Controversial Characters that are protected too much

#41
Uta is canon, not the movie. Oda wrote the script it’s what was plastered all over for PR

Figarland, treasure chest baby, literally all these canon pieces of info first revealed in the film

Observation killing directly from movie pamphlet or are you not gonna call that canon either?

Kizaru and Fujitora both got embarrassed by Shanks and that’s how Oda would treat any Admiral against Shanks the same way in manga (see GB)
No, the treasure chest stuff was from a booklet released around the time of the movie. The events of the movie are not canon, with a live streamer almost destroying the world or whatever. The fact is, in the actual manga, Oda doesn't "protect" Shanks. Any canon character is protected in those movies because they have to walk out unharmed
 
#43
Law isn't even favoured generally, he is usually nerfed because his fruit was made too strong initially. He only looks favoured when he's next to Kidd.

Oda doomed Kidd when he made both him and Law df merchants but gave Law a god tier logic defying fruit, and gave Kidd a glorified lego builder. It is impossible for Law and Kidd to be on the same lvl, and this was made evident 3 times now, on the roof, in the fight against Big Mom, and then in their fights against their respective Yonkou opponents.

If there's one thing Oda did here, was stay true to their abilities. Despite Kidd being portrayed as a top Supernova, he just couldn't justify Kidd performing Law lvl feats, he gave Law a far more broken fruit and he constantly hammers down the point that Law is a lot more difficult to deal with than Kidd. I think he picks on Kidd, because his fruit could have been so much more, and if not, then atleast have Kidd tap into haki.
Tell Law to get coc and be rhe closer when he fights next to luffy or kid

Until then, he's weaker
That's why he fought Teach...a reckless top tier
Kid got cheapshotted and his gun exploded

Oda never made kid vs Shanks.
If kid lost 1v1 then you could talk.

As captains :
CoC alone placed Luffy > Law at DR. Let alone g4
CoC places kid > Law
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Anyway

Law, Zoro, Shanks are all portected by plot

Oda didn't want Shanks damaged on 1v1 so he made him cheapshot Kid
Oda made Teach fight Law so that Law doesn't get crushed easily .
Also the fact bM has to be on her back while punching Law

Zoro... is Zoro
 
#45
Law isn't even favoured generally, he is usually nerfed because his fruit was made too strong initially. He only looks favoured when he's next to Kidd.

Oda doomed Kidd when he made both him and Law df merchants but gave Law a god tier logic defying fruit, and gave Kidd a glorified lego builder. It is impossible for Law and Kidd to be on the same lvl, and this was made evident 3 times now, on the roof, in the fight against Big Mom, and then in their fights against their respective Yonkou opponents.

If there's one thing Oda did here, was stay true to their abilities. Despite Kidd being portrayed as a top Supernova, he just couldn't justify Kidd performing Law lvl feats, he gave Law a far more broken fruit and he constantly hammers down the point that Law is a lot more difficult to deal with than Kidd. I think he picks on Kidd, because his fruit could have been so much more, and if not, then atleast have Kidd tap into haki.
Oda picked on Kidd cuz he was meant to be a hypetool for Shanks. He subtly downplayed Kidd and made him “mid” so that his catastrophic loss to Shanks wouldn’t be so upsetting, while building up Shanks’ hype

This is the only way to justify Kidd’s end. It’s very much calculated, Kidd was all gas but no V8 engine to back up
 

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#47
Tf are people mentioning Law?
Oda‘s not afraid to humiliate Law as evident with the arm scene.

The SHs gets protected more, their plot armor is dialed up to 11 in the post-ts. Shanks gets protected the most by far out of any modern top-tier. Post-ts Zoro also has to look good for fanservice lol. Aura diffing Monet is the perfect evidence, Zoro also hasn’t progressed character-wise throughout post-ts — He just has to look cool as if it’s the only checkbox.

