Powers & Abilities Can king of hell mode be done without Enma

King of hell mode


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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#43
Zoro himself said he has no idea what Kaido was saying when he said he used ACoC. He clearly has no idea what he is doing.

Enma is still forcibly extracting Haki from Zoro. That hasn’t changed. Before Zoro was limiting the amount that Enma releases. To prevent exhaustion. Only difference now is that he is doing the opposite by not limiting haki usage. KOH is a result of Enma removing haki from Zoro at large quantity.
No it's not lmfao

Enma has nothing to do with zoros coc.


Koh is zoro releasing both coc and ryou into all his swords at once

He can swap enma for any sword now and still do the same.
 
#45
as you can see only Enma Is the source of that strange haki.

Zoro cannot use his mode without Enma.

You guya don't give credit to Enma like Kaido did.
The "strange" Haki Kaido is referring to is Zoro's excessive CoA output.

Zoro was holding his CoA back in an attempt to prevent Enma from stealing it all. Hence, he needed to release more CoA of which Enma would forcibly draw more than his other swords.

We know exactly what Enma does:
It simply draws out the user's Ryuo by itself and as a result, cuts more than required. It doesn't give you magic Haki or transfer special powers to your other swords.

If you're releasing 40% of your CoA onto each sword, Enma will take 80% for example. That's why Zoro realised he needs to be releasing 100% always onto every sword. There is little difference between a mastered Enma and swords of the same rank - hence why the art on Zoro's attacks changed once he awakened KOH.

Previously, Enma would be the only sword with a strange aura during every attack - that was a sign that it was drawing more CoA than Zoro's other swords. And now every sword is smoking, indicating each sword is being provided with the same amount of CoA, which is 100%. Enma can't draw out more than 100% of your Haki, it's just no one fights using 100% of their Haki because it'll kill them. No one but Oden and now Zoro, whose body will adjust to this technique.

Why do you think Enma and Ame no Habakiri inflicted equal scars on Kaido? Why do you think there's no longer any difference in art style between Enma and Zoro's other swords? Because Enma is not a magic sword. KOH can be done with any weapon.
 
#47
I think most people forget in their mind that "king of hell" is just another name for "Enma"


If you replace "king of hell" with "Enma", it shows just how much dependent Zoro is on Enma:


Zoro is literally a nobody without Enma's magical powers.
It's his whole identity right now.

And thinking that "Enma" has no nothing to do with "Enma mode" is just another braindead ZKKturd cope in thinking that Zoro is about hard work.
 
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HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#49
I think most people forget in their mind that "king of hell" is just another name for "Enma"


If you replace "king of hell" with "Enma", it shows just how much dependent Zoro is on Enma:


Zoro is literally a nobody without Enma's magical powers.
It's his whole identity right now.

And thinking that "Enma" has no nothing to do with "Enma mode" is just another braindead ZKKturd cope in thinking that Zoro is about hard work.
That's irrelevant it's just a name

The whole power is zoro releasing his haki. Which he can do to any swords.
 
#51
The "strange" Haki Kaido is referring to is Zoro's excessive CoA output.
No. Because Enma Is the only highlited sword with that haki and Kaido directly states that haki comes from that sword.

It Is normal. Just like Link needs master sword to injure Ganon a demon, Zoro needs Enma to injure Kaido an Oni.

In fact Oda told us Zoro no different from Link.


Enma: the only sword that could Scar Kaido.

Master sword: the only sword that can harm Ganon.

Coincidence? Of course not.
Give Enma its credit.
 
#55
No. Because Enma Is the only highlited sword with that haki and Kaido directly states that haki comes from that sword.
Obviously Enma is the only highlighted sword with that Haki, I just told you it draws out more Haki than the user intended. It doesn't give you magic powers; any Haki Enma draws out is Haki that the user already has. If Zoro's only inputting 50% to his other swords and Enma is forcibly drawing 90% then obviously you'd say Enma is the source of the stronger Haki.
It Is normal. Just like Link needs master sword to injure Ganon a demon, Zoro needs Enma to injure Kaido an Oni.

In fact Oda told us Zoro no different from Link.


Enma: the only sword that could Scar Kaido.

Master sword: the only sword that can harm Ganon.

Coincidence? Of course not.
Give Enma its credit.
*Needed, Zoro needed Enma to scar Kaido. He doesn't need it anymore, as indicated by smoke and black lightning on all three swords. Until you show me the panel stating Enma can transfer its magical powers to other swords, I'd rather stick with what the art is clearly depicting.

What is KOH? High-release CoA + ACoC, that's all. Are you seriously saying Zoro can't use 100% of his CoA without Enma? Which makes no sense because it's him using 100% that pleases Enma in the first place?

And if that were the case then only Enma would be smoking and have lightning no? Tell me specifically which part of KOH Enma is required for.
 
#59
No where is it ever shown as a power up.
A power up doesn't do what enma did mid king fight and almost got him killed.
G4 and awakening are PUs or not? What does it do to Luffy if he doesn’t finish fast mid fight? There are PUs that have side effects so yeah power up clearly aren’t all the same either need training to make a person much stronger or the type like RS. Enma is put in high regard and was made to be special for a reason. Definitely not for Ztard to act like it’s a downgrade.
 
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