General & Others Can people make an argument how Jack/Queen/Jozu above Dressrosa Boundman without using Cracker?

[Kiiro]

Because boundmans AP couldn’t even handle a near dead Doffy you’re expecting it to take out Jack who fought people with stronger haki than boundman Luffy for 5 days and nights straight? And Queen who has a higher durability and endurance than Jack plus stall powers, or Jozu who has one of the highest Durabilities in the verse?

Any one of these three survives boundman pretty easily

Near death Doffy is tiers above Jack or Cracker.

Besides, how does Imu and Neko have stronger haki? They dont.

By feats, Jack has better endurance than Queen, while Durability Queen should win for sure.

Non of them survive Bound Man which several levels above Gear 3.

Luffy matched an elemental attack of Big Mom with Gear 3 and fire from Sanji. Big Mom attacks with elemental power has been shown to be barely Gear 3+ and she used 2 of them with no haki on Queen which did a lot of damage.

Queen aint surviving Bound Man for a while. Neither is Jack or Jozu.

When Mingo and Katakuri used COA and tried to block, Boundman couldn't fully break their guards. Katakuri took Kong Gun and Rhino Schneider to the face and was just fine. Mingo took Rhino Schneider and Culverin to the face and was fine. As for Boundman's speed, even Mingo could dodge it point blank. Katakuri also saw Boundman coming without FS but wanted to block it due to pride.

I don't know why people assume people like Jozu, Queen and Jack would just stand there and get hit clean without COA.

False, Luffy broke Katakuri's guard while he didnt against Doffy.

Non of them can fly or have the hype that Katakuri or Doffy has. Being awakened, having CoC, etc. Jozu, Jack or Queen dont receive powerscaling from Katakuri or Doflamingo, they are superior.
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Bro, Jozu was having an even fight with Aokiji until he got distracted by WB. Queen is at that level

They (jozu and Queen) would beat DR boundman for sure. I don't know about Jack

@Lee Ba Shou

 

[Loki D. Terror]

Yonkos do fight each other. It isn't a co-incidence that most yonko crew have top 3 commanders who are strongest by far let it be calamities or sweet commanders post snack removal. Same for WBP. Even SH have zoro , sanji , jimbei.

Queen withstood BM's attacks who can overpower boundman. Jack was able to endure zunisha's island level attack.

They can endure one round of G4 no doubt.

 

[Ratatofolk]

Queen did pretty good against Big Mom otherwise. Btw Jozu handling Aokiji just fine before he got distracted is way above anything Cracker has done. Also Kizaru, Aokiji's peer, easily dealing with Egghead G4 which is leagues above Seducing Woods G4.

She got 2 shot by no haki Big Mom which scales below Boundman since Boundman rattled her stronger attack (CoA elbow) lmao.

Jozu got humiliated by Doflamingo. Cracker dominated Boundman who ping ponged Doflamingo

Jozu also lacks ap to destroy 1 single biscuit let's be real his ap is so garbage YC4 Crocodile tanked it casually.

Comparing MF admirals with current admirals is like comparing MF Mihawk with current Mihawk by the time Mihawk fights Zoro. If Zoro gets ragdolled by Mihawk does that mean Vista/Crocodile>Current Zoro when current Zoro.\

We saw the capability of admiral like Akainu can solo all WBP commanders. Aokiji kept up with Akainu shows he also had the capability to solo WBP commanders. He held back a lot vs Jozu

You're taking fodders opinion seriously lmao

Fodders saw literally what happened with their own eyes lmao they are fighters they knew when people get Koed they saw the state Queen was in after 2 no haki Big Mom hit him then they concluded he got Koed lmao so yeah they are much more reliable than you

Same fodder who thought Kid killed big mom because he used iron bars

Need panels of this one which chapter the fodders thought so?

How does it change the fact that Queen was awake and completely fine afterwards?

He still got Koed by no haki attacks lmao which means hakified Big Mom will 1 shot him even harder let alone Boundman

You wanna convince no one on Queen's place getting hit like he did would get damaged?

Doflamingo and Katakuri will tank it they won;t get Koed they endured Boundman that rattled Big Mom stronger attack her CoA elbow

Queen withstood BM's attacks who can overpower boundman. Jack was able to endure zunisha's island level attack.

They can endure one round of G4 no doubt.

Queen got Koed by no haki Big mom that scales below Boundman that rattled her elbow CoA

Boundman 1 shot Queen

 

[Julius]

This dude is placing Jack in the same league as Queen, when Jack calls King and Queen "big brothers"

Blud really doesn't know what he is talking about

 

[Loki D. Terror]

She got 2 shot by no haki Big Mom which scales below Boundman since Boundman rattled her stronger attack (CoA elbow) lmao.

Jozu got humiliated by Doflamingo. Cracker dominated Boundman who ping ponged Doflamingo

Jozu also lacks ap to destroy 1 single biscuit let's be real his ap is so garbage YC4 Crocodile tanked it casually.

