Powers & Abilities Can someone be a hakiman and a DF merchant at the same time?

Can hakimen be DF merchants too?

  • No, but they might be able to compete with hakimen in haki.

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#23
No because they are both jokes with negative percpetion attached to them that people use to cope about whatever character they don't like not REALLY being a top tier. That is all.

Shanks is not a "haki-man for example, he is a swordsman. Arguably the only "haki-men" are Garp and I guess Koby? But nobody would ever call them such because Haki is literally basic shit you just NEED to be able to use it in combat at least somewhat if you want to be even a vague threat overall.

Devil fruit merchants at least sorta exist in the form of characters like Sugar for example. Characters with either zero haki, or such little haki that they are utterly reliant on their fruits instead.

Most character don't fit either definition.

Like, let us take Imu for example. They are upwards of 800 years+ old. If they are NOT a devil and instead eat a devil fruit? Unless they are an abysmal match for their fruit Imu is bound to have mastered their devil fruit better than literally any other fruit user on the planet.


BUT, the same is true of their Haki as well. Imu reigns supreme as the ruler of the world. That is Top 1 willpower aka Haki set up there. Imu also for sure has Haki since he one shot Sabo, the logia user, with one tail/arrow attack. So unless Imu just learned Haki like last week ago they more than likely trained Haki for 800 year+ as well maming them a haki god. Thus?

If you took Imus fruit away? They still have Haki. If Oda reveals a haki off-switch/will suppression of some kind? They still got the fruit power. They are not overly reliant on either, and mastered both, thus are neither a fruit merchant nor haki-man/woman/being etc
 
#26
Shanks is not a "haki-man for example, he is a swordsman. Arguably the only "haki-men" are Garp and I guess Koby?
Everyone is Hakiman if there is such a thing as ''Hakiman''.

Garp is a ''martial artist'' if you are going to compare it with ''swordsmanship'' which is a type of fighting style.

Garp is literally training without using Haki to improve his martial art, Zolo still is a swordsman when he doesn't use Haki in his attack as he did vs Monet.

Haki and fighting styles are 2 different things.

But since ZKKfans don't know these basic concepts, they think Mihawk should be stronger than Shanks when he is confirmed to be weaker than Shanks.

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...-wgs-title-destroying-the-hakiman-myth.66093/
 
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#28
You could argue that having a powerful DF boosts your CoC, as CoC is linked to overall power. When Kaido got drunk and went into Shuron Hakke mode (which enhanced his physical properties), he also had his Haki improved. I think that is especially true for Zoans that boost all of your stats. Just imagine Garp or Mihawk having an awakened Azure Dragon fruit.

Same goes for Joyboy's Haki. That Haki wasn't separate from Joyboy's fruit. It was the pinnacle of Joyboy's strength/potential which included the stength gain he received from his fruit.

So I guess EOS villains will be the pinnacle of both worlds. Whitebard had a top tier fruit, top tier Haki and a top tier weapon, Blackbeard will have multiple top tier fruits with top tier Haki, just like Luffy and Imu will have awakened top tier fruits with top tier Haki.
Kaido showed stronger haki because he became more serious, we know that you can intensify your haki just like what Law did to cancel df hax or what Zoro does during KoH/using enma. It’s not a fixed level.

OT: The peak god-tiers like Imu and Joyboy have the best of both worlds.
 
#29
I am 100% convinced that having a DF caps your haki resources.
So whoever eats a DF has made their decision.

Seeing how hakimen manage (soru, op speed, op firepower, op CoA, op CoO, CoC, adv CoC) I don't see how eating a df beats having a subordinate who ate one.
 
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