Current Events Common sense obliterates Sanji fans once more! At what point will that fandom use logic and stop twisting facts for fake Ws?

It's showing gaban is on Roger and Rayleigh level which has been reinforced multiple times now. It also shows that gaban and Rayleigh may have had a similar relationship as zoro and sanji. Gaban does hype sanji but sanji fans are running away with the hype. It's understandable as oda hype train for sanji doesn't come around alot. Oda is using gaban to show the relationship of Roger's crew and how the eos sh's will look. Sanji is eventually going to get boosted up to zoro and Luffy's level. Using gaban he's likely getting ad coo and adcoc by eos. Sanji is likely gong to still get massive pu's while zoro and luffy will refine thier current abilities till eos. Imo eos sanji luffy and zoro is going to be like end of pre time skip where zoro and luffy were only a little ahead of sanji with sanji being on thier general level.
They’re all getting massive power up’s. There’s no “Sanji will catch up” the dynamic they’ll have EOS is the dynamic they have now
 
They’re all getting massive power up’s. There’s no “Sanji will catch up” the dynamic they’ll have EOS is the dynamic they have now
No it's not sanji is far behind luffy and zoro now. Sanji can't even concretely beat king or Lucci rn both of which are mid diffs at best to zotoor luffy. He's not even the strongest yc1 level character. Sanji is going to have to get more pu's compared to zoro and luffy. If they all get the same level of pus the gap remains. Only major pu luffy gets is probably gear stacking all of his gear to make a new gear and zoro getting black blades. They already have top tier abilities that they are going to refine to get stronger sanji has to get the top tier abilities so he has to get more than what zoro and luffy already have. Gaban was shown to have fs and adcoc this arc which hypes sanji to get those as well. That right there is 3 pu for sanji what would be the equivalent 3 pu's for luffy and zoro? Those 3 pu won't likely even be the most power sanji is going to get.
 
No it's not sanji is far behind luffy and zoro now. Sanji can't even concretely beat king or Lucci rn both of which are mid diffs at best to zotoor luffy. He's not even the strongest yc1 level character. Sanji is going to have to get more pu's compared to zoro and luffy. If they all get the same level of pus the gap remains. Only major pu luffy gets is probably gear stacking all of his gear to make a new gear and zoro getting black blades. They already have top tier abilities that they are going to refine to get stronger sanji has to get the top tier abilities so he has to get more than what zoro and luffy already have. Gaban was shown to have fs and adcoc this arc which hypes sanji to get those as well. That right there is 3 pu for sanji what would be the equivalent 3 pu's for luffy and zoro? Those 3 pu won't likely even be the most power sanji is going to get.
Yes he can lmao. Sanji is not far from them now, nor will he ever be. Oda set the portrayal of these three. It doesn’t matter what exact power ups they all get Oda will maintain the portrayal. That’s why Oda had King and Queen be portrayed as nigh equals themselves because they are.

EOS Zoro and Sanjis Gap = Current Zoro and Sanjis Gap = Ray and Gaban gap.
 
Yes he can lmao. Sanji is not far from them now, nor will he ever be. Oda set the portrayal of these three. It doesn’t matter what exact power ups they all get Oda will maintain the portrayal. That’s why Oda had King and Queen be portrayed as nigh equals themselves because they are.

EOS Zoro and Sanjis Gap = Current Zoro and Sanjis Gap = Ray and Gaban gap.
You can't use eos portrayal for current. Prime gaban looks yonko level can current sanji beat a yonko since he'll be stronger than prime gaban? Obviously not. What feat show sanji can mid diff king or lucci? King and queen were not nigh equals king was obviously stronger by queen massively hyping him and king showing way better feats.

We know by gaban sanji is likely gaining fs and adcoc. How does sanji gain those abilities yet doesn't get stronger than zoro and sanji if he already at thier level without them? Sanji has to grow more because he farther behind and zoro and luffy are closer to thier eos power than sanji is.
 
You can't use eos portrayal for current. Prime gaban looks yonko level can current sanji beat a yonko since he'll be stronger than prime gaban? Obviously not. What feat show sanji can mid diff king or lucci? King and queen were not nigh equals king was obviously stronger by queen massively hyping him and king showing way better feats.

We know by gaban sanji is likely gaining fs and adcoc. How does sanji gain those abilities yet doesn't get stronger than zoro and sanji if he already at thier level without them? Sanji has to grow more because he farther behind and zoro and luffy are closer to thier eos power than sanji is.
Yes you can when the two are consistently portrayed this way… zoro and Sanji are still always has been, and clearly always will be portrayed as close rivals.

It doesn’t matter what power ups they get this will never ever change. Trying to force it just means you’re ignoring the manga in exchange for your agenda.
 
Yes you can when the two are consistently portrayed this way… zoro and Sanji are still always has been, and clearly always will be portrayed as close rivals.

It doesn’t matter what power ups they get this will never ever change. Trying to force it just means you’re ignoring the manga in exchange for your agenda.
Your whole logic is if Zoro is strong then Sanji is strong by association. Bro just tell us your a Zoro fan and come out of the closet already.
 
Your whole logic is if Zoro is strong then Sanji is strong by association. Bro just tell us your a Zoro fan and come out of the closet already.
I am a Zoro fan? Just like I’m a Sanji fan? I actively like both characters and the dynamic between them. Thats why I don’t try to lie and ignore the manga to downplay either one.
 
