Speculations Could Katakuri be Luffy's whitebeard?

[OEKaneki]

Law isn't WB..
BB is actually WB and also Xebec

Law was never and will never be even higher than Kidd. So forget about him being WB of this generation
Top 3 pirates
BB as Xebec or WB
Luffy as Roger
Kidd as Shiki

Law will be 5th below katakuri,

He is/will be to Luffy what Whitebeard was to Roger. Blackbeard is not Whitebeard, he doesn’t even fit the parallel. He and Luffy are not friends even. Blackbeard is also not Xebec, as we know nothing about him, and Blackbeard will never be what he was because Xebec was the dominant force back then. Teach is one of four. There is no more Xebec.

Regardless of your love for Kid, Law is every bit his equal, as noted by the constant portrayal of him as Kid’s equal, and will likely be stronger than him later on.

Law has been paralleled to be Luffy’s Whitebeard based on their status as leaders of the next generation (further proven by their alliance together) and by their relationship.

To say Law hasn’t been built up as the kind of guy that Whitebeard was to Roger is just false.

Katakuri is definitely the WB of Luffy. It makes perfect sense. They already fought against each other and tied. So they are equal too.

“They already fought against each other and tied. So they are equal too.”

You might be confused, I think.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He is/will be to Luffy what Whitebeard was to Roger. Blackbeard is not Whitebeard, he doesn’t even fit the parallel. He and Luffy are not friends even. Blackbeard is also not Xebec, as we know nothing about him, and Blackbeard will never be what he was because Xebec was the dominant force back then. Teach is one of four. There is no more Xebec.

Regardless of your love for Kid, Law is every bit his equal, as noted by the constant portrayal of him as Kid’s equal, and will likely be stronger than him later on.

Law has been paralleled to be Luffy’s Whitebeard based on their status as leaders of the next generation (further proven by their alliance together) and by their relationship.

To say Law hasn’t been built up as the kind of guy that Whitebeard was to Roger is just false.

“They already fought against each other and tied. So they are equal too.”

You might be confused, I think.

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"To say Law hasn’t been built up as the kind of guy that Whitebeard was to Roger is just false."
he hasnt .
roger was at par with wb acc to an ex crewmate of his. he was also the strongest man in the world before roger died. Just because luffy and law are allies now does not mean him and whitebeard are parallels. There is no Indication roger and wb worked together to take down a specific goal. Against doflamingo , law looked a step behind and the gap should continue to get bigger as luffy continues to grow while law tackles the likes of hawkins. We need to stop equating every single person in the newer gen to the older generation.

Mind buggling you think law has a more valid claim to be the wb of this generation than teach does to xebec. The evil D, the guy whose ship is named xebec, the one with based on the exact same island as rocks,holds the prob the strongest logia and paramecia?
He is a dominant force, the world doesnt know it yet. Imu shredding both his picture and luffy's tells you who are the two real rivals here.

 

[Finalbeta]

It shall be Kidd

 

[Erkan12]

Katakuri doesn't have the potential to improve that high.

He was never close to Big mom in power, there is too much difference in power.

As for their ambition, WB had never a great ambition, he just wanted a family, but Katakuri didn't even show that ambition to create his own family. He was just protecting his siblings. Both in terms of power and ambition, I would say no.

 

[L o g i a]

No. Just no.

It's Teach/Kid/Law

 

[OEKaneki]

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"To say Law hasn’t been built up as the kind of guy that Whitebeard was to Roger is just false."
he hasnt .
roger was at par with wb acc to an ex crewmate of his. he was also the strongest man in the world before roger died. Just because luffy and law are allies now does not mean him and whitebeard are parallels. There is no Indication roger and wb worked together to take down a specific goal. Against doflamingo , law looked a step behind and the gap should continue to get bigger as luffy continues to grow while law tackles the likes of hawkins. We need to stop equating every single person in the newer gen to the older generation.

Mind buggling you think law has a more valid claim to be the wb of this generation than teach does to xebec. The evil D, the guy whose ship is named xebec, the one with based on the exact same island as rocks,holds the prob the strongest logia and paramecia?
He is a dominant force, the world doesnt know it yet. Imu shredding both his picture and luffy's tells you who are the two real rivals here.

Luffy and Law are allies and portrayed as being the two of the top dogs in the next generation. That, plus the fact that Teach and Kid do not resemble Whitebeard himself, and also don't have the relationship that Law has with Luffy (that resembles the relationship Roger had with Whitebeard based on the little that we know).

Personally, I take the loss to Doflamingo with a grain of salt. Law was completely out of his element if you look at his character. Law is a calm, cool, collected person, and because of the personal tie with Doflamingo and Corazon, he was emotional and unstable. I think that in a vacuum, of someone vs similar strength, Law would put up a much better fight and probably win. It's similar to how Luffy loses the first encounter because he's typically out of his element or something is off. I don't think he's that much further back from Luffy, and we'll see that strength in Wano. Law is going to be one of the main fighters right next to Luffy when they take on Kaido. The dynamic with Luffy is what qualifies him as Luffy's Whitebeard. The strength comes later. And by the way, that was true of even Whitebeard. Whitebeard watched as Garp and Roger beat his captain, proof that he wasn't initially as strong as Roger, but then caught up. He doesn't need to be as strong immediately. There's room to grow. Law is that guy to Luffy.

