Fist < Sword. Noway he can block the shit even killer,law had sword they are not even trying. i dont think luffy is strong enough to block haki with small ryoru
Still require strength to match the clash, unless you are saying Luffys adv CoC vastly outstrips Kaido's by a large degree to counteract Kaido's strength + his adv CoC if he was suffering from a raw physical strength disadvantage.
Luffy played around and ran with a giant ball of gold in skypeia, Zoro's lifting feat in the arc immediately prior was to slowly handle a much lighter hollow building.
Luffy split W7 with a show of brute force, while Oda gave Zoro the feat of cutting a chimney, far less impressive strength wise.
4000vs 2200
Luffy is a brawler, the grandson of the best "strongman" feat character Garp, he is stronger than his subordinate in raw strength, do you think Zoro has stronger base punches than Luffy?
Stopped a ranged attack for a split second and had his body destroyed despite being teleported, vs fought on level with Kaido for 30 minutes, cringe comparison.
You don't understand. Luffy's physical strength. is not above Zoro's physical strength.
Luffy lifting those blocks in Udon gives us a good example of his base physical strength. Anything we see beyond that is because of DF. Luffy created G3 and G4 to increase this AP because his physical strength wasn't enough.
Luffy increases his size with G3. That increase in mass increases his strength and AP. Luffy said it's like a giant hand/arm.
G4 focues on increasing AP through compression. He compresses his own rubber body within himself and releases that energy to increase AP. Luffy does increase his size some in Boundman.
Zoro's swords don't increase or enhance his physical strength. He uses his physical strength through his sword. During Dressrosa Zoro's strength allowed him to lift up a mountain size golem.
Zoro blocked a combination attack from Kaido and Big Mom. Then scarred Kaido while severely injured.
Luffy stopped Kaido for 30+ minutes, that is more impactful than anything Zoro has done.
Zero damage to Kaido aside from a tiny wound over his tattoo that isn't visible and hasn't impeded him at all after zoan regen, vs consistent internal damage that Luffy is dealing.
The fact that he let his captain get eaten (he was under Zoro's guard and Zoro viewed this as HIS mistake) after Luffy saved all of the SNs from Kaido and Big Mom using G4 gattling for shock and awe is a disgrace to Zoro and the other SNs for not reciprocating all the time that Luffy bought them to recover.
Fist < Sword. Noway he can block the shit even killer,law had sword they are not even trying. i dont think luffy is strong enough to block haki with small ryoru
You don't understand. Luffy's physical strength. is not above Zoro's physical strength.
Luffy lifting those blocks in Udon gives us a good example of his base physical strength. Anything we see beyond that is because of DF. Luffy created G3 and G4 to increase this AP because his physical strength wasn't enough.
Luffy increases his size with G3. That increase in mass increases his strength and AP. Luffy said it's like a giant hand/arm.
G4 focues on increasing AP through compression. He compresses his own rubber body within himself and releases that energy to increase AP. Luffy does increase his size some in Boundman.
Zoro's swords don't increase or enhance his physical strength. He uses his physical strength through his sword. During Dressrosa Zoro's strength allowed him to lift up a mountain size golem.
Zoro blocked a combination attack from Kaido and Big Mom. Then scarred Kaido while severely injured.
No you "don't understand", and haven't debunked any of my points above, instead ignoring them and writing your own nonsense.
Debate my points before trying to add your own.
No you "don't understand", and haven't debunked any of my points above, instead ignoring them and writing your own nonsense.
Debate my points before trying to add your own.
I did counter your post. You fail to understand you are talking about strength during pre-time skip and before Luffy showed off G2/G3. I'm talking about strength afterwards and currently. That's why I took the time to explain Luffy's gears and the purpose behind them.
Luffy stopped Kaido for 30+ minutes, that is more impactful than anything Zoro has done.
Zero damage to Kaido aside from a tiny wound over his tattoo that isn't visible and hasn't impeded him at all after zoan regen, vs consistent internal damage that Luffy is dealing.
The fact that he let his captain get eaten (he was under Zoro's guard and Zoro viewed this as HIS mistake) after Luffy saved all of the SNs from Kaido and Big Mom using G4 gattling for shock and awe is a disgrace to Zoro and the other SNs for not reciprocating all the time that Luffy bought them to recover.
I did counter your post. You fail to understand you are talking about strength during pre-time skip and before Luffy showed off G2/G3. I'm talking about strength afterwards and currently.
Sweeping it under the carpet as pre-skip implies that Zoro has magically had a massive growth rate and allows you to conveniently ignore 600 chapters of evidence, to be replaced with conjecture and non feats.