Tbh, most people dont realize the implications of the Akainu Kuzan fight to this day. In Oda's mind, that is how these top tier fights go, probably after MF a lot of people started putting Akainu>>Kuzan based on feats, but he debunked this pretty hard. I was going to bring up the fact that people are doing this now with Warcury being a tier above the other Gorosei, but then I remembered people still have Akainu on a different tier from Kuzan, for whatever reason lol. Same with BM vs Kaido being three days. Oda usually doesn't make proper 1v1s for this reason,he likes having distractions/nerfs etc to finish it up quickly. Even Shiki, a random movie villain wasn't allowed to lose 1v1, he had Garp and Sengoku to wrap it up. So if you live in a universe like this, the difference between Rayleigh and Gaban is basically insignificant, both characters are monsters. But irl we could probably conclude, Rayleigh>Gaban based on portrayal
I believe the main takeaway of Oda showing Gaban being spoken of in the same breath as Roger and Rayleigh, flexing max level of all Haki types and being revered by Elbaph, is to show that the Roger Pirates weren’t a one-man show. Why? Because he noticed that his readers forgot Luffy’s crew is built on that exact same template, especially post-Wano brainrot powerlevel junkies that have Luffy lightyears ahead of Zoro or Sanji once he beat the arc's antagonist with infinite help.

If Roger’s two strongest men were nearly equal to him in strength and influence, then it’s outright foolish to assume Luffy is outpacing his own top two by any massive margin. Oda’s making it clear, Luffy doesn’t need to be miles ahead of Zoro or Sanji to become Pirate King, both are rising with him.

This is building up towards One Piss' core thematic pillar that can be interpreted from the Harley Mural: Joy Boy/the Pirate King/MC doesn’t stand alone at the top, he stands with those who can fight alongside him.
 
I believe the main takeaway of Oda showing Gaban being spoken of in the same breath as Roger and Rayleigh, flexing max level of all Haki types and being revered by Elbaph, is to show that the Roger Pirates weren’t a one-man show. Why? Because he noticed that his readers forgot Luffy’s crew is built on that exact same template, especially post-Wano brainrot powerlevel junkies that have Luffy lightyears ahead of Zoro or Sanji once he beat the arc's antagonist with infinite help.

If Roger’s two strongest men were nearly equal to him in strength and influence, then it’s outright foolish to assume Luffy is outpacing his own top two by any massive margin. Oda’s making it clear, Luffy doesn’t need to be miles ahead of Zoro or Sanji to become Pirate King, both are rising with him.

This is building up towards One Piss' core thematic pillar that can be interpreted from the Harley Mural: Joy Boy/the Pirate King/MC doesn’t stand alone at the top, he stands with those who can fight alongside him.
all ts for nika to steal the show :Rofl:
 
I knew it just like the rest of these Sanji fans that constantly try to chain him to Zoro. I deleted all of the irrelevance out of your post.

Worstgen one of the Sanjicult leaders has exited the closet.
Yeah cause being a fan of one character disqualifies you from being a fan of another… thats incredibly stupid.
 
I believe the main takeaway of Oda showing Gaban being spoken of in the same breath as Roger and Rayleigh, flexing max level of all Haki types and being revered by Elbaph, is to show that the Roger Pirates weren’t a one-man show. Why? Because he noticed that his readers forgot Luffy’s crew is built on that exact same template, especially post-Wano brainrot powerlevel junkies that have Luffy lightyears ahead of Zoro or Sanji once he beat the arc's antagonist with infinite help.

If Roger’s two strongest men were nearly equal to him in strength and influence, then it’s outright foolish to assume Luffy is outpacing his own top two by any massive margin. Oda’s making it clear, Luffy doesn’t need to be miles ahead of Zoro or Sanji to become Pirate King, both are rising with him.

This is building up towards One Piss' core thematic pillar that can be interpreted from the Harley Mural: Joy Boy/the Pirate King/MC doesn’t stand alone at the top, he stands with those who can fight alongside him.
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gaban went from being irrelevant to the story and oda doesn't care about him to making 20 threads a week to try and gaslight people hes weaker then rayleigh

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Yeah cause being a fan of one character disqualifies you from being a fan of another… thats incredibly stupid.
I never said that I like Luffy and Zoro
 
I believe the main takeaway of Oda showing Gaban being spoken of in the same breath as Roger and Rayleigh, flexing max level of all Haki types and being revered by Elbaph, is to show that the Roger Pirates weren’t a one-man show. Why? Because he noticed that his readers forgot Luffy’s crew is built on that exact same template, especially post-Wano brainrot powerlevel junkies that have Luffy lightyears ahead of Zoro or Sanji once he beat the arc's antagonist with infinite help.

If Roger’s two strongest men were nearly equal to him in strength and influence, then it’s outright foolish to assume Luffy is outpacing his own top two by any massive margin. Oda’s making it clear, Luffy doesn’t need to be miles ahead of Zoro or Sanji to become Pirate King, both are rising with him.

This is building up towards One Piss' core thematic pillar that can be interpreted from the Harley Mural: Joy Boy/the Pirate King/MC doesn’t stand alone at the top, he stands with those who can fight alongside him.
It’s true that a core of the story is that no one can accomplish their dream alone. Luffy will be no different
 
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