It's really not mind boggling. Xebec was a standalone figure that ruled the seas with an iron fist. Teach is not that. He is one of four rulers, he is not the top dog of the generation, he does not have those on his crew that will go on to be the strongest figures of the next generation, and he's not going to get beat by the future strongest pirate and marine. The dynamic isn't even remotely similar.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Blackbeard is the closest thing to such.

And if he doesn't die he will be even if jailed.

Kidd or Law are not even close to such word, they were created last minute for godsake...
If they reach EoS alive it would be generous.

 

[Finalbeta]

No. Just no.

It's Teach/Kid/Law

Teach sounds like more of a hate-to-hate relationship

 

[L o g i a]

Teach sounds like more of a hate-to-hate relationship

Yet he is symbolically Luffy's nemesis

It depends if we look at WB as a rival or as a nemesis - there's a big difference

Nemesis - Teach
Rival - one of Law and Kidd

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Luffy and Law are allies and portrayed as being the two of the top dogs in the next generation. That, plus the fact that Teach and Kid do not resemble Whitebeard himself, and also don't have the relationship that Law has with Luffy (that resembles the relationship Roger had with Whitebeard based on the little that we know).

Personally, I take the loss to Doflamingo with a grain of salt. Law was completely out of his element if you look at his character. Law is a calm, cool, collected person, and because of the personal tie with Doflamingo and Corazon, he was emotional and unstable. I think that in a vacuum, of someone vs similar strength, Law would put up a much better fight and probably win. It's similar to how Luffy loses the first encounter because he's typically out of his element or something is off. I don't think he's that much further back from Luffy, and we'll see that strength in Wano. Law is going to be one of the main fighters right next to Luffy when they take on Kaido. The dynamic with Luffy is what qualifies him as Luffy's Whitebeard. The strength comes later. And by the way, that was true of even Whitebeard. Whitebeard watched as Garp and Roger beat his captain, proof that he wasn't initially as strong as Roger, but then caught up. He doesn't need to be as strong immediately. There's room to grow. Law is that guy to Luffy.

It's really not mind boggling. Xebec was a standalone figure that ruled the seas with an iron fist. Teach is not that. He is one of four rulers, he is not the top dog of the generation, he does not have those on his crew that will go on to be the strongest figures of the next generation, and he's not going to get beat by the future strongest pirate and marine. The dynamic isn't even remotely similar.

"Xebec was a standalone figure that ruled the seas with an iron fist."


"Law is going to be one of the main fighters right next to Luffy when they take on Kaido. The dynamic with Luffy is what qualifies him as Luffy's Whitebeard. The strength comes later. "
an assumption that is plausible but not confirmed. I am not here to argue about headcanons but what has been confirmed in the story.
The dynamic between luffy and law is an alliance and not a rivalry, the one between roger and wb was not an "alliance". Drinking sake together does not mean they are allies with the same goal. At no point did roger and wb team up in the canon story as of yet so even if law does so against kaido , it really isnt a valid comparison.
Wb was strong and wanted a family so his goals did not directly oppose roger's, thats it. when roger passed , he was the clear favorite for pk.
amazing you give the benefit off the doubt to law but dont apply the same logic as per BB's dominance which is coming very very soon. what do you think happens after kaido goes down and prob BM, who rules the seas? shanks? lmao .Probably why shanks is at the gorosei's door right now. law being a D and wb not being one is another gap in people's comparison of both law and wb. the old gen doesnt always have to be parallel to the newer gen for every character. There's not always a new shiki, garp, big mom, wb. He's just law.

 

[Finalbeta]

Yet he is symbolically Luffy's nemesis

It depends if we look at WB as a rival or as a nemesis - there's a big difference

Nemesis - Teach
Rival - one of Law and Kidd

Yes

 

[Ravagerblade]

Its doubtful seeing as how Katakuri is basically a generation or so away from him, Luffy would probably get one his own age group.

 

[Lunaria]

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"To say Law hasn’t been built up as the kind of guy that Whitebeard was to Roger is just false."
he hasnt .
roger was at par with wb acc to an ex crewmate of his. he was also the strongest man in the world before roger died. Just because luffy and law are allies now does not mean him and whitebeard are parallels. There is no Indication roger and wb worked together to take down a specific goal. Against doflamingo , law looked a step behind and the gap should continue to get bigger as luffy continues to grow while law tackles the likes of hawkins. We need to stop equating every single person in the newer gen to the older generation.

Mind buggling you think law has a more valid claim to be the wb of this generation than teach does to xebec. The evil D, the guy whose ship is named xebec, the one with based on the exact same island as rocks,holds the prob the strongest logia and paramecia?
He is a dominant force, the world doesnt know it yet. Imu shredding both his picture and luffy's tells you who are the two real rivals here.

To be fair, Luffy needs to grow stronger at a faster pace because he’s the main character. It doesn’t mean Law can’t be eventually his equal, he has plenty of room (pun intended) to grow.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

To be fair, Luffy needs to grow stronger at a faster pace because he’s the main character. It doesn’t mean Law can’t be eventually his equal, he has plenty of room (pun intended) to grow.

then for that to happen you would have to think he grows at a faster rate than luffy because right now he's behind.
cant see that happening if luffy ends up contributing more to kaido's defeat
and defeating bb
what other opportunities/opponents does law have to reach said level.
big mom?
its a forced parallel at this point
law has no link to wb at all.

 

[Lunaria]

then for that to happen you would have to think he grows at a faster rate than luffy because right now he's behind.
cant see that happening if luffy ends up contributing more to kaido's defeat
and defeating bb
what other opportunities/opponents does law have to reach said level.
big mom?
its a forced parallel at this point
law has no link to wb at all.

He doesn’t have to do it on panel since he’s just a secondary character. If he reaches Yonko level, we most likely won’t see it happen. Oda doesn’t have the time to show everyone’s progression.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

He doesn’t have to do it on panel since he’s just a secondary character. If he reaches Yonko level, we most likely won’t see it happen. Oda doesn’t have the time to show everyone’s progression.

reaches yonko level fighting who?
beating who?
sure he doesnt have to show us anything but there's generally a brief of things that happened.
bb reaching yonko status after taking on marco for example.
luffy ending the story is going to be a notch above "yonko level" as prime wb and roger was. I dont see law reaching that regardless of whether he's on panel or off panel.
again
his story, history, objective has no similarity to wb
its a forced parallel.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Nah, Kata is like 48 years old right now. He could become a Yonko in the future but Luffy's Whitebeard should be Kid or Law.

 

[Dark Hound]

Katakuri was literally a last minute character that Oda used to give Luffy a power up. I've been saying this ever since I saw Oda retconning his DF, and had no idea what his DF was.

This was the original Katakuri:

User of the "Powder Powder no Mi" and a swordsman.

Oda knew Luffy needed a few power ups to beat Kaido, so he made up a character with FS so Luffy could copy him.

Like I've been saying for years, Katakuri/Cracker are just Blueno/Rob Lucci of the New World. The only difference is Oda gave Luffy the power up at the end of the arc in WCI.

Oda also created supernovas last minute and didn’t even know Law would be important at all

Like you see it doesn’t mean jack

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Btw Luffy doesn’t the same rival parallels as Roger

Kid is Shiki

Law is too boring to be a WB

 

[Lunaria]

reaches yonko level fighting who?
beating who?
sure he doesnt have to show us anything but there's generally a brief of things that happened.
bb reaching yonko status after taking on marco for example.
luffy ending the story is going to be a notch above "yonko level" as prime wb and roger was. I dont see law reaching that regardless of whether he's on panel or off panel.
again
his story, history, objective has no similarity to wb
its a forced parallel.

I don’t think it’s a forced parallel. Law is the future PK’s rival but he’s also his friend. They’re not supposed to be friends but they still like and respect each other, like Whitebeard and Roger. Law has one of the most powerful Paramecia, just like WB. Despite being a pirate, Law isn’t interested in the One Piece but he’s an important character in the grand scheme of things, like WB. Both seem scary and ruthless at times but they have a big heart. Both are orphans. Law doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of WB for the parallel to work.

I don’t know who he could fight to reach Yonko level, it’s up to Oda. But I think you’re overthinking this. There’s no established rule about how much a character can grow stronger and who he should fight to reach a certain level.

Besides, Law’s DF is much more deadly and powerful than Luffy’s. He literally has one of the most broken DFs. The only reason Luffy is ahead is because he’s more talented. So it’s not far fetched to suppose Law could get close to Luffy’s level through training.

Mind you, I’m not saying Law will reach Yonko level. I’m saying it’s a sensible speculation.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Luffy's Whitebeard parallel is Blackbeard. He'll be in second place this generation. Nothing suggest Law and Kid will be that.

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Despite being a pirate, Law isn’t interested in the One Piece but he’s an important character in the grand scheme of things, like WB. Both seem scary and ruthless at times but they have a big heart. Both are orphans. Law doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of WB for the parallel to work.

These could apply to Sugar.

Despite being a pirate, Law isn’t interested in the One Piece but he’s an important character in the grand scheme of things, like WB.

Sugar turned important people into toys and doesn't want to be PK.

Both seem scary and ruthless at times but they have a big heart.

Turning people into toys and erasing them from history, that's ruthless. She's Doffy's underling who values family, so she must have a big heart in some form.

Both are orphans.

Just like Sugar.

Law doesn’t have to be a carbon copy of WB for the parallel to work.

Neither does Sugar.