General & Others Could ZKK help save tension in future arcs
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the only way Oda can save the tension of future arcs is by having Kaido lose in a team fight
also Oda need to move away from making the strength of his villains be about " they have a strong punch and good endurance" , that's boring abd the reader won't feel any tension because in his mind Luffy can somehow just develope a stronger punch and defeat him and that's it
an antagonist always need to have a unique ability or trait that seems impossible to bypass , thats what will make the reader keep guessing and actually consider the villain a threat
also Oda need to move away from making the strength of his villains be about " they have a strong punch and good endurance" , that's boring abd the reader won't feel any tension because in his mind Luffy can somehow just develope a stronger punch and defeat him and that's it
an antagonist always need to have a unique ability or trait that seems impossible to bypass , thats what will make the reader keep guessing and actually consider the villain a threat
i'm not against ZKK but i dont really think Oda is dare enough to kill such a big character like Kaido in the first place he dont even dare to kill Pond, Mr. 2 and Pell when they supposed to die protecting something they consider precious..
but if he dies... all i see is he will die memorably, maybe he would accept that Luffy is a Joyboy, and he's not. Then try protecting Wano from WG as farewell gifts, since i dont see the possible route for WG/CP0 to leave Wano alone after this. its cringe indeed, but thats what i feel
but if he dies... all i see is he will die memorably, maybe he would accept that Luffy is a Joyboy, and he's not. Then try protecting Wano from WG as farewell gifts, since i dont see the possible route for WG/CP0 to leave Wano alone after this. its cringe indeed, but thats what i feel
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The train of thought regarding the reduced tension for future arcs can always be handled with having BB also surpass both Luffy and Kaidou in overall strength, be it by DF hax or some weird CoC or other powers. Also theres always Imu who is in my opinion just guaranteed to be the most powerful existence ever.
On the other side, if Luffy doesnt surpass Kaidou, it means he actually loses the battle for PK, and being unworthy to attain that title. Imo this is the worst, it denies the entire concept of strength aspect of PK, while in shonen's concept we recognize that ultimate powerlevel is practically the ultimate result we want to have for the MC. If Oda betray this and dilute Luffy's ultimate achievement, surpassing the WSC, by also giving the similar even maybe overshadowing level of powerlevel accomplishment to someone else, its gonna be a betrayal to the very concept of shonen itself, which i'm strongly believe will never happen.
So its reduced tension factor which can be tweaked by powerlevel progression of villains, versus being unworthy in the decisive battle for PK. Well i know exactly which one i'm disagreeing with the most.
On the other side, if Luffy doesnt surpass Kaidou, it means he actually loses the battle for PK, and being unworthy to attain that title. Imo this is the worst, it denies the entire concept of strength aspect of PK, while in shonen's concept we recognize that ultimate powerlevel is practically the ultimate result we want to have for the MC. If Oda betray this and dilute Luffy's ultimate achievement, surpassing the WSC, by also giving the similar even maybe overshadowing level of powerlevel accomplishment to someone else, its gonna be a betrayal to the very concept of shonen itself, which i'm strongly believe will never happen.
So its reduced tension factor which can be tweaked by powerlevel progression of villains, versus being unworthy in the decisive battle for PK. Well i know exactly which one i'm disagreeing with the most.
In what way it is clean when Kaidou has been gangbanged by 17 people continuously? And moreover Luffy matching Kaidou in power doesn't mean anything when his stamina and endurance is fodder tier. On contrary, it is Kid and Law who is facing Bigmom (near equal to Kaidou) who hasn't even injured or even wounded on the rooftop. If anything, Kid and Law going to leap more than Luffy as Kaidou is already exhausted.
Luffy is more nerfed than Kaido, "barely standing" according to Yamato.
Kaido was just starting to show signs of damage, that Yamato could only tell from his passive ability weakening SLIGHTLY, Yamato directly could see Luffy was barely standing and nerfed from his previous knockouts that happened when he was weaker than he currently is and wouldn't have happened if Luffy knew what he knows now.
Kaido was just starting to show signs of damage, that Yamato could only tell from his passive ability weakening SLIGHTLY, Yamato directly could see Luffy was barely standing and nerfed from his previous knockouts that happened when he was weaker than he currently is and wouldn't have happened if Luffy knew what he knows now.
Luffy went from being UNABLE TO MOVE due to fatigue to being able to fight a Yonko for a short period of time.
Luffy doesn't have a magical zoan fruit like Kaido to help him out. (even Page One and Yamato were hyped solely for their vastly inferior fruits)
The context of Yamato referencing Kaido's fatigue was his passive ability starting to weaken slightly, not saying that he was worse off than Luffy.
She explicitly said Luffy was barely standing and hyping how noble it was for Luffy to be taking Wano on his back like that.
Luffy doesn't have a magical zoan fruit like Kaido to help him out. (even Page One and Yamato were hyped solely for their vastly inferior fruits)
The context of Yamato referencing Kaido's fatigue was his passive ability starting to weaken slightly, not saying that he was worse off than Luffy.
She explicitly said Luffy was barely standing and hyping how noble it was for Luffy to be taking Wano on his back like that.