Speculations Could Sanji have used Ifrit Jambe without Exoskeleton?..

[ConquistadoR]

That's just what the given Narrative in that situation though..

Oden can survive 1 hour in boiling oil.. He was dead no matter what, but the point is characters can overcome injuries that would normally not be possible.. I.E. Zoro at the end of Thriller Bark.. I need to think of other cases in One Piece.. However usually people don't get cut in half and things like that..

Oda has his narratives when it comes to plot moments, i don't really care.
Besides, he can't really draw someone virtually cut into two halfs in a manga for kids - the worst he went was removing Half of Whitebeard's head v. Akainu or allowing Doflamingo to chop off limbs of Law or Oars Jr. effortlessly.

But that doesn't change what Sanji himself said.

"If I pair the Exoskeleton Protection with my Armament Haki Training, my legs should be able to stand Flames much hotter than Before!"

Basically pre-Exoskeleton, with just his CoA = Diable Jambe.
After Exoskeleton, with his CoA = Ifrit Jambe.

 

[Rootbeer]

Oda has his narratives when it comes to plot moments, i don't really care.
Besides, he can't really draw someone virtually cut into two halfs in a manga for kids - the worst he went was removing Half of Whitebeard's head v. Akainu or allowing Doflamingo to chop off limbs of Law or Oars Jr. effortlessly.

But that doesn't change what Sanji himself said.

"If I pair the Exoskeleton Protection with my Armament Haki Training, my legs should be able to stand Flames much hotter than Before!"

Basically pre-Exoskeleton, with just his CoA = Diable Jambe.
After Exoskeleton, with his CoA = Ifrit Jambe.

What if, Sanji just get a burnt mark for a week and then he's good to go..

Like Luffy can eat as big as a balloon and digest most of it in minutes..
I don't think it'd be catastrophic to use Ifrit Jambe without Exoskeleton if it's not for a Hard diff fight lenght?..
It never mentioned how much damage if any Sanji would get if he did Ifrit Jambe without his body armor either..

By the way, he can use Diable Jambe without CoA..
So he has a natural resistance for fire and heat or that was pretimeskip CoA..

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Basically Ifrit can only be used when Sanji's defense is at certain number, hence why he needs both Haki & Exoskeleton.

So for example, 50 from Haki and 50 from Exo. A 100 defense will allow Ifrit to not burn him.

Sanji can ignite Ifrit without Haki or Exoskeleton, only if they can compensate for the other. For example, Sanji having stronger CoA, or Exoskeleton got upgraded by Vegapunk.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

He definitely could've. He's been working on his coa to handle higher heat before the exo anyways.

Remember the star shaped dj? It's likely a halfway point to blue flames in my personal opinion

Tho destroying the rs and accepting his role on luffys crew along with seeing queen using vinsmoke powers and accepting help from his friends...are likely the emotional triggers that allowed his heat to reach such Temps.

You have the best avi in this forum lol

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Sanji himself said the reason why he could use IJ was because of exoskeleton+ his haki getting stronger.

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Whatever jambe when sanji combines the hottest flames + conqueror coating

 

[BillSlipton]

You have the best avi in this forum lol

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Sanji himself said the reason why he could use IJ was because of exoskeleton+ his haki getting stronger.

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Whatever jambe when sanji combines the hottest flames + conqueror coating

Thanks I made it myself

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

No.

 

[Kiiro]

Well, he can but it will be kamikaze.
More hotter will burn him, more power will
break his bones, that is logical even in real life,
people who do boxing needs to cover their
hands since their strength can damage them in
each hit.

 

[Herrera95]

When Zoro mentions to himself how he should stabilize Enma, and that if he keeps exuding this amount of Haki it will kill him.. Then he says that no that's how it should be, he need to put in life on the line to Master Enma.. He's done it many times, at the end of thriller Bark or Starving for a whole week, standing between life and death in Alabasta.. Zoro's whole Journey has been overcoming and overwhelming death up till Wano..