Despite matching with Killer being the pinacle of his post-skip power before Enma training.
Don't waste my time if you are going to play dirty games.
30 mins of occupying Kaido so he doesn't kill everyone isn't nothing you illiterate cur.
Zoro blamed himself for letting go of Luffy due to his carelessness, this is in the fucking dialogue.
You fall unconscious, a fireman carries you out of a burning building only to drop you onto a pile of glass due to his clumsiness, oops that's your fault!
Sweeping it under the carpet as pre-skip implies that Zoro has magically had a massive growth rate and allows you to conveniently ignore 600 chapters of evidence, to be replaced with conjecture and non feats.
Despite matching with Killer being the pinacle of his post-skip power before Enma training.
Don't waste my time if you are going to play dirty games.
Sweeping it under the carpet as pre-skip implies that Zoro has magically had a massive growth rate and allows you to conveniently ignore 600 chapters of evidence, to be replaced with conjecture and non feats.
Despite matching with Killer being the pinacle of his post-skip power before Enma training.
Don't waste my time if you are going to play dirty games.
30 mins of occupying Kaido so he doesn't kill everyone isn't nothing you illiterate cur.
Zoro blamed himself for letting go of Luffy due to his carelessness, this is in the fucking dialogue.
You fall unconscious, a fireman carries you out of a burning building only to drop you onto a pile of glass due to his clumsiness, oops that's your fault!
He didn't stop kaido killing anyone. What's stopping kaido killing everyone now ? Why didn't kaido kill anyone after he beat the scabbards why did he sit and drink ?
Irrelevant. He needed saving cause he wasted all his energy.
False. He does have bones. and using Haki would break them if hard enough. But alas no go.
He isn't rubber nor made of rubber, He has properties of Rubber. There's a difference.
Lying again as usual. Zoro destroyed killer
His vc outright says he gave him an OVERWHELMING defeat.
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He didn't stop kaido killing anyone. What's stopping kaido killing everyone now ? Why didn't kaido kill anyone after he beat the scabbards why did he sit and drink ?
Irrelevant. He needed saving cause he wasted all his energy.
He needed to steal his weapon and go 3vs1 to beat killer, and he was knocked out afterwards.
Yeah he beat killer, but he went pretty hard to do so.
He stopped Kaido for 30 minutes.
Nothing is stopping Kaido now, until Yamato comes up.
CH997 after beating the scabbards he sent Onigashima in the air to start killing people CH999 he is talking with Big Mom, planning to kill everyone apart from Robin and waiting for Luffy to quickly come to them.
Nice to just claim irrelevant, don't bother replying if you are going to be so asinine.
What is blunt force resistance, and how does haki overcome blunt force resistance- two questions you need to think about and ponder, so you understand yes someone with haki can break his bones.
Because Luffys job is to beat Kaido, not drain his haki down and risk his combat performance.
And he didn't have adv CoC to do it in the more efficient method.
More physical strength compared to someone matching Kaido's hybrid physical strength for 30 minutes in base?
The dude that split a city in base while Zoro cut a chimney? Lol get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Sweeping it under the carpet as pre-skip implies that Zoro has magically had a massive growth rate and allows you to conveniently ignore 600 chapters of evidence, to be replaced with conjecture and non feats.
Despite matching with Killer being the pinacle of his post-skip power before Enma training.
Don't waste my time if you are going to play dirty games.
There was nothing magical about that. Magical is what you call Luffy's growth all the time.
I'm talking about Zoro's growth after the cp9 arc to post ts.
Zoro was never matched by Killer. That is BS you and others like to claim in an attempt to downplay Zoro's strength. Killer matched Zoro in CQC only when using 2 swords and none name attacks. Meaning, he wasn't using his 1,2, or 2 sword style. The second he used a sword style attack, in that case his 3 sword style attack with a scythe he blitzed in oneshot Killer.
Luffy lifting those blocks in Udon gives us a good example of his base physical strength. Anything we see beyond that is because of DF. Luffy created G3 and G4 to increase this AP because his physical strength wasn't enough.
Luffy's physical strength is higher than Zoro's. When both were stuck during Water 7 Luffy could release himself through physical force alone while Zoro needed his sword as he couldn't do it alone.
Luffy's physical strength is higher than Zoro's. When both were stuck during Water 7 Luffy could release himself through physical force alone while Zoro needed his sword as he couldn't do it alone.
Zoro couldnt even bust out of chimney without his swords, Luffy busted 2 buildings apart just by pushing... luffy is ahead of Zoro. And that's just pre time skip.
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