Comparing MF admirals with current admirals is like comparing MF Mihawk with current Mihawk by the time Mihawk fights Zoro. If Zoro gets ragdolled by Mihawk does that mean Vista/Crocodile>Current Zoro when current Zoro.\

We saw the capability of admiral like Akainu can solo all WBP commanders. Aokiji kept up with Akainu shows he also had the capability to solo WBP commanders. He held back a lot vs Jozu


Fodders saw literally what happened with their own eyes lmao they are fighters they knew when people get Koed they saw the state Queen was in after 2 no haki Big Mom hit him then they concluded he got Koed lmao so yeah they are much more reliable than you


Need panels of this one which chapter the fodders thought so?


He still got Koed by no haki attacks lmao which means hakified Big Mom will 1 shot him even harder let alone Boundman


Doflamingo and Katakuri will tank it they won;t get Koed they endured Boundman that rattled Big Mom stronger attack her CoA elbow


Queen got Koed by no haki Big mom that scales below Boundman that rattled her elbow CoA

Boundman 1 shot Queen

You are a fun troll

 

[Kiiro]

Ah so the classic ABC logic.

Apoo one shotted Luffy. Kaido and BM needed mutiple attacks to knock the same Luffy, and the CPO guy took the same explosion and waa just fine. That's Apoo's AP>>>Hybrid Kaido and BM. CPO guy endurance>>>Luffy's.

Zoro couldn't get pass a bunch of nameless gifters. Jinbe and Sanji were one shotted them left and right. Jinbe and Sanji>>>Zoro.

Once again, Queen didn't get knocked out by BM. Marco's could match BM's punches, and it took a gauntlet of attacks from Marco and Sanji to knock out Queen. By your logic, BM has more and less AP than Sanji at the same time.

Even Apoo could destroy Kizaru’s body. Apoo's attack are just more effective than Kaido's or Big Mom. Beside, it aint the same start losing conscious to really be knocked. As you mention, Queen wasnt reallg knocked just as Luffy, Lucci against Gear 5 or Kizaru vs Gear 5, or Doffy smashed at the flower hill, all those examples were heavy damage where they almost lost conscious thanks to a great hit.

 

[SakazOuki]

Only Udon Luffy and above can hurt Jozu

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Near death Doffy is tiers above Jack or Cracker.

Besides, how does Imu and Neko have stronger haki? They dont.

By feats, Jack has better endurance than Queen, while Durability Queen should win for sure.

Non of them survive Bound Man which several levels above Gear 3.

Luffy matched an elemental attack of Big Mom with Gear 3 and fire from Sanji. Big Mom attacks with elemental power has been shown to be barely Gear 3+ and she used 2 of them with no haki on Queen which did a lot of damage.

Queen aint surviving Bound Man for a while. Neither is Jack or Jozu.



False, Luffy broke Katakuri's guard while he didnt against Doffy.

Non of them can fly or have the hype that Katakuri or Doffy has. Being awakened, having CoC, etc. Jozu, Jack or Queen dont receive powerscaling from Katakuri or Doflamingo, they are superior.
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@Lee Ba Shou

Post GK Doffy is on par with cracker, maybe barely stronger. Still weaker than Jack let alone Queen.

Jack at best has as good as endurance as Queen; but far worse durability.

Inu and Neko are ryou masters who were able to cut Kaido; Dressrosa Luffy has much worst CoA than them not even a contest.

Queen took no damage from big mom as he literally was shown without any marks after that fight. He literally played dead to create a plan to capture her and succeeded.

Anyone of these people easily survive boundman. Boundman was necessary for Ulti cause Gear 3 wouldn’t work on her despite she being way less durable and enduring as jack let alone Queen.

 

[Julius]

Need panels of this one which chapter the fodders thought so?

"They saw what that happened with their own eyes
"

 

[Kiiro]

Why do you have Oda as a clown in your profile?

Dude Big Mom one shot Boundman in WCI like it was utter trash

Queen didn’t got one shotted, he was awaken right after the move. And that was an extremy pissed off Big Mom using insane amount of physical strength

You wanna tell me this guy looks like he can't keep fighting? LoL

Why do you have Oda as a clown in your profile?

 

[Ratatofolk]

"They saw what that happened with their own eyes
"

They were right she got crushed she took heavy damage they are speculating whether Big Mom survived or not.

Different with fodders outright saying Queen got Koed no speculation there lmao

 

[Julius]

Why do you have Oda as a clown in your profile?

Why do you have Oda as a clown in your profile?

Its his favorite costume
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They were right she got crushed she took heavy damage they are speculating whether Big Mom survived or not.

Different with fodders outright saying Queen got Koed no speculation there lmao

Stop lying to yourself, they are clearly confirming something based on their fodder's eyes and interpretations

 

[Ratatofolk]

Post GK Doffy is on par with cracker, maybe barely stronger. Still weaker than Jack let alone Queen.

Jack at best has as good as endurance as Queen; but far worse durability.