Dude Enma has nothing to do with CoC wtf? Enma is just sucking Zoro haki nothing more.

He was Crawling out of the hole at the end.. Stamina and CoA are one another..

What your point? I said he had 10min to rest. That's why he could stand. Just like Katakuri that dropped after Luffy after their final clash.

No i mean Enies Lobby fight, he couldn't move at all, then got back up that's CoC..

No it is not. When fight was over he couldn't move for real. And things were still a mess and he had to do something to save his crew. When Kaido one-shotted Luffy he couldn' stand up but could use his Coc against his prisioners. It is way different.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

I think he could have but he would have significantly damaged his leg.. He could still have gone beyond
since he has CoC potential.. He can overcome death like Luffy, Zoro and Usopp..

And the damage would have healed like Zoro after a hard fight..

It's just that Oda won't give him an extreme diff fight..

He can if he had Goated Advanced CoA

 

[Rootbeer]

Dude Enma has nothing to do with CoC wtf? Enma is just sucking Zoro haki nothing more.

CoC is the reason Zoro was able to Stabilize Enma by feeding it to the Blade..

What your point? I said he had 10min to rest. That's why he could stand. Just like Katakuri that dropped after Luffy after their final clash.

He was still drained of Stamina and CoA, runnning on CoC..

No it is not. When fight was over he couldn't move for real. And things were still a mess and he had to do something to save his crew. When Kaido one-shotted Luffy he couldn' stand up but could use his Coc against his prisioners. It is way different.

Before he ended Lucci, he couldn't move for real, his spirit was wavering cause he was missing a Nakama, so he was able to bypass his state with CoC resolve and finish the fight.. Same thing when Luffy was poisoned by Crocodile of overide it with cheer willpower relying on his CoC resolve.. Same with any fight where he has lost way too much blood and he should be down instead of staying.. They are literally tons of instance when characters are overcoming and overwhelming death..

 

[zzShinichi]

Wow Rootbeer is expanding his expertise into exoskeleton

 

[Herrera95]

CoC is the reason Zoro was able to Stabilize Enma by feeding it to the Blade..

No it is not. What you mean by stabilize? Zoro has stabilized Enma since after his first attack with it. Thing is he was holding back while using it so he wouldn't burn his stamina so quickly. He already had CoC coating since he used scarred Kaido. But he didn't used against King because he was holding back. When he decides to use everything he had against King(same as he did with Asura on Kaido) he unleashed his KoH mode.

He was still drained of Stamina and CoA, runnning on CoC..

This doesn't exist. I already gave you examples of him having CoC but not standing up.

Before he ended Lucci, he couldn't move for real, his spirit was wavering cause he was missing a Nakama, so he was able to bypass his state with CoC resolve and finish the fight.. Same thing when Luffy was poisoned by Crocodile of overide it with cheer willpower relying on his CoC resolve.. Same with any fight where he has lost way too much blood and he should be down instead of staying.. They are literally tons of instance when characters are overcoming and overwhelming death..

Yes he could move. His mental was limiting his body. Then Usopp came in and helped him mentally keep fighting. Only when he won over Lucci then his body truly couldn't move even if his mind wanted to.

This has nothing to do with CoC. Either Lucci or Crocodile. Kin'emon doesn't have CoC and is doing similar feats against Kaido to protect Momonosuke.

 

[zenox]

And ?

 

[Rootbeer]

And ?

If Zoro didn't get cleaved in 2 then Sanji's burn wouldn't be fatal or a real issue..

No it is not. What you mean by stabilize? Zoro has stabilized Enma since after his first attack with it. Thing is he was holding back while using it so he wouldn't burn his stamina so quickly. He already had CoC coating since he used scarred Kaido. But he didn't used against King because he was holding back. When he decides to use everything he had against King(same as he did with Asura on Kaido) he unleashed his KoH mode.

Enma went from an unstable state of purple smoke to when Harmonised a split even green smoke and Black CoA lightning..