Law is stronger than Kidd, that’s my angle. BM only pointed out Law’s techniques, Puncture Wille was an island-level move that made the comparable hole to Bajrang Gun. Oda even inserted a meta joke about Kidd just taking the credit:
Law also showed blatant improvement in haki post-Wano. Law vs Teach was paralleled as a meetup between 2 yonkos like Shanks/WB via the marines’ comments.

Shanks being Roger 2.0 is also another angle that Oda could be going for. He showed Law’s performance against Teach first. This then sets up expectations for Kidd and directly hypes him up thus making him the perfect hypetool.

It’s probably a mix of both, Law‘s better than Kidd and Shanks is really fucking strong.
Zoro doesn't have plot he gets nerfed.
 
#48
Tf are people mentioning Law?
Oda‘s not afraid to humiliate Law as evident with the arm scene.

The SHs gets protected more, their plot armor is dialed up to 11 in the post-ts. Shanks gets protected the most by far out of any modern top-tier. Post-ts Zoro also has to look good for fanservice lol. Aura diffing Monet is the perfect evidence, Zoro also hasn’t progressed character-wise throughout post-ts — He just has to look cool as if it’s the only checkbox.

Law is stronger than Kidd, that’s my angle. BM only pointed out Law’s techniques, Puncture Wille was an island-level move that made the comparable hole to Bajrang Gun. Oda even inserted a meta joke about Kidd just taking the credit:
Law also showed blatant improvement in haki post-Wano. Law vs Teach was paralleled as a meetup between 2 yonkos like Shanks/WB via the marines’ comments.

Shanks being Roger 2.0 is also another angle that Oda could be going for. He showed Law’s performance against Teach first. This then sets up expectations for Kidd and directly hypes him up thus making him the perfect hypetool.

It’s probably a mix of both, Law‘s better than Kidd and Shanks is really fucking strong.
People here want Oda to give the SHs preferential treatment and are shocked when characters he’a obviously invested in like Law get good treatment

In fact Oda actually nerfs Law because abilities like shambles are amputate are actually busted. One shot material


like call me when Law literally checks on his enemies to make sure they are healthy and recruits a bunch of scrubs to “protect” them lol.
 
#56
That’s why I said that portrayal-wise, Kidd can get to leech off of Law’s feats.

Nope, even his endurance is not evidently above Law‘s lol. Law took a hybrid TB, a barrage of BM’s punches, and held the fort offscreen while Kidd was being useless.
LMFAO BRO
Bigmom was literally highlighting Kidd’s endurance

Nope, Law got all the wank in a span of a chapter. He was jumped, he showed a haki feat that only top-tiers have displayed so far. He got a hit off, he got a clash off against gura gura. Oda also let the choir sing their praises for Law throughout the fight, I can bring out the receipts.
That’s exactly why I talked abt favouritism , law had the chance to showcase his abilities while poor Kidd got swatted like a fly :sanmoji: ,

I can bring out the receipts. The big one is the marines and Akainu treating it like a Shanks/WB matchup, even the words used were exactly the same. “Redhair and WB have made contact” —> “Law and Teach have made contact”.
That just happens when 2 big pirates “ come in contact “ with each other , Kidd literally has the same level of reputation as law .


Kidd didn’t get any of that type of hype, Shanks gave him his flowers for his imaginary feat against fodders by comparison lmfao.
Yeah , poor Kidd
His only feat was done in a timeline that didn’t even exist lmfao

And Shanks himself has a solid case to be the strongest top-tier right now. We saw it with Greenbull, we saw the giants compare his haki to Soyboy. What more do the doubters want lmfaooo.
So shanks is now an outlier ? :mihugh:

What more do the doubters want lmfaooo. Y’all rather downplay Law and Kidd rather than upscale Shanks compared to normal top-tiers like what Oda is intending for. Well, you’re gonna really start to see it in the next 5 years.
Man really started wanking shanks above toptier level to excuse Kidd from his L ,
we are literally comparing shanks to his future killer , he isn’t the godlike being u are making him out to be .

