General & Others Can Gojo survive Furnace?

[Moegara]

why was it that he had to continually change the conditions for his barrier technique?

What answer are you fishing for? That was a way to win the domain clash. That's the point of saying it was "a path" he took: that the things he did were "optimal" (according to Gege) towards getting a new technique and winning with it, but not optimal if he wasn't going for Mahoraga, and Gojo noticed that.

We saw Sukuna could land slashes on Gojo during that part of the fight, that alone should break the illusion that Gojo is invincible even though infinity is a bitch to deal with.

Admittedly, you could also acknowledge Sukuna didn't take Gojo seriously from the beginning and could have taken a part in this all. He earned his respect through the fight.



Give it some years. Gege obviously wanted to portray Sukuna as ultimately above Gojo, there's no further proof than Gojo's own words when the fight ended. That's why I refer to arguing against that as deepthroating, because both the author's intent and Gojo's opinion are against it.

 

[Master OF Haki]

I think this is the right place for this.

 

[MUUGEN]

What answer are you fishing for? That was a way to win the domain clash. That's the point of saying it was "a path" he took: that the things he did were "optimal" (according to Gege) towards getting a new technique and winning with it, but not optimal if he wasn't going for Mahoraga, and Gojo noticed that.

We saw Sukuna could land slashes on Gojo during that part of the fight, that alone should break the illusion that Gojo is invincible even though infinity is a bitch to deal with.

Admittedly, you could also acknowledge Sukuna didn't take Gojo seriously from the beginning and could have taken a part in this all. He earned his respect through the fight.



Give it some years. Gege obviously wanted to portray Sukuna as ultimately above Gojo, there's no further proof than Gojo's own words when the fight ended. That's why I refer to arguing against that as deepthroating, because both the author's intent and Gojo's opinion are against it.

we've seen infinity be bypassed prior to the domain clash 2 whole arcs before no one has stated hes invincible, thats your own agenda pushing headcannon...

we also saw Gojo was phenomenally better in their exchanges inside of their domains, it was even stated UV>MS

exactly it is an OPINION not FACTS.

glad you admit that we can canonically state that due to fighting GOJO and no one else that Sukuna is/was unable to use Furnace.

 

[MUUGEN]

Admittedly, you could also acknowledge Sukuna didn't take Gojo seriously from the beginning and could have taken a part in this all. He earned his respect through the fight.

& vice versa can be said about Gojo.

that was also canonically proven and showcased unless you "forgot"

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

Serious question: if furnace is a true thermobaric technique, why wasn’t Sukuna killed by it? Sukuna would not be able to avoid the effects of a thermobaric vacuum bomb.

https://www.profolus.com/topics/thermobaric-weapon-explained-how-vacuum-bombs-work/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

According to a separate U.S. Central Intelligence Agency study, "the effect of an FAE explosion within confined spaces is immense. Those near the ignition point are obliterated. Those at the fringe are likely to suffer many internal, and thus invisible injuries, including burst eardrums and crushed inner ear organs, severe concussions, ruptured lungs and internal organs, and possibly blindness."(9) Another Defense Intelligence Agency document speculates that because the "shock and pressure waves cause minimal damage to brain tissue…it is possible that victims of FAEs are not rendered unconscious by the blast, but instead suffer for several seconds or minutes while they suffocate."(10)

 

[L57]

No Gege had to seal it because its useless against Gojo otherwise he wouldn't seal he even gave the explanation to keep up Sukuna choose outer barrier over furnace that alone gives a insight that Gojo can survive

Also Choso got hit by furnace that was detonated for all particulars inside the the domain

If it was useless the it shouldnt have been sealed and used it to show its useless
But no gege decided to seal it bcs its to much for gojo
Gojo barely survived the slashes with rct at 100
A furnace would delete him

 

[kom5]

If it was useless the it shouldnt have been sealed and used it to show its useless
But no gege decided to seal it bcs its to much for gojo
Gojo barely survived the slashes with rct at 100
A furnace would delete him

It was sealed to increase his range to destroy the domain from the outside so Sukuna deliberately choose to attack the domain from the outside even turn off his sure hit to destroy Gojos domain

That alone gives you insight that furnace was not the solution for winning the battle

 

[zenox]

Serious question: if furnace is a true thermobaric technique, why wasn’t Sukuna killed by it? Sukuna would not be able to avoid the effects of a thermobaric vacuum bomb.

