Powers & Abilities Could it be the end of Zoro vs Sanji ?

[Chaves]

Body hardness is Durability. Big Mom and Kaido are durable because of their bodies. WB is not as durable as either because of his body.

One is bullet proof, the other isn't. No need for mental gymnastics when it is so clear

The RS durability is constant for all Vinsmokes. If it is able to take an attack then all the Vins will be able to take that same attack. Sanji's base durability is not as hard as his siblings.


Nice made up numbers. But they are just more opinion than anything.

If he is able to take the attack with his RS then all Vins will be able to do same.... because they also have RS of Sam's durability

It makes no sense. Bullets sink into Whitebeard's skin because he has no exoskeleton and iron armor. This does not mean that vinsmokes have more durability than Whitebeard, they would never sink attacks from the admirals like WB did.

Sanji's natural strength and durability is above vinsmokes, and the suit still adds protection. The damage that Sanji took without damage and without bleeding would probably hurt the vinsmokes a lot.
Sanji putting up with King's attack would be much more worthy of Sanji than of the RS

 

[Monkey D Theories]

That would on the person asserting it to prove that Sanji was using haki in that panel

They don't even have haki IIRC.

I mean, he probably was using haki, there's no reason for him not to. We just usually never see sanji using black hardening.

 

[chacharealsmooth]

I mean, he probably was using haki, there's no reason for him not to. We just usually never see sanji using black hardening.

Didn’t Sanji use it against Daifuku at the end of WCI? It was an anime only moment but it should be considered as canon (imho) (which was used to clear on Oda’s drawing) until Oda says “I have never intended to. It was only because anime preferred to add it.”

 

[Geo]

It makes no sense. Bullets sink into Whitebeard's skin because he has no exoskeleton and iron armor. This does not mean that vinsmokes have more durability than Whitebeard, they would never sink attacks from the admirals like WB did.

Sanji's natural strength and durability is above vinsmokes, and the suit still adds protection. The damage that Sanji took without damage and without bleeding would probably hurt the vinsmokes a lot.
Sanji putting up with King's attack would be much more worthy of Sanji than of the RS

What makes no sense?
It is exactly what it means. Maybe you are two stuck in tier lists to see the difference.

Sanji's natural durability does not make him bullet proof and so his durability is automatically weaker than his brother's. It doesn't mean they are stronger than him..just that they are more durable.

 

[Violent Sanji]

If Sanji tanks the hit ( which is highly unlikely), it means all Vinsmokes can tank that attack too. RS durability is constant across the board.
Just like how all the Vins will be able to tank P1s swipe

It’s still the raid hit plus whatever the durability and endurance of the person wearing it.

 

[Geo]

It’s still the raid hit plus whatever the durability and endurance of the person wearing it.

Yes and durability of base Sanji his siblings since they have the exoskeleton.

 

[Violent Sanji]

Yes and durability of base Sanji his siblings since they have the exoskeleton.

They might have better durability. Although Sanji could have better endurance. In a sense that he can take more damage and fight longer than the vinsmokes. Especially if he is able to survive against king longer than ichiji could against katakuri.

 

[Geo]

They might have better durability. Although Sanji could have better endurance. In a sense that he can take more damage and fight longer than the vinsmokes. Especially if he is able to survive against king longer than ichiji could against katakuri.

Yeah Sanji would definitely have the superior endurance
My argument is mainly on durability

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I mean, he probably was using haki, there's no reason for him not to. We just usually never see sanji using black hardening.

Well probably

 

[Aknolagon]

So I was right about the clash being over and King isn't the opponent of Sanji because it couldn't have been a full fight.
King overpowered Sanji and it seems Sanji was knocked out for few minutes because the whole chapter happened when he was out.
The difference is pretty clear, King is completely on another level.

But the RS really helped Sanji here, that's good to know because it will be good against Queen or someone weaker..
Just need Zoro to fight King and to defeat him, and we will see that there was indeed a big gap between Zoro and Sanji since a long time.

That was obvious but better with recent proofs.

 

[Chaves]

So I was right about the clash being over and King isn't the opponent of Sanji because it couldn't have been a full fight.
King overpowered Sanji and it seems Sanji was knocked out for few minutes because the whole chapter happened when he was out.
The difference is pretty clear, King is completely on another level.