The theme is so simple
2 yonkos snatch ponygelphs from 3B pirates ,
1 pirate got one shotted while the other one actually put up a struggle

in the former scenario , the yonko didn’t hold back at all
While In the latter , the yonko was careless and he only showcased his 2nd ability in the end .
 
#57
LMFAO BRO
Bigmom was literally highlighting Kidd’s endurance


That’s exactly why I talked abt favouritism , law had the chance to showcase his abilities while poor Kidd got swatted like a fly :sanmoji: ,


That just happens when 2 big pirates “ come in contact “ with each other , Kidd literally has the same level of reputation as law .



Yeah , poor Kidd
His only feat was done in a timeline that didn’t even exist lmfao


So shanks is now an outlier ? :mihugh:


Man really started wanking shanks above toptier level to excuse Kidd from his L ,
we are literally comparing shanks to his future killer , he isn’t the godlike being u are making him out to be .

The theme is so simple
2 yonkos snatch ponygelphs from 3B pirates ,
1 pirate got one shotted while the other one actually put up a struggle

in the former scenario , the yonko didn’t hold back at all
While In the latter , the yonko was careless and he only showcased his 2nd ability in the end .
You just gonna downplay every Law feat that I just listed compared to Kidd? LOL

Nope, that line by the marines and Akainu was a clear callback to a yonko meeting. Only ever been used with Shanks/WB and Shanks/Kaido. That’s the thing, Oda made it clear that Law’s status is on that level and deserving of so throughout the chapter. “As expected of a man worth 3 Bill”; “Shall we retreat, admiral?”; “That’s BM’s killer we’re up against right now!”.

Yes, Shanks is strong af and likely an outlier. The Greenbull scene and being compared to Joyboy wasn’t enough? Oda wasn’t afraid to make an established top-tier look beneath Shanks, why are y’all so surprised that an enraged Shanks could do that to Kidd who wasn’t able to put up a guard?

Anyways, everybody has very nitpicky double standards. Y’all say Kidd is by portrayal close to Law, but conveniently never admit that it’s the same case with BM and Kaido. Oda has cleanly established that the duo are on par with each other, the feats just don’t match.
 
#59
You just gonna downplay every Law feat that I just listed compared to Kidd? LOL
I alrdy mentioned it in my 2nd post
we can round and round abt how Kidd has the most pathetic showings in history while law is pretty impressive but oda did portray these characters on the same level

Nope, that line by the marines and Akainu was a clear callback to a yonko meeting. Only ever been used with Shanks/WB and Shanks/Kaido.
And is law a yonko ?
option A : law is now a fully established yonko
Option B : that line is used when big shot pirates clash which all yonkos are

don’t know why u keep pressing this when Kidd has the same portrayal as Law


That’s the thing, Oda made it clear that Law’s status is on that level and deserving of so throughout the chapter. “As expected of a man worth 3 Bill”; “Shall we retreat, admiral?”; “That’s BM’s killer we’re up against right now!”.
Yes ? Isn’t that what the thread is abt ?
Oda kept wanking law like a madman


Yes, Shanks is strong af and likely an outlier.
:willight:
he is just 1 armed roger , even roger isnt that much stronger compared to someone like kaido and remember that we are comparing shanks to a guy who has alrdy scarred him in the past and will also kill him in the future ,
quite the outlier huh .


Oda wasn’t afraid to make an established top-tier look beneath Shanks
Toptier has its own sub-tiers ,
Greenbul got portrayed the same when compared to someone like kaido


but conveniently never admit that it’s the same case with BM and Kaido. Oda has cleanly established that the duo are on par with each other, the feats just don’t match.
Well I would have admitted that if oda never made kaido say this

That “ truly “ is quite the pickle here , it means he has fought characters but he doesn’t know if they can truly fight on par with him ,
These aren’t feats or abilities , it’s simple portrayal .
 
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