Character Discussion Current Gen Parallels/Benchmarks/Similarities

Blazing Lion

Blazing Lion

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#41
#41
kekaro said:
I know the magazine I just don't take secondary material that serious if I a absoulelty don't need to this includes vivre cards
If it's not from odas mouth or in the manga/and specifically form him I don't care
This is also why I don't take anything seriously regarding coloring or statement from vivre cards too, who are " directly supervised by oda to clarify the manga" who had more errors than the actual manga now :willight:if it's additional fluff sure, I never take it as a clarifier tho

Same for the ace novel which is "canon" that makes 0 sense :Shadow_Unimpressed:
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Then your point seems reasonable if you are not giving weight to these materials. I think OP is such a vast thing that to fully experience and enjoy the supplementary material is a must. Oda even hinted this in the SBS about the earlier databooks or VCs. And I think they are important because IIRC Ace and Murakomogiri being Supreme Grade Blades was revealed in the Road to LT mag too.
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SakazOuki said:
This isn't Naruto, there are only a few parallels in One Piece
Luffy - Roger/ Nika
Zoro - Rayleigh/ Ryuma
Sanji - Gaban
Usopp and his father
Besides that nothing concrete

There are similarites between multiple pirates though, like Crocodile and Kidd getