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Let me guess, you don’t see the laser beam traveling at light speed towards Bonney and it doesn’t matter to you that Luffy travels faster enough to grab Bonney before the light speed laser hits her

hmm, you legitimately don’t know anything you’re talking about



And you’ve decided that this means they aren’t light speed (even though in real life lasers are light speed)

you’ve decided one piece has light that is slower than light speed because… it’s what you want

First, you don't have any panel whichever says it's moving at light speed. Infact, we know it shouldn't because they are just based on kiz df and second, it doesn't make sense for characters to dodge light speed when they later had been shown struggling with much slower speed.



Third, make up your mind.

Fucking hilarious that you randomly think real life physics matters to Oda or to this story
In above post, you laughed at the idea of real life physics matters to oda..but when it became convenient for the sake of your argument, you brought up the real physics argument -....but but ...in real life laser travels at light speed.


We have pre TS Hawkins and drake able to perceive Pacifista lasers


We have fuckn chopper dodging Queen's laser

 
In above post, you laughed at the idea of real life physics matters to oda
Indeed… Oda is the one who introduced the idea that Kizaru’s kicks are the speed of light and then he had Sentomaru reacting to those kicks

the “speed of light” is a real life physics term… Oda himself has no idea what this term entails since Kizaru’s kicks are does not behave like “speed of light” so you take what is given

Oda uses a real physics term badly. So you take what he says and what he presents as is… Kizaru’s kicks are canonically the “speed of light”, A physics term and they canonically do not behave like anything that’s the speed of light in real physics. This is what’s FACTUAL in the manga

Same way in the manga Oda uses the word “laser” which is a real life physics term which carries the same connotation as Oda saying “speed of light”…

your only arguments here is to say that Kizaru was lying when he said his kick was the speed of light… Since you think that “not following real physics” matters

or you can claim that the one piece “speed of light” is lower than the real physics speed of light


We have fuckn chopper dodging Queen's laser
Yes, because Chopper is faster than Pre time skip Thriller bark Zoro, who was dodging light speed attacks back then too
 
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because it contradicts itself when he gets hit by things that are slower than light speed.
name them.
his monster point form are you not paying attention?
This is the exact argument you brought up for Zoro and you failed to explain why Killer hitting a distracted Zoro somehow contradicts Zoro being able to dodge light speed attacks

who told you that Chopper’s monster point is slow?

again and again your issue of assuming things keeps coming up
 
The fact that Kizaru can accelerate already tells us that OP lightspeed isn't some fixed value
What about DC and Marvel light speed?

in DC and Marvel, characters can travel FASTER than light speed. Which is impossible in IRL physics

so are DC and Marvel also lying about their speed scales since they are actively not following the laws of physics?
 
What about DC and Marvel light speed?

in DC and Marvel, characters can travel FASTER than light speed. Which is impossible in IRL physics

so are DC and Marvel also lying about their speed scales since they are actively not following the laws of physics?
The comics at least have ftl speeds actually shown to be absurdly faster than irl light when the likes of Superman / Thor / Silver Surfer travel across the galaxies and stuff. No instance of "lightspeed" or "beyond lightspeed" in OP has ever been visualized or presented through text as something that we can say is (or is at the very least even remotely close to) lightspeed by irl standards.

Plus, there are actual mentions of the exact figure of lightspeed in both the comics themselves and the guidebooks.


 
he comics at least have ftl speeds actually shown to be absurdly faster than irl light when the likes of Superman / Thor / Silver Surfer travel across the galaxies and stuff
…. Did you not understand what I said? I said FTL is physically impossible. I didn’t say “did DC or Marvel depict FTL properly”… This is nonsense statement since FTL doesn’t exist in physics

your argument was an appeal to IRL physics… And I’m telling you that IRL physics says FTL doesn’t exist

so Choose, Do these fictional stories have to follow IrL physics or not?
 
…. Did you not understand what I said? I said FTL is physically impossible. I didn’t say “did DC or Marvel depict FTL properly”… This is nonsense statement since FTL doesn’t exist in physics

your argument was an appeal to IRL physics… Andnim telling you that IRL physics says FTL doesn’t exist

so Choose, Do these fictional stories have to follow IrL physics or not?
You do understand the very simple idea that there is a wide gradient between "something depicted in media is +- equivalent to irl physics" and a depiction of something that doesn't even begin to approximate irl physics, right? The former is pretty much nonexistent (Superman wouldn't be able to lift an apartment building without it collapsing, yada yada yada) and is therefore quite useless as any definitive metric, as it would rule out 99,9% of comic / manga feats as something you can even try to evaluate; BUT there is a huge difference between how different media portray lightspeed.

Lightspeed in DC comics, despite all the speedforce bullshit attached to it, has been presented in the context of feats and statements that put it in the same general bracket as irl lightspeed. You don't have to slavishly and blindly adhere to the "bUt WhErE iS mY NuClEaR ExPlOsIoN wHeN FlAsH tRIpS aT LiGhTsPeEd, reeeee" bullshit when judging such feats because there is at least some level of portrayal that makes it closer to irl lightspeed, even if not equivalent by any stretch of the imagination.

It's all about degrees of general closeness, not attempts to exclude something because it doesn't exactly behave according to irl physics.

In One Piece lightspeed isn't even close to anything even approximating irl light in terms of speed going by the visuals and everything else. Why would I put it on the same pedestal as something like DC comics in this sense? You should treat different media differently, appropriately to their content and context.
 
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In One Piece lightspeed isn't even close to anything even approximating irl light in terms of speed going by the visuals and everything else
So your problem is that One piece doesn’t make up fake physics well enough for your liking

okay.

That doesn’t change the fact that it has internal physics. And that internal physics is directly supposed to be understood by the reader as analogous to real physics. When Oda has Kizaru say that his kick is the speed of light, unless Oda goes out of his way to say “My universe’s speed of light is less than real life speed of light” then that’s the end of that

Oda specifically has Kizaru say speed of light so that us readers know it’s analogous to real life speed of light. End of story.

Your problem with how much fake physics Oda can add to back up his statement is your own. Canonically it won’t change shit. Fake physics doesn’t become real based on how much made up shit you add to it
 
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Maybe we should discuss how the light beams are LINEAR.

It's not that hard to just move out of the line of sight. You don't even need to react faster than light, you just need to understand the trajectory before it happens.
 
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