General & Others Compiling a list of Wano Criticisms
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Kaido was apprentice in rocks crew.....which is one of the most hostile crews there are.......they were constantly killing each other...normal apprentice can't even survive imo......the fact he was allowed/part of the crew is a testament to his potential..........whitebeard mentioned to oden how everyone were conquerors also...this was before he ate his devil fruit....
Not really if you hadn't experienced pain all that often in almost 40 years. Remember, God's Valley happened 39 years ago, and that's when Kaido got his devil fruit. It's been much longer than 20 years since Kaido has consistently felt pain.
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Kaido was apprentice in rocks crew.....which is one of the most hostile crews there are.......they were constantly killing each other...normal apprentice can't even survive imo......the fact he was allowed/part of the crew is a testament to his potential..........whitebeard mentioned to oden how everyone were conquerors also...this was before he ate his devil fruit....
He probably did have the potential to become a Monster on his own, but was given a free pass to help him become drastically stronger via his Devil Fruit. In my thread I liken the Big Mom/Kaido/Rocks situation to the Alvida/Coby situation in the beginning of the series. Coby is going on to become strong on his own accord, despite being an utter weakling in the beginning of the series. Kaido could have done the same, but was given a helping hand via his Devil Fruit.
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Kaido was apprentice in rocks crew.....which is one of the most hostile crews there are.......they were constantly killing each other...normal apprentice can't even survive imo......the fact he was allowed/part of the crew is a testament to his potential..........whitebeard mentioned to oden how everyone were conquerors also...this was before he ate his devil fruit....
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Dude kaido has to be a monster even at a young age just to be in rocks crew...base kaido is ridiculously strong...if anything only taking his dragon form into account....it made him weaker....base kaido baby shaked luffy.
Even without DF he could have mastered adv haki as it so easy to learn....20 years ago wounded base kaido using a no name attack K.O.ed oden...oden easily tanked boro breath.....his df hindered him more I will say....If it wasn't for his hybrid I would say his df is a nerf if anything...
He could have eaten much better df. And most of the top-tiers have df--admirals/ 3 yonkos -BM/WB/BB....you can say the same about them too
just saying....
Even without DF he could have mastered adv haki as it so easy to learn....20 years ago wounded base kaido using a no name attack K.O.ed oden...oden easily tanked boro breath.....his df hindered him more I will say....If it wasn't for his hybrid I would say his df is a nerf if anything...
He could have eaten much better df. And most of the top-tiers have df--admirals/ 3 yonkos -BM/WB/BB....you can say the same about them too
just saying....
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- Prison becomes training camp and its double standard. Queen lets Luffy train with fodders while he almost kills Kids and Killer from drowning
- No Strawhat cares that Luffy got captured as if they know Luffy has plot convenience and won't be killed. They should gather and rescue Luffy like Enies Lobbies
- Luffy got teacher to counter Kaido out of the blue
- Enma is a bit much. This sword has the same grade with Wado and Susui, but in reality seems to be much better
- Sanji use RS against his will in order to peek women naked
- Tama's hard counter to beast pirate is lame
- BM amnesia is also lame
- The war has no tension
- Gifters/numbers got one shot. I don't feel that the beast pirate is scary
- No Strawhat cares that Luffy got captured as if they know Luffy has plot convenience and won't be killed. They should gather and rescue Luffy like Enies Lobbies
- Luffy got teacher to counter Kaido out of the blue
- Enma is a bit much. This sword has the same grade with Wado and Susui, but in reality seems to be much better
- Sanji use RS against his will in order to peek women naked
- Tama's hard counter to beast pirate is lame
- BM amnesia is also lame
- The war has no tension
- Gifters/numbers got one shot. I don't feel that the beast pirate is scary
- didn't Queen let them live, same as Luffy? Kidd had broken out and Killer had failed his mission. Those conditions were death. Luffy tried getting out but didn't so it's not the same
- when was Luffy jailed in EL?
- Zoro is much better. First high level fight he's had all timeskip
- Tama was captured and exploited before Luffy saved her so she's more a plot device than a real counter. Now she is allied with three pirates worth 360 million so she's pretty hard to deal with as one would expect. Sugar pulled the same shit and all she had was Booger Man.
- amnesia has been gone for six volumes
- a single Gifter isn't much. An army of them is a problem. Two of them wrecked Sanji in one go
- when was Luffy jailed in EL?
- Zoro is much better. First high level fight he's had all timeskip
- Tama was captured and exploited before Luffy saved her so she's more a plot device than a real counter. Now she is allied with three pirates worth 360 million so she's pretty hard to deal with as one would expect. Sugar pulled the same shit and all she had was Booger Man.
- amnesia has been gone for six volumes
- a single Gifter isn't much. An army of them is a problem. Two of them wrecked Sanji in one go
Dude kaido has to be a monster even at a young age just to be in rocks crew...base kaido is ridiculously strong...if anything only taking his dragon form into account....it made him weaker....base kaido baby shaked luffy.
Even without DF he could have mastered adv haki as it so easy to learn....20 years ago wounded base kaido using a no name attack K.O.ed oden...oden easily tanked boro breath.....his df hindered him more I will say....If it wasn't for his hybrid I would say his df is a nerf if anything...
He could have eaten much better df. And most of the top-tiers have df--admirals/ 3 yonkos -BM/WB/BB....you can say the same about them too just saying....
Even without DF he could have mastered adv haki as it so easy to learn....20 years ago wounded base kaido using a no name attack K.O.ed oden...oden easily tanked boro breath.....his df hindered him more I will say....If it wasn't for his hybrid I would say his df is a nerf if anything...
He could have eaten much better df. And most of the top-tiers have df--admirals/ 3 yonkos -BM/WB/BB....you can say the same about them too
just saying....
- Queen does not put Kids in fighting arena with teacher to train
- I mean what Strawhats did for Robin in EL
- The plot is too focus on Enma. Two yonkos and scabbards are afraid of sword. No one did this to Wado and Sushui even they have the same grade. Zoro is much better is right but I don't know how you use this against my statement.
- Tama direct counter still lame and plot convenient. Whether she got exploited or not is irrelevant. I prefer the war to has more tension and strawhats & alliance struggle through disadvantage (like what CP0 described). Tama just broke that tension out of the blue.
- amnesia situation is in Wano even it happened 6 volume ago. What is your point?
- I mean what Strawhats did for Robin in EL
- The plot is too focus on Enma. Two yonkos and scabbards are afraid of sword. No one did this to Wado and Sushui even they have the same grade. Zoro is much better is right but I don't know how you use this against my statement.
- Tama direct counter still lame and plot convenient. Whether she got exploited or not is irrelevant. I prefer the war to has more tension and strawhats & alliance struggle through disadvantage (like what CP0 described). Tama just broke that tension out of the blue.
- amnesia situation is in Wano even it happened 6 volume ago. What is your point?
