Chapter Discussion Can anyone translate what Garp says here?
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I dont think it means that the powers are equal to each other literally. Like i dont think Garp was making 1on1 scenarios in his head. I simply think its meant as a global power representation. The Marine HQ with the admirals being there, plus theoretically having the shichibukai at their disposal, keeps the Yonko in check. The shichibukai and some vice admirals arent exactly standing there on Marine HQ and defending it from an eventual attack at all times, but still, no Yonko is gonna go to a full out war with them (knowing the amount of forces they own, you have to attack with everything you have) and leave themselves exposed to the other Yonko. Likewise, the Marine HQ is not gonna attack Yonko full out, having their hands full with other affairs constantly, and also leaving themselves exposed. Think of Blackbeard. He now has Aokiji as an ally. This alone gives him an advantage over other Yonko, even if there is a high chance Kuzan is gonna backstab. So if you go to war with him, you have to go prepared to deal with Kuzan too. If you go there thinking youll only face the Titanic Captains, its your own fault for getting wiped out
So all Yonko forces vs Marines and shichibukai, i think Yonko would win if you go 1vs1 top to bottom (which is silly as it has no chance of happening), but this system exist simply to keep the powers in check, and the world at peace
So all Yonko forces vs Marines and shichibukai, i think Yonko would win if you go 1vs1 top to bottom (which is silly as it has no chance of happening), but this system exist simply to keep the powers in check, and the world at peace
"That didn't appear in the official releases"
Stephen Paul took over around Chapter 553 for the official printed releases. He still gave his own translations for Chapter 1 to 522 and archived them. What I posted above was his translation.
https://web.archive.org/web/2010031...gascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/onepiece.html
Stephen Paul took over around Chapter 553 for the official printed releases. He still gave his own translations for Chapter 1 to 522 and archived them. What I posted above was his translation.
https://web.archive.org/web/2010031...gascreener.com/stephen/onepiece/onepiece.html
It only goes up to 545. 550 is the one I posted two different translations saying the Warlords could be the deciding factor.
I have also asked other people and they say in context thats precisely what 550 said.
Just saying a massively important chapter for powerscaling, something said by the narrator was poorly translated.
I have also asked other people and they say in context thats precisely what 550 said.
Just saying a massively important chapter for powerscaling, something said by the narrator was poorly translated.
Counterbalancing in world politics doesn't always mean absolute equality. Yonko working together have more high-level fighters on their side than the Marines so of course, they'd win against the marines+Shichibukai if they join their forces. On the other hand, it's dumb to even entertain the idea that one Yonko crew stands a chance in hell against the Marines after witnessing MF.
The official translation was done by Caselman. Stephen Pauls 550 was never put in viz, nor did he translate it himself.
I have asked multiple people about this. They said in context yes, the latter translation is closer.
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I have asked multiple people about this. They said in context yes, the latter translation is closer.
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Raw is right here. In case anyone wants to translate
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Three powers was always intentionally misleading. It is from the perspective of the Masters of Lies World Government after all. I've never seen anyone say that the Shichibukai is equal to the Marines yet won't drop their 3 powers BS which just shows they're trolling. The Yonko aren't a team and already balance each other out. They don't wage war with one another because that would weaken their position for someone/a force like Blackbeard. Marines just need to stay "balanced"/relative in the world by being just as strong as any one of them individually. Even then they failed and needed the Shichibukai to tip the scales. Yonko do not go after the Shichibukai because they don't want to take on the Shichibuka AND the Marines AND THEN be vulnerable to another Yonko.
They fail to mention that the narration box straight up mentions that the warlords could be the deciding factor in the war.
Meaning the WBP are relative to the marines alone.
And then Sengoku straight up admits in 552 they could lose.
That's two pretty massive pieces of evidence if all 4 emperors teamed up their crews would roll the WG over with modest difficulty at worst
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Meaning the WBP are relative to the marines alone.
And then Sengoku straight up admits in 552 they could lose.
That's two pretty massive pieces of evidence if all 4 emperors teamed up their crews would roll the WG over with modest difficulty at worst
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I did not mention a LOT of things which clearly point out Yonko>Admirals. I could have pointed out Garp's comments that even Silvers addition would have been too much or that there were only three emperors at the time of the Shichibukai, or that Garp, Kong, and SenGoku were still in their prime when Kaido was not, etc.
I could write a whole essay but I thought what I said was enough unless I'm dealing with a troll in which case it is a waste of time anyway.
I could write a whole essay but I thought what I said was enough unless I'm dealing with a troll in which case it is a waste of time anyway.
So what is your point then? You cherry-picking manga panels for downplaying the Admirals to fuel your feat fetish? The Yonkou aren't any better (with Big Mom having the WORST portrayal). Kaido got clocked by attacks Cracker could block with ease. Big Mom was clowned by Jimbei twice, treated like the blueberry girl from Charlie And The Chocolate Factory by Robin, had her nose busted by Franky, and admittedly needed Perospero's help to put down Marco.
