fight he was depressed that he failed which means he was very seriously trying to succeed.
Luffy never mentioned any sort of nerf what we saw was Luffys limit against Kizaru.
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