Speculations Can Blackbeard beat the marines and become a pirate king?

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

I watched this video from a youtuber called "One Piece Japanese Theory" long back

The video says, there is a big internet community site 2CH in Japan. Someone just dropped a comment in One Piece category in 9th April, 2009. At that point, the strawhat crew was at Sabaody and chatting with Rayleigh.

The post predicted:
- Strawhat crew will be separated then they will meet again before entering new world
- One of the yonko Whitebeard and Ace will die
- After strawhat enter NW, they will fight Doflamingo
- One of the admiral will become FA and another will quite marines

If this is not fake news, all the predictions of those post came true.

That post had 4 more predictions:
1. Another of yonko will die
2. Strawhat pirates will be a big group in the NW
3. Blackbeard will beat the marines
4. Blackbeard will become a pirate king!

Lets assume that this is not fake and these 4 predictions are also going to come true

Can Blackbeard beat the marines?
I dont see any way Blackbeard crew beating the marines altogether. How can he and his crew beat 4 admirals supported by Garp, Sengoku, Tsuru, Momousagi, Chaton etc? Do you see any way this happening? I can see a scenario where the war happens in a different location other than marine heardquarters where part of the marines participate (1-2 admirals) and gets defeated. But can it be called "Blackbeard beat marines"?

Can Blackbeard become a pirate king?
This one is more tricky. Blackbeard needs to fulfill two requirements to be a pirate king:

(1) Conquer the Grand line, i.e., become the strongest

Spoiler: Taken from Hannibal Psyche's post

2. He needs to find One Piece

Spoiler: Again taken from Hannibal Psyche's post

I am confident Blackbeard will become the strongest, i.e. conquer the grand line. Can he find One Piece before Luffy? The strawhats are already ahead in this race, they have 2 Road Poneglyph's data. They are also going to get the 3rd one after Wano. There are speculations that Blackbeard will kidnap Robin to get those info. Nevertheless, we know Blackbeard will find a way to reach Raftel. The point is, most readers, myself included, will hate the idea of Blackbeard getting One Piece before Luffy.

WB was the strongest, still didnt get the title without One Piece. Can Blackbeard somehow be recognised as the pirate king without One Piece? Or will there be two pirate kings in this era, one with One Piece and the other conquering Grand line, ultimately clashing in a final battle?

 

[Dark Hound]

Wasn't that shit debunked a long time ago ?

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Wasn't that shit debunked a long time ago ?

Lets assume this is going to come true. My question is how?

 

[HA001]

This is the yonko saga
Kaido and meme will fall first
Bb will kill shanks
Meet at raftel crew v crew
Luffys king
What they find out at raftel leads into the final war vs navy and wg and im

 

[Dark Hound]

This is the yonko saga
Kaido and meme will fall first
Bb will kill shanks
Meet at raftel crew v crew
Luffys king
What they find out at raftel leads into the final war vs navy and wg and im

Shanks won't die before seeing Luffy

 

[Xione]

He can't in an all out fight.

The only way he can is if he takes them on when the Marines are spread out, leaving the marine HQ to mainly just Sakazuki. Which he would then be able to beat assuming brings in his whole squad.

If this is to happen, it needs to happen when the Marines are dealing with the Warlords and possibly join up in Wano soon.

 

[Shiroyru]

Oda originally intended for EoS BB to be capable of beating 3 Admirals before deciding that this was too much. So he could probably beat 2 Admirals

 

[Finalbeta]

Depends on how many DFs BB could still intake

 

[Shiroyru]

Depends on how many DFs BB could still intake

If BB gets the Dragon DF like people theorize, then he will be OP as hell.

At his full power, he will be a man-dragon hybrid with the power to control earthquakes capable of ravaging the world and to control an all-consuming darkness that pulls everything in.

The Yami can pull people in so that he can punch them with the full power of the Gura, which will be amplified greatly by the Ryu, which also gives him scales to compensate for his currently low durability

I can see this version of Teach soloing 3 Admirals tbh. His 3 DFs would all be stronger than theirs

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Oda originally intended for EoS BB to be capable of beating 3 Admirals

Yami Teach, not eos Teach.


@Bogard I will borrow your scan if you don't mind.

Spoiler

and it says ''maybe''

 

[Finalbeta]

If BB gets the Dragon DF like people theorize, then he will be OP as hell.

At his full power, he will be a man-dragon hybrid with the power to control earthquakes capable of ravaging the world and to control an all-consuming darkness that pulls everything in.

The Yami can pull people in so that he can punch them with the full power of the Gura, which will be amplified greatly by the Ryu, which also gives him scales to compensate for his currently low durability

I can see this version of Teach soloing 3 Admirals tbh. His 3 DFs would all be stronger than theirs

That would be dope but I guess he ll have to be defeated somehow so am not sure

 

[OmegaPsyche]

No.

Akainu + Kizaru > EoS BB
Green Bull = EoS Shilliew, more or less
Fujitora > EoS Sanji's opponent

EoS Coby, EoS Smoker & EoS Drake + vice admirals > rest of EoS BB Pirates

 

[stealthblack]

No way wg force is far superior to any yonkou force.

