General & Others Could ZKK help save tension in future arcs

[Monkey D Theories]

So while I did have some doubts after 1035, I'm much more accepting of ZKK than I have been in the past. One of the biggest issues I have had with this theory was the issue of ZKK overshadowing Luffy's win.

But the question I want to pose is, does Luffy really deserve a clean win against kaido? Now its no doubt that wano is supposed to mark Luffy's ascent into the top tiers. However, kaido is something different. Kaido is the world's strongest creature and if Luffy were to truly surpass kaido this arc, it would greatly diminish the tension of future arcs.
In order for Akainu and blackbeard to be good villains, Oda will have to introduce a massive power creep. And lets not forget Luffy's mentor figures, Shanks and Dragon. What impact will they have if Luffy has already surpassed them by the time they meet?

In my opinion, its simply early for Luffy to surpass kaido. Obviously Luffy should win, to prove he will be the next pirate king and the next joyboy, but I think ZKK downplaying Luffy's win could actually be a good thing.

Now the admirals will still be a threat and Luffy might need to fight hard to defeat akainu.

 

[Herrera95]

It's already early to Luffy 1v1 Kaido given how Oda dirty wrote Luffy since WCI.

But I don't seen nothing relating ZKK to future arcs tension. If you mean zoro and Luffy fighting Kaido would be better but that doesn't seem the case.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

No lol

 

[Monkey D Theories]

It's already early to Luffy 1v1 Kaido given how Oda dirty wrote Luffy since WCI.

But I don't seen nothing relating ZKK to future arcs tension. If you mean zoro and Luffy fighting Kaido would be better but that doesn't seem the case.

If Luffy needs Zoro to kill kaido, it means he hasn't truly surpassed kaido, meaning the admirals are still a threat to him

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Even if ZKK happens, it doesn't change the fact that Kinemon, Kiku, Pound, Pell, etc. are all still alive.

 

[Herrera95]

If Luffy needs Zoro to kill kaido, it means he hasn't truly surpassed kaido, meaning the admirals are still a threat to him

ZKK and Luffy beating Kaido are different things. That's my point.

 

[zzShinichi]

Damn we have like 4-5 ZKK threads on the first page alone.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

Damn we have like 4-5 ZKK threads on the first page alone.

cause they fear zkk happening in their minds.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

No. Cause then why doesn’t every arc end with Zoro after this.

This is Luffys story and always will be. Luffy needs to beat Kaido for himself and for his dream. A victory where someone else finishes the enemy is not one he deserves.

Before Kaido and Luffys current one v one began we were told that Kaido was weakened. Kaidos not as strong currently as he normally is.

 

[Adamxero]

So Zoro gets the props and Luffy doesn't and that makes sense to you?

 

[Vongola Primo]

Luffy is the main character.

 

[Kurozumi mugiwara44]

 

[draganax]

it's about time luffy get considered a top tier initiate, we'll basically be at the endgame after wano ends.
it took 15 people to weaken kaido just so luffy can fight him on equal footings, so i don't think luffy will surpass him anytime soon.
the tension is still pretty high considering luffy fights his next opponents in a clean 1v1 from start to finish.
ZKK has nothing to do with saving the tension, but rather it's necessary for sending a message about the capacity of swordsmen, and restoring the reputation of the samurai as mighty warriors to be feared, ryuma did it in the past and zoro will do it in the present.

 

[Tyronejenkins]

This is Yonkotardation. Blackbeard could easily far surpass Kaido, and with introduction of IM theres likely other creatures that are above Kaido. One Piece is near end stage, luffy is gonna beat a yonko with like 1-2 major antagonists left.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Shanks, Dragon and Akainu are definitely stronger than kaido .

Kaido has lost previously so he is not best of the best.

 

[draganax]

based on king's recent flashback we can say:
- kaido was the strongest before the golden age of pirates even started
- mihawk was famous before the golden age of pirates even started
- dragon was starting to be considered a threat only 8 years ago
- shanks gained fame after his duel against mihawk, and only become a yonko 6 years ago
- blackbeard only became a yonko 1 year ago.

nobody in the story has ever come close to the strength portrayal of kaido, it took 15 powerful warriors to bring him down ffs, imo the tension has peaked in kaido.

the rest of the top tiers will be a massive threat in a 1v1 situation.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

cause they fear zkk happening in their minds.

???

this is a pro-zkk thread

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

You want to create tension for Future Arcs, then you do it by having the Good guys side suffer casualties, not by killing off an antagonist. Killing Kaido pretty much sets a bar from here to EoS that Oda will never deliver on. If he kills Kaido, then anything less than a death of all future main antagonists would be extremely underwhelming.

 

[Finalbeta]

Well defeating Kaido by the hand of novices in the New World is gonna deeply influence the balance of the world, whereas if it was another yonko that would have felt more ordinary.

 

[HA001]

You want to create tension for Future Arcs, then you do it by having the Good guys side suffer casualties, not by killing off an antagonist. Killing Kaido pretty much sets a bar from here to EoS that Oda will never deliver on. If he kills Kaido, then anything less than a death of all future main antagonists would be extremely underwhelming.

All yonko are dying bar maybe meme who will be perma retarded so there's no worries there.