Inu and Neko are ryou masters who were able to cut Kaido; Dressrosa Luffy has much worst CoA than them not even a contest.

Queen took no damage from big mom as he literally was shown without any marks after that fight. He literally played dead to create a plan to capture her and succeeded.

Anyone of these people easily survive boundman. Boundman was necessary for Ulti cause Gear 3 wouldn’t work on her despite she being way less durable and enduring as jack let alone Queen.

Fodder said Queen got Koed lmao by no haki Big Mom. Boundman will fuck up Queen even harder as it scales above no haki Big Mom that 2 shot Queen

Where are panels of Jack tanking multiple ryuo attacks from neko/inu.

Pero was fighting sulong neko who>>>neko that fought Jack so you're saying Perospero can tank Boundman too.

Post GK Doffy is on par with cracker, maybe barely stronger. Still weaker than Jack let alone Queen.

Doflamingo 1 shot Sanji lmao. Queen needed King help to beat Sanji.

Jack needs to get past Perospero first

Stop lying to yourself, they are clearly confirming something based on their fodder's eyes and interpretations

They are speculating lmao while they confirmed Queen got Koed
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Boundman was necessary for Ulti cause Gear 3 wouldn’t work on her despite she being way less durable and enduring as jack let alone Queen.

Boundman was required to get free from her grip not to take her down holy shit reading comprehension of a toodler

 

[Julius]

They are speculating lmao while they confirmed Queen got Koed

Showed awaken panels later = Koed

 

[Ratatofolk]

Showed awaken panels later = Koed

Getting up after Koed doesn't change that you get Koed lmao

 

[Kiiro]

Post GK Doffy is on par with cracker, maybe barely stronger. Still weaker than Jack let alone Queen.

Jack at best has as good as endurance as Queen; but far worse durability.

Inu and Neko are ryou masters who were able to cut Kaido; Dressrosa Luffy has much worst CoA than them not even a contest.

Queen took no damage from big mom as he literally was shown without any marks after that fight. He literally played dead to create a plan to capture her and succeeded.

Anyone of these people easily survive boundman. Boundman was necessary for Ulti cause Gear 3 wouldn’t work on her despite she being way less durable and enduring as jack let alone Queen.

Lol no matter what version, Cracker aint st the level of Doffy.

1.- Doflamingo was able to stop a double Calvary canon with awakening. Cracker cant, his biscuits break. Doffy was able to damage and make Bound Man run for his life, Cracker barely was able to stall, making each time more biscuits where Luffy was at no danger, Doffy was able to endure several hits of Bound Man, Cracker didn't even endure 1 hit from the weakest form. How is Cracker equal to Doffy?

2.- Jack has been able to fight with many fatal hits, Queen hasnt. Nothing shows that Queen is close to Jack in endurance. While Durability for sure is for Queen, it aint a surprise for a Mamut with no haki lol.

3.- Ryou masters? Since when? Did Jack suffer internal damage in Zou? Seems he didn't.

Besides, that doesn't mean they have stronger haki, just different applications than Luffy, or do Boa sisters also have stronger haki than Luffy? Knowing a different application than Luffy doesn't mean he has a stronger haki.

4.- What? Gear 4th for Luffy? So Ulti is parasite level? Hahahahha. There is a hige difference between needing Bound Man to escape from the wrap of Ulti tk needing Bound Man to defeat Ulti.

Gear 3 level AP is already enough to defeat Page 1 or Ulti at the same time, Luffy let his guard down and Ulti trapped him, obviously base Luffy doesnt have the physical power to compete against a Dino, reason he needed Bound Man to escape, not to defeat her. Get your facts straight.

Stupid scaling,

 

[Ratatofolk]

He literally played dead to create a plan to capture her and succeeded.

headcannon.com Queen literally said that Big Mom was like a raging boar she will run around Udon so whether Queen got up earlier or not, Big Mom won't attack him she would still run around Udon and ignored Queen there's no reason for Queen to be afraid getting up earlier.

This means Queen knew Big Mom won't attack him when he got up lmao there's no faking there Queen literally got KOed fodders said so they are more credible than your delusional wish

 

[Kiiro]

Its his favorite costume
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Stop lying to yourself, they are clearly confirming something based on their fodder's eyes and interpretations

Why do you have him as a clown?

If you you label Oda as a clown for not being to understand his manga and fulfill your headcanon, and then try to say bullshit arguments that go agaisnt what is shown, you should be the one using that costume, butthurt.

 

[Uncle Van]

Even Apoo could destroy Kizaru’s body. Apoo's attack are just more effective than Kaido's or Big Mom. Beside, it aint the same start losing conscious to really be knocked. As you mention, Queen wasnt reallg knocked just as Luffy, Lucci against Gear 5 or Kizaru vs Gear 5, or Doffy smashed at the flower hill, all those examples were heavy damage where they almost lost conscious thanks to a great hit.

Dude how many different replies do you need...

 

[Kiiro]

Dude how many different replies do you need...

?? What do you mean?