https://www.profolus.com/topics/thermobaric-weapon-explained-how-vacuum-bombs-work/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

According to a separate U.S. Central Intelligence Agency study, "the effect of an FAE explosion within confined spaces is immense. Those near the ignition point are obliterated. Those at the fringe are likely to suffer many internal, and thus invisible injuries, including burst eardrums and crushed inner ear organs, severe concussions, ruptured lungs and internal organs, and possibly blindness."(9) Another Defense Intelligence Agency document speculates that because the "shock and pressure waves cause minimal damage to brain tissue…it is possible that victims of FAEs are not rendered unconscious by the blast, but instead suffer for several seconds or minutes while they suffocate."(10)

cause its his technique ?

 

[Ven437]

Serious question: if furnace is a true thermobaric technique, why wasn’t Sukuna killed by it? Sukuna would not be able to avoid the effects of a thermobaric vacuum bomb.

https://www.profolus.com/topics/thermobaric-weapon-explained-how-vacuum-bombs-work/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weapon

According to a separate U.S. Central Intelligence Agency study, "the effect of an FAE explosion within confined spaces is immense. Those near the ignition point are obliterated. Those at the fringe are likely to suffer many internal, and thus invisible injuries, including burst eardrums and crushed inner ear organs, severe concussions, ruptured lungs and internal organs, and possibly blindness."(9) Another Defense Intelligence Agency document speculates that because the "shock and pressure waves cause minimal damage to brain tissue…it is possible that victims of FAEs are not rendered unconscious by the blast, but instead suffer for several seconds or minutes while they suffocate."(10)

Sukuna is protected from his own sure-hit obviously. No sorcerer is surviving a thermobaric explosion let alone a nuke.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

Sukuna is protected from his own sure-hit obviously. No sorcerer is surviving a thermobaric explosion let alone a nuke.

So, plot device or inaccurate translation then? Sukuna’s other signature attacks have focus and follow trajectories. They need a sure-hit. Furnace, a thermobaric attack in a closed space is all-encompassing and lacks focus. Sure-hit is redundant with Furnace. Gege did call it thermobaric, correct? The originator, at the epicenter, is going to get the worst of it by definition of thermobaric explosion. The question is, how does Sukuna survive?

 

[Ven437]

So, plot device or inaccurate translation then? Sukuna’s other signature attacks have focus and follow trajectories. They need a sure-hit. Furnace, a thermobaric attack in a closed space is all-encompassing and lacks focus. Sure-hit is redundant with Furnace. Gege did call it thermobaric, correct? The originator, at the epicenter, is going to get the worst of it by definition of thermobaric explosion. The question is, how does Sukuna survive?

It's his attack inside his Domain. No need for further explanation than that.

On the other hand if someone like Yuji used Kamino on Sukuna then he is not surviving that same thermobaric explosion.

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

It's his attack inside his Domain. No need for further explanation than that.

On the other hand if someone like Yuji used Kamino on Sukuna then he is not surviving that same thermobaric explosion.

Thanks for the reply. I am looking at as simple physics and consistent representation of those physical rules. Sukuna needs to avoid wreckage coming down from his attacks (secondary effects) in his domain correct? If those simple physics rules apply then Sukuna cannot avoid the secondary effects of the heated atmosphere/particles and pressure waves from Furnace within an enclosed domain, even his own.

 

[Ven437]

Thanks for the reply. I am looking at as simple physics and consistent representation of those physical rules. Sukuna needs to avoid wreckage coming down from his attacks (secondary effects) in his domain correct? If those simple physics rules apply then Sukuna cannot avoid the secondary effects of the heated atmosphere/particles and pressure waves from Furnace within an enclosed domain, even his own.

But real physics doesn't apply to a magic show like JJK. or at least it excludes certain bodies. I assume for whatever Jujutsu magic that Sukuna is immune to any and all effects from Kamino cuz it's his own attack inside his own Domain. It's his mental landscape or whatever.

Imagine creating a nuke-like attack but you also get caught in it, that's Yuki Black Hole levels of stupidity right there.

 

[zenox]

sukuna does say that expanding his domain ( which is most likely fuel for fuga )
will kill them all

so even after knowing gojo's full strength , he thinks he can kill his body with the flame arrow