 

[Garp the Fist]

As he is now I'd say it's very unlikely. It would require the level 6ers to be a lot stronger than most of us think they are. And while there are big links between Blackbeard and Rocks, I very much doubt that extends to Shiryu, Devon and Pizarro being as strong as the prime versions of Whitebeard, Big Mom and Kaido. Which is what I'd say would be needed in a straight fight with the Marines.

What Blackbeard does have is his historical research. If he can find an Ancient Weapon, that's a game changer. With that and his crew, yes, he can challenge the Marines.

 

[Buusatan94]

He can't with his crew alone, which is why I think that he might be seeking an Ancient Weapon or a power just as strong to be able to pose a true threat to the WG and its forces.

 

[Blackbeard]

Well he's trying to piss the marine now :

the marine had to join hands with Roger to stop Rocks and erase him from history due to his crimes. when Blackbeard reaches his prime the marine alone won't be able to stop him not only because he will get the strongest fruit in each class, but also because he will revive a stronger version of Xebec pirates to the seas. we have Silver Axe, Wang Zhi and potentiality other pirates that may join under Blackbeard's flag. as for why would Blackbeard reach Rocks' level of supremacy you can refer to this thread : https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-links-between-rocks-and-teach.1202/

 

[Inspector_Mu]

Shanks won't die before seeing Luffy

He will lol Shanks meeting luffy means luffy needs to return the hat!

Which wont happen unless luffy becomes PK first.
Shamks is getting killed by BB alone or Alliance kidd + Teach , both have issues with Shanks

Post automatically merged: Nov 11, 2019

Well he's trying to piss the marine now :

the marine had to join hands with Roger to stop Rocks and erase him from history due to his crimes. when Blackbeard reaches his prime the marine alone won't be able to stop him not only because he will get the strongest fruit in each class, but also because he will revive a stronger version of Xebec pirates to the seas. we have Silver Axe, Wang Zhi and potentiality other pirates that may join under Blackbeard's flag. as for why would Blackbeard reach Rocks' level of supremacy you can refer to this thread : https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/index.php?threads/the-links-between-rocks-and-teach.1202/

He will get ancient weapon

This will allow Teach to destroy Navy or others if they fight
He might eat a zoan fruit too... which will make him so OP

If Teach doesn't beat Shanks (Kidd does )
Then Teach next big battle is vs Navy , he will beat Greenbull or just many fleets if strong VAs
Or he will fight with Revos again, this time a serious battle.
Or even battle CP

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

As he is now I'd say it's very unlikely. It would require the level 6ers to be a lot stronger than most of us think they are. And while there are big links between Blackbeard and Rocks, I very much doubt that extends to Shiryu, Devon and Pizarro being as strong as the prime versions of Whitebeard, Big Mom and Kaido. Which is what I'd say would be needed in a straight fight with the Marines.

What Blackbeard does have is his historical research. If he can find an Ancient Weapon, that's a game changer. With that and his crew, yes, he can challenge the Marines.

What do you think about the 4th prediction? Any chance of BB getting the pirate king title?

 

[Garp the Fist]

What do you think about the 4th prediction? Any chance of BB getting the pirate king title?

Yeah, I think there's a good chance of it.

Mostly depends on if Blackbeard is the final fight and not Im, which I think is the case. Blackbeard would then need to transcend the Yonko as the biggest threat, and making him Pirate King achieves that (I also reckon he'll get Whitebeard's vacant title as WSM. And the much theorised beating Shanks thing).

Plus there's Rayleigh saying they were too early to get to Raftel and that the Strawhats might get a "different answer." Would make sense for Blackbeard to also get the wrong answer- to what the Will of D really is, another bit of inherited will stuff with it being Rogers and Rocks again.)

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

I Don't believe it. This is obviously mixing in predictions between some events that already happened in the Manga to make it believable. As for the date, it's been 10 years, no one here is testifying these predictions came before that stuff that happened in Manga or, exactly what date. It's not easy to remember when stuff happened evn in past year and 10 years is very long time. Plus these predictions could easily have changed n edited by people as it got regulated more n more arround by fans. So i dont believe it.

Bt BB becoming PK is something i also have been counting as valid possibility for quite some time nw. He has big connections to Xebec, served WB pirates, was close to Shanks in the past. So Might have already found a way to Raftel, bt is simply have been waiting for some key to obtaining One piece that was hinted few chapters back. If not, will find a way to Raftel soon in future.
Since BB isn't your avg Pirate that will follow the rules and obtain the 4 road poneglypps to get to Raftel. Bb isn't that, and never been one in the past to follow such normalised paths. He became Yonkou in his own way, and had a master plan for it. So i think Oda may have already planned some way for Bb reaching Raftel, in similar way. That counts as unexpected plotline, hence is interesting and i would love it if that happens.

As for BB beating Marines, nvr happening. SHs have to beat Marines, Akainu especially and other Admirals. BB isn't stealing antagonists from Luffy or SHs. Admirals are as imp as Yonkou for Luffy /SHs to take down.