But the RS really helped Sanji here, that's good to know because it will be good against Queen or someone weaker..
Just need Zoro to fight King and to defeat him, and we will see that there was indeed a big gap between Zoro and Sanji since a long time.

That was obvious but better with recent proofs.

Stop the despair. It's getting ugly ...

 

[Chaves]

Why it's only the truth, I didn't invent anything, Oda did that. or could you explain to us what happened in that fight and what sanji was doing after that ?

Well, you like to ignore the fact that Sanji was off guard in that clash, in which King can only land an attack because Sanji was looking away from the rescue mission.
Sanji reappears on the next page where King reappears, can I assume that King was knocked out too?

 

[HA001]

Well, you like to ignore the fact that Sanji was off guard in that clash, in which King can only land an attack because Sanji was looking away from the rescue mission.
Sanji reappears on the next page where King reappears, can I assume that King was knocked out too?

Why didnt sanji move until after franky beat the number ? Considering the numbers were even there when king hit sanji.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Why it's only the truth, I didn't invent anything, Oda did that. or could you explain to us what happened in that fight and what sanji was doing after that ?

He was probably just getting out of the debris while the rest of the chapter happened in like two minutes or less, plus Oda's way of handling co-ocurring events has never been the best and odds are he just came back to action the moment the action required him to do so. He isn't getting KOed from an attack that did next to zero damage, anyways.

 

[HA001]

He was probably just getting out of the debris while the rest of the chapter happened in like two minutes or less, plus Oda's way of handling co-ocurring events has never been the best and odds are he just came back to action the moment the action required him to do so. He isn't getting KOed from an attack that did next to zero damage, anyways.

What ? We see him regain couscousness as he lies prostate and then gets up. With his first words being about momo. Theres no way around it. The numbers arrived after sanji was hit by king yet he didnt even move until one of them fell.

 

[Chaves]

Why didnt sanji move until after franky beat the number ? Considering the numbers were even there when king hit sanji.

Because King only appeared on the same page where the monster was destroyed? Did King get knocked out in the meantime? Where was King?

King and Sanji appear at almost the same moment lol, Sanji was just coming out of the rubble

 

[HA001]

Because King only appeared on the same page where the monster was destroyed? Did King get knocked out in the meantime? Where was King?

King and Sanji appear at almost the same moment lol, Sanji was just coming out of the rubble

King was assembling the bird squad that flew with him. He didnt shit them out.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

What ? We see him regain couscousness as he lies prostate and then gets up. With his first words being about momo. Theres no way around it. The numbers arrived after sanji was hit by king yet he didnt even move until one of them fell.

Of course he's wondering about Momo, he was striked down by an eight meter pteranodon in the middle of a war with no guarantee of Shinobu making it. I'm still asking myself how is he getting KOed by an attack that did nothing to him thanks to the suit even though it was expected to pierce through his stomach. Again, he was just coming back from the impact to the building and absent while the story didn't need him, simple as that.

Luffy was little bit knocked out also but apoo's damage was not that serious, same for Ulti against yamato. The clash was so weird honestly...

Apoo's damage was still a direct explosion from inside, which is something. Right now the only thing we see is that King tried to pierce the suit and he failed, so what damage did he do, exactly, to KO our cook?

 

[HA001]

Of course he's wondering about Momo, he was striked down by an eight meter pteranodon in the middle of a war with no guarantee of Shinobu making it. I'm still asking myself how is he getting KOed by an attack that did nothing to him thanks to the suit even though it was expected to pierce through his stomach. Again, he was just coming back from the impact to the building and absent while the story didn't need him, simple as that.



Apoo's damage was still a direct explosion from inside, which is something. Right now the only thing we see is that King tried to pierce the suit and he failed, so what damage did he do, exactly, to KO our cook?

Flew him into a building duh

 

[Geo]

Of course he's wondering about Momo, he was striked down by an eight meter pteranodon in the middle of a war with no guarantee of Shinobu making it. I'm still asking myself how is he getting KOed by an attack that did nothing to him thanks to the suit even though it was expected to pierce through his stomach. Again, he was just coming back from the impact to the building and absent while the story didn't need him, simple as that.



Apoo's damage was still a direct explosion from inside, which is something. Right now the only thing we see is that King tried to pierce the suit and he failed, so what damage did he do, exactly, to KO our cook?

Shock damage

 

[Finalbeta]

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