Powers & Abilities Clearing a Misconception
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I agree, nothing implies that Zoro's CoC is Lacking, it's just being Wasted,
Like someone who leaves water valve open, Gaban was like wondering: "Hey why are you wasting all that water?", not saying it's Quality is Poor,
Also, leaving your Haki Active at all times (even if small leak) is taxing on the body, it's like you're in a state of combat at all times, yet Gaban was shocked that Zoro was at ease with it, it's like someone who's walking in double gravity yet doesn't know it,
However, I want to clear another misconception, Zoro did not use Haki against Mr. 1,
Haki doesn't make your sword pass through some Paper without harming it,
It also doesn't make you sense Objects & Environment as if it was Living Beings,
Haki manifests from Willpower, but Haki isn't Willpower, so don't assume any feat of Willpower is a feat of Haki.
Like someone who leaves water valve open, Gaban was like wondering: "Hey why are you wasting all that water?", not saying it's Quality is Poor,
Also, leaving your Haki Active at all times (even if small leak) is taxing on the body, it's like you're in a state of combat at all times, yet Gaban was shocked that Zoro was at ease with it, it's like someone who's walking in double gravity yet doesn't know it,
However, I want to clear another misconception, Zoro did not use Haki against Mr. 1,
Haki doesn't make your sword pass through some Paper without harming it,
It also doesn't make you sense Objects & Environment as if it was Living Beings,
Haki manifests from Willpower, but Haki isn't Willpower, so don't assume any feat of Willpower is a feat of Haki.
The writing surrounding the moment? It was Gabans annoyance with Zoros carelessness/unawareness then with haki control. The haki control part was dealt with two arcs earlier. Remember that neither of the two commentators said anything about Zoro having bad control even though Luffy spent all of Wano post fight, Egghead and then Elbaf with Zoro and Gaban even fought Zoro earlier and commented on Luffy having good crew.
As far as development goes then ofcourse there should be room for it, cause after all this Black Blades are still to be forged. Idk where you got the Yamatoish range in your head, there is just so much difference already. At this point Zoro probably already has the passive haki barrier like Kaido and BM at rooftop, going by Gabans and Luffys comment surrounding the moment.
The whole moment is about telling the ACoC users that it is useful against the HKs. Thats why Gaban tells Luffy to be mindful about how he uses it, thats why Gaban says to Zoro that Haki is power that is useful when consciously controlled and Zoro should be aware of this (meaning using ACoC to counter HKs like CoA is used to counter DFs) and why Loki says that now he can verbalize his power (ACoC).
As far as haki control proficiency thing goes like some want to differentiate Zoros usage or compare it to 1010 Luffy then it is also very wrong. Zoros entire training with Enma was about haki control, how much he exudes and how much he doesnt. He broke the seal/limit in his fight against King but could still control the outflow clearly visible throughout the fight. His drainage rate and everything was also solved in Egghead where he used Enma without any issues right from the start to the end (EH is what like two days event). No fatigue, nothing even when using high amounts of haki in his attacks without KoH against Nasujuro and catching Enma mid air and finishing off Lucci.
CoC/ACoC strength level depends on users overall strength, Zoros base/overall strength/without ACoC is the highest shown in the series so far.
As far as development goes then ofcourse there should be room for it, cause after all this Black Blades are still to be forged. Idk where you got the Yamatoish range in your head, there is just so much difference already. At this point Zoro probably already has the passive haki barrier like Kaido and BM at rooftop, going by Gabans and Luffys comment surrounding the moment.
The whole moment is about telling the ACoC users that it is useful against the HKs. Thats why Gaban tells Luffy to be mindful about how he uses it, thats why Gaban says to Zoro that Haki is power that is useful when consciously controlled and Zoro should be aware of this (meaning using ACoC to counter HKs like CoA is used to counter DFs) and why Loki says that now he can verbalize his power (ACoC).
As far as haki control proficiency thing goes like some want to differentiate Zoros usage or compare it to 1010 Luffy then it is also very wrong. Zoros entire training with Enma was about haki control, how much he exudes and how much he doesnt. He broke the seal/limit in his fight against King but could still control the outflow clearly visible throughout the fight. His drainage rate and everything was also solved in Egghead where he used Enma without any issues right from the start to the end (EH is what like two days event). No fatigue, nothing even when using high amounts of haki in his attacks without KoH against Nasujuro and catching Enma mid air and finishing off Lucci.
CoC/ACoC strength level depends on users overall strength, Zoros base/overall strength/without ACoC is the highest shown in the series so far.
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my question is.. is there any bad/weak CoC in the story so far?
honestly speaking.. based on how they knocking down people, the quality of most COC is seems the same, except for very few individuals (PK levels)
PK level of COC (shanks roger WB garp rocks harald),
rocks & harald because they KOed people in 5km radius during clash..
garp & roger because their combined COC beats rocks, WB because he clashed equally with roger & rocks
shanks because oda said his haki is more powerful than luffy (would knocked down all 100k fishmen), and it somehow cancel aramaki's transformation with his wifi COC
and then joyboy's COC.. (strongest so far, because cancelling gorosei abyss summoning & even vice admirals are knocked down.)
cmiiw, but what everyone called "Advanced COC" is actually about how they control their COC right?
honestly speaking.. based on how they knocking down people, the quality of most COC is seems the same, except for very few individuals (PK levels)
PK level of COC (shanks roger WB garp rocks harald),
rocks & harald because they KOed people in 5km radius during clash..
garp & roger because their combined COC beats rocks, WB because he clashed equally with roger & rocks
shanks because oda said his haki is more powerful than luffy (would knocked down all 100k fishmen), and it somehow cancel aramaki's transformation with his wifi COC
and then joyboy's COC.. (strongest so far, because cancelling gorosei abyss summoning & even vice admirals are knocked down.)
cmiiw, but what everyone called "Advanced COC" is actually about how they control their COC right?