Powers & Abilities CoA vs Dinosaur + Cyborg Durability ?

[Peroroncino]

Queen's cyborgness was never said to increase his defense like Kuma's does so using it to compare to king's defense is a coping mechanism

 

[IsaziSempi]

whitebeard never used haki on marineford.

 

[JyThony]

I voted Queen. King’s durability moreso comes from the hax of his racial abilities. I don’t recall him showing any CoA feats but it is impressive that he withstood some attacks from Zoro even without the flames on his back

If we include Lunarian abilities then the answer is obviously King tho

 

[Franosuke]

Dino Queen is probably more durable than base King w/ no flame on, but any version of King w/ flame is significantly more durable than any version of Queen.

And the whole reason King was not in his flame mode was because he was forced to block or dodge Zoro's attacks because he realized he could no longer just tank them

 

[Chrono]

Queen's cyborgness was never said to increase his defense like Kuma's does so using it to compare to king's defense is a coping mechanism

Queen still had Zoan defense. Albert didnt

 

[Peroroncino]

Queen still had Zoan defense. Albert didnt

king has both combined plus wings,he's also fast in his slowest form since he managed to catch up to RS sanji who has speed boosters in his defense form

 

[Chrono]

king has both combined plus wings,he's also fast in his slowest form since he managed to catch up to RS sanji who has speed boosters in his defense form

Im talking about every damage Zori did on King. He had no Zoan defense. Or Lunarian defense.

 

[Peroroncino]

Im talking about every damage Zori did on King. He had no Zoan defense. Or Lunarian defense.

and yet he was scared of zoro's attacks defense mode or not.
Zoro said it himself.

 

[Chrono]

and yet he was scared of zoro's attacks defense mode or not.
Zoro said it himself.

Doesnt matter. Thats not what the thread is about. This thread is a direct rebuttal to the whores like you that state Queen didnt defend himself against IJ. When in truth his Zoan Branchisaourous Skin is more defense than Albert had against Zori’s AdvCoC attacks.

 

[Peroroncino]

Doesnt matter. Thats not what the thread is about. This thread is a direct rebuttal to the whores like you that state Queen didnt defend himself against IJ. When in truth his Zoan Branchisaourous Skin is more defense than Albert had against Zori’s AdvCoC attacks.

you're the one who brought it up then you say it isn't what the thread is about

 

[Chrono]

you're the one who brought it up then you say it isn't what the thread is about

I brought up Albert being afraid of Zori ? Dont lie.

 

[Ven437]

King has never used his CoA for defense. This thread doesn't make any sense.

 

[Peroroncino]

I brought up Albert being afraid of Zori ? Dont lie.

you said his attacks didn't work but the manga says he's scared of said attacks.
Was i supposed to keep silent about this so you can feel better?

 

[Chrono]

you said his attacks didn't work but the manga says he's scared of said attacks.
Was i supposed to keep silent about this so you can feel better?

I never stated that. And if I did….I wasnt wrong. But again this thread has nothing to do with this.

Im talking about everytime Zoro landed an attack at King….he was at his weakest. What Zoro couldve done with him when he has flames or Zoan durability…is not the question. Is what he did do against King.

 

[comrade]

Like raisin was portrayed to be a bad fighter, his haki specifically has never been portrayed to be weak

Raisin showed a CoA feat that most of the supernova, tobi roppo, and BMP veterans haven't shown

No, it's a fodder feat. Sai's weaker brother Boo imbued his axe with Haki. Smoker imbues his weapon with Haki. Everyone in the Kuja tribe can harden their arrows.

Stop pretending that hardening one's weapon requires high CoA mastery. Hardening the weapon you have physical contact with =/= Ryuo/Haki Flow, which refers to the Haki flowing beyond your physical form.

 

[Vanlax]

It's not just COA for King.

Zoro vs King's fight had a final clash of attacks.

Zoro cut through King's Imperial Dragon, which should count as part of King's defense since Zoro has to strike the Imperial Dragon before he can reach King.

So poll should be,

King's CoA defense + Magma Level Fire Dragon Attack

VS

Queen’s Branchisaourous + Cyborg defense

 

[Chrono]

It's not just COA for King.

Zoro vs King's fight had a final clash of attacks.

Zoro cut through King's Imperial Dragon, which should count as part of King's defense since Zoro has to strike the Imperial Dragon before he can reach King.

So poll should be,

King's CoA defense + Magma Level Fire Dragon Attack

VS

Queen’s Branchisaourous + Cyborg defense

Thats cutting through flame. That imperial fodder attack quite literally has no durability feats or hype.

 

[Peroroncino]

Thats cutting through flame. That imperial fodder attack quite literally has no durability feats or hype.

just like queen ''cyborg defenses'' then

 

[Finalbeta]

Thats cutting through flame. That imperial fodder attack quite literally has no durability feats or hype.

Fodder attack just because it wasn't directed at Sanjino right mister agenda? :cheers:

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Dino Queen is probably more durable than base King w/ no flame on, but any version of King w/ flame is significantly more durable than any version of Queen.

And the whole reason King was not in his flame mode was because he was forced to block or dodge Zoro's attacks because he realized he could no longer just tank them

I don’t think Base King with flame is significantly more durable than hybrid Queen. Strange as it is Marco was still able to damage him (although shallowly) but it still hurt him