AdCoC has nothing to do with Swordsmanship, it's around your body pressuring your imediate space wheter you hold a sword or not..
Ashura is mainly CoA with a special ability to cut Demons/ Oni..

This doesn't exist. I already gave you examples of him having CoC but not standing up.

When you're standing straight up on willpower alone having depleted your CoA Haki physical power, then it's CoC.. You just want to deny for the sake of denying..

Yes he could move. His mental was limiting his body. Then Usopp came in and helped him mentally keep fighting. Only when he won over Lucci then his body truly couldn't move even if his mind wanted to.

This has nothing to do with CoC. Either Lucci or Crocodile. Kin'emon doesn't have CoC and is doing similar feats against Kaido to protect Momonosuke.

The mental state is literally a person's spirit and directly related to CoC.. You don't need to have CoC to exhibit CoC attributes.. It's all about character Growth and Luffy, Zoro were on that personal path since the beginning of the series..

 

[SkySanji]

He probably could've, but the cost wouldn't make it worth it

All the Zoro bros saying his leg would melt or something clearly don't understand that that's hyping Sanji's IJ insanely if the sheer heat can melt the limbs of someone who is already ridiculously resistant to high temperatures lol

 

[Seatonnes]

did no one read the manga?

 

[Embers Kaios]

He could but with great power comes great catastrophe

Sanji would be just like me in a way
Your body develops a random allergy then starts attacking itself

Then again maybe that wasn’t the best comparison or example…….what I mean is he’d burn himself pretty damn badly

 

[zenox]

If Zoro didn't get cleaved in 2 then Sanji's burn wouldn't be fatal or a real issue..



Enma went from an unstable state of purple smoke to when Harmonised a split even green smoke and Black CoA lightning..

AdCoC has nothing to do with Swordsmanship, it's around your body pressuring your imediate space wheter you hold a sword or not..
Ashura is mainly CoA with a special ability to cut Demons/ Oni..


When you're standing straight up on willpower alone having depleted your CoA Haki physical power, then it's CoC.. You just want to deny for the sake of denying..




The mental state is literally a person's spirit and directly related to CoC.. You don't need to have CoC to exhibit CoC attributes.. It's all about character Growth and Luffy, Zoro were on that personal path since the beginning of the series..

It’s like saying sanji won’t be melted to death by akainu cause zoro didn’t get sliced to bits by mr1
Just how retarded can u be

 

[Herrera95]

Enma went from an unstable state of purple smoke to when Harmonised a split even green smoke and Black CoA lightning..

AdCoC has nothing to do with Swordsmanship, it's around your body pressuring your imediate space wheter you hold a sword or not..
Ashura is mainly CoA with a special ability to cut Demons/ Oni..

Purple or green doesn't make a difference. Enma was stable. Unstable was when it shrinked his arm.

CoC coating has nothing to do with swordsmanship that's why it has nothing to do with Enma.

Where the hell you took that Asura is a special ability to cut Demons/Oni??? Zoro first used against Kaku and than with Pacifista. Not demons or onis.

Asura on Kaido had CoC coating because it scarred Kaido. Attacks without it are too shallow on him as stated by Luffy.

When you're standing straight up on willpower alone having depleted your CoA Haki physical power, then it's CoC.. You just want to deny for the sake of denying..

Luffy was never able to stand up after running out of G4. Kaido even bited him and Zoro had to save him. How the fuck are you trying to make this nonsense argument? Everytime Luffy is running out of G4 which means he ran out of CoA he can barely move. He needs 10min to rest to move normal again. That's what he did against Katakuri. He ran out of CoA rested 10 min and then he could move. He wasn't standing on CoC willpower or whatever bullshit you are making up. He recovered the tiny bit of CoA he needed.

The mental state is literally a person's spirit and directly related to CoC.. You don't need to have CoC to exhibit CoC attributes.. It's all about character Growth and Luffy, Zoro were on that personal path since the beginning of the series..

No is not CoC. Everyone has their mental state. As I said Kin'emon is doing similar feats as Luffy but he doesn't have CoC.

 

[kurwa]

Yes

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