Character Discussion Characters that are supposed to be kind, admirable or sympathetic but aren't
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This is fair.
WB did not order anyone but his charisma, self sacrificing nature and presence would have definitely caused a lot of people to swallow their own self- preservation instinct and just die fighting when they could have fled.
This also had horrible long term consequences because WB's death lead to:
- Teach getting Gura
- Fewer WB crew members left to protect his former territories leading to annexation and bloodbaths
- Sengoku resigns and the more extreme Akainu takes his place
Also fair. I like to think he would have, but in all the years WB ruled as Yonko, at least some of his crewmates would have been captured or killed by Marines.
Then again it's hard to say because Ace was not a normal WB pirate, he was Roger's son and his execution was publicized by the WG.
They pulled out Sengoku, Garp and the C3 just to ensure his execution would be uninterrupted and televised.
So given WB's reputation and the WG's stance towards Yonko, it's possible WB would have done the same as Ace for other WB members especially in his prime or at least sent Marco/Jozu/Vista etc as long as the prisoner was alive.
And the WG would probably let the prisoner go because they don't want war.
WB did not order anyone but his charisma, self sacrificing nature and presence would have definitely caused a lot of people to swallow their own self- preservation instinct and just die fighting when they could have fled.
This also had horrible long term consequences because WB's death lead to:
- Teach getting Gura
- Fewer WB crew members left to protect his former territories leading to annexation and bloodbaths
- Sengoku resigns and the more extreme Akainu takes his place
Yeah I've always wondered, what if the WG decides to execute a random WB pirate, would WB have come? 
Then again it's hard to say because Ace was not a normal WB pirate, he was Roger's son and his execution was publicized by the WG.
They pulled out Sengoku, Garp and the C3 just to ensure his execution would be uninterrupted and televised.
So given WB's reputation and the WG's stance towards Yonko, it's possible WB would have done the same as Ace for other WB members especially in his prime or at least sent Marco/Jozu/Vista etc as long as the prisoner was alive.
And the WG would probably let the prisoner go because they don't want war.
Favoritism to ace is complete headcanon and an attempt to slander Newgate as a hypocrite. Fodders die in every war yet no tears are shed , up until someone of note dies.
this is common shit that happens in every warfare in anime, micro-analyzing with fodders isn’t gonna get to no point. They’re fodders for a reason.
this is common shit that happens in every warfare in anime, micro-analyzing with fodders isn’t gonna get to no point. They’re fodders for a reason.
I like Sengoku but he has his moments.
Like when he tells Saul to stfu and follow orders.
Or when he tells Ace his true parentage and of the WG's attempts to kill him.
He and Garp have been portrayed as being better than the other Marines but they're hardly better people.
Like when he tells Saul to stfu and follow orders.
Or when he tells Ace his true parentage and of the WG's attempts to kill him.
He and Garp have been portrayed as being better than the other Marines but they're hardly better people.
So we’re gonna label anyone as a bad guy now huh? If that’s the case.
~ Dragon not doing anything to even try and save his son (bad guy)
~ Oden rather having sail for some more years then stay back and fight Kaido then n there
~ Luffy punching a celestial dragon and getting his friends in danger (knowing he could’ve gotten them killed)
~ Kuma willing to capture Luffy and bring him to sengoku or he’ll give zoro severe pain
~ Momonosuke willing to “sacrifice” his entire army just so he can become the shogun
~ Fujitora fighting Luffy and not doffy
there are 0 good guys in OP I am convinced.
~ Dragon not doing anything to even try and save his son (bad guy)
~ Oden rather having sail for some more years then stay back and fight Kaido then n there
~ Luffy punching a celestial dragon and getting his friends in danger (knowing he could’ve gotten them killed)
~ Kuma willing to capture Luffy and bring him to sengoku or he’ll give zoro severe pain
~ Momonosuke willing to “sacrifice” his entire army just so he can become the shogun
~ Fujitora fighting Luffy and not doffy
there are 0 good guys in OP I am convinced.
Yeah sometimes I see people asking why the Admiral fanbase doesn't like those two and honestly.....it's because they're arguably just as morally dubious as the Admirals but get far more respectable portrayal.
Hell in some ways the Admirals are arguably more justified.
Kizaru did more to help VP than Garp did for Ace and Akainu explicitly brings up the "sacrifices" when he bombs Ohara as opposed to just "Le Gubbmint said so!".
Then there's Fuji who straight up defies the WG like a badass making Garp look even more silly.
Arguably he too could fall a bit under this category though since his inaction against the birdcage at DR may have indirectly harmed civilians.
Then there's Smoker, Momonga etc...lots of cool VAs who get shafted to keep the Sen/Garp/Koby hype traim going.
Hell in some ways the Admirals are arguably more justified.
Kizaru did more to help VP than Garp did for Ace and Akainu explicitly brings up the "sacrifices" when he bombs Ohara as opposed to just "Le Gubbmint said so!".
Then there's Fuji who straight up defies the WG like a badass making Garp look even more silly.
Arguably he too could fall a bit under this category though since his inaction against the birdcage at DR may have indirectly harmed civilians.
Then there's Smoker, Momonga etc...lots of cool VAs who get shafted to keep the Sen/Garp/Koby hype traim going.
I mean yes. Many characters that are supposed to be good in One Piece are made hypocritical and unsympathetic with them failing to do good right when they have the chance or showing hypocrisy.
In the last case Fujitora had the chance to save many people at Dressrosa by moving directly against Doflamingo and defeating him far quicker and easier than Luffy did and yet didn't, and did the bare minimum to help against the Birdcage, which I'm sure he could have countered or destroyed without much difficulty by himself.
Sengoku though is worse because he approved and was accomplice in the destruction of an island and showed no regret or remorse about it, nor even about all the civilians that were killed by Sakazuki.
True good people in One Piece without any big flaw or hypocrisy are harder to find than fake ones.
In the last case Fujitora had the chance to save many people at Dressrosa by moving directly against Doflamingo and defeating him far quicker and easier than Luffy did and yet didn't, and did the bare minimum to help against the Birdcage, which I'm sure he could have countered or destroyed without much difficulty by himself.
Sengoku though is worse because he approved and was accomplice in the destruction of an island and showed no regret or remorse about it, nor even about all the civilians that were killed by Sakazuki.
True good people in One Piece without any big flaw or hypocrisy are harder to find than fake ones.