Character Discussion Characters that would be trash without their devil fruit

[Jew D. Boy]

How dare you talk about the goat!! :king:

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Smokey, if I could only pick one traumatic experience in a life full of them to erase from my mind forever, it would be the first time I read Foxy’s arc. I am more willing to die on this hill than any other

 

[Cinera]

Smokey, if I could only pick one traumatic experience in a life full of them to erase from my mind forever, it would be the first time I read Foxy’s arc. I am more willing to die on this hill than any other

"First time".
I never knew you were an M.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

"First time".
I never knew you were an M.

Probably more of an S, whichever one derives LESS pleasure from torture (but still willingly chooses to go through it)

 

[Cinera]

Probably more of an S, whichever one derives LESS pleasure from torture (but still willingly chooses to go through it)

Speaking very roughly here:

• Sadists enjoy inflicting pain
• Masochists enjoy experiencing pain

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Speaking very roughly here:

• Sadists enjoy inflicting pain
• Masochists enjoy experiencing pain

Then I suppose you had it right the first time

 

[wereng99]

Sanji, not realy DF but without RS he's legit fodder

on a serious note: smoker

 

[York]

Robin

Chopper, too, now that I think about it. And Brook of course

 

[Kiwipom]

@All the people saying Ace


Like all of the devil fruit users, Ace wouldn't be as strong without his devil fruit but saying he would be trash is an exaggeration.
He actually has a wider range of abilities than most devil fruit users since he has CoC and CoA. Not to forget, he grew up training with Garp who isn't a devil fruit user (and Ace didn't have a devil fruit back then.)

In fact, he only had his devil fruit for 2 to 3 years compared to a lot of other devil fruit users who's had it for longer and are more reliant on it like Law and Luffy.

 

[Zowo]

Luffy
Kidd
Mingo

 

[Fujishiro]

Ok but just think about Kizaru. His forte is his speed also all his attacks need his df powers: light kick/finger with explosion, teleport, light sword, spam light lasers, logia invulnerability (vs Apoo) and of course, again, his speed. If you remove his df powers what are his relevant showings in the manga if there is any left?

The man was cqc fighting Rayleigh with a sword, and ''matched'' Rayleigh's haki kick. He isnt all about his DF.

 

[SmokedOut]

Wow, did you meme that yourself?

Lol no I'm not that skilled. I stole it from Reddit
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Smokey, if I could only pick one traumatic experience in a life full of them to erase from my mind forever, it would be the first time I read Foxy’s arc. I am more willing to die on this hill than any other

Haha the only canon that felt like filler, gotta love it.

 

[Kenshiro11]

This motherfucker is garbage even WITH his Devil Fruit

delete this! :king:

 

[Midnight Delight]

Probably Blackbeard
He would still be in the YC Range

 

[The White Crane]

Obvious answer is Enel. His base stats suck so much.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Lol no I'm not that skilled. I stole it from Reddit
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Haha the only canon that felt like filler, gotta love it.

Precisely the reason why I *don’t* love him, a complete and utter waste in the middle of a masterpiece

delete this! :king:

 

[Finalbeta]

Probably Blackbeard
He would still be in the YC Range

His durability would even increase more funnily.

Yami wasted it.

 

[Cozy Sofa]

Crocodile!

Slow, no hand to hand combat, no haki-feats. How am I the first to mention him?

Also

Mr 3
Mr 5
Foxy
Sugar

 

[Kurozumi D. Trussop]

Chopper.

Oh wait, Chopper’s already trash,

 

[Dickie D. Dick]

Ok but just think about Kizaru. His forte is his speed also all his attacks need his df powers: light kick/finger with explosion, teleport, light sword, spam light lasers, logia invulnerability (vs Apoo) and of course, again, his speed. If you remove his df powers what are his relevant showings in the manga if there is any left?

Kizaru was stated by Oda to be a monster before he even joined the Marine!
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This doesn't make sense. Any character is gonna be significantly weaker if you take away their weapon and assume that their experiences with it wouldn't be replaced with something else. Most decent characters would struggle with Hody, so they're trash anyway.

That said Luffy, Doflamingo, Smoker, Hancock, Katakuri, Lucci, Sabo, and the emperors can all hang with Sanji at least.

*hang above Sanji at least
Fixed it for you.

 

[Just a member]

Kizaru was stated by Oda to be a monster before he even joined the Marine!
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*hang above Sanji at least
Fixed it for you.

Sure but yet the admiral get op df from the navy/WG and even if I agree they are strong also on their own (Akainu surviving WB, Akainu and Aokiji durability feat in their 10 days fight, Akainu shacking off haki attacks from WB commanders like they were almost nothing etc.) yet their elemental powers are their trademark to the point you rarely see, if that ever happens like for Kizaru, they use anything else bar their df powers.