Character Discussion Characters that would be trash without their devil fruit

Dickie D. Dick

SII - Sakazuki Incinerate Imu
#63
Sure but yet the admiral get op df from the navy/WG and even if I agree they are strong also on their own (Akainu surviving WB, Akainu and Aokiji durability feat in their 10 days fight, Akainu shacking off haki attacks from WB commanders like they were almost nothing etc.) yet their elemental powers are their trademark to the point you rarely see, if that ever happens like for Kizaru, they use anything else bar their df powers.
The theard is about character who be 'trash' w/o DF
You can argue abou Kizaru being so much of a troll is the cause that he doesn't really achive anything in the manga even with his OP DF, doesn't made him 'trash' w/o it.
 

RayanOO

Lazy is the way
#71
He lost the most if not all his attack without his df?
his iron body alone is not good enough for PostSkip Standart imo
To be fair we never really see him going all out or fighting seriously.

He toyed with SH two times; was brain dead after that so no smart no haki etc.

Kuma was Dragon right hand, really smart, and has monster portrayal. I think the guy will deliver. But obviously he has an insane DF
 
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Jo_Ndule

#73
Marco will be mid tier around franky or Pedro
Ace will be mid tier
Teach would be high tier at best
Jozu will be mid tier
Admirals will be Inbetweeners/top high tiers except fuji who will be high high tier
Law will be mid tier
Luffy will be mid high tier
 
#76
To be fair we never really see him going all out or fighting seriously.

He toyed with SH two times; was brain dead after that so no smart no haki etc.

Kuma was Dragon right hand, really smart, and has monster portrayal. I think the guy will deliver. But obviously he has an insane DF
What do you think his fighting style would be without DF? I can't imagine. there is no sign or indication to suggest what he can do without it.
He's no marine which has atleast Rokhusiki as a back up, he has no weapon too. Not kicking or punching someone too. lol

He's certainly down massively without DF.
 
#78
The theard is about character who be 'trash' w/o DF
You can argue abou Kizaru being so much of a troll is the cause that he doesn't really achive anything in the manga even with his OP DF, doesn't made him 'trash' w/o it.
You are right as well. We actually could have closed thevthread with Jew D Boy mention of df weapons, that hit tue naip on the head. Then of course there are characters like Enel etc. who are way weaker than an admiral without his df yet Enel is the villain of a pre time skip arc and so forgotten long ago but he at least had mantra (which is coo) and at that time that was a very nice plus for him (now everybody and his grandmother have coo) whipe admirals are some kind of emd game threat and honestly it would be nice if Oda underlined, at least for Kizaru, his abilities outside his pika pika no mi. Anyway of course they are not trash at all without their df it is just they are seen using mainly or even only their df but most likely that will change when we will se them fight the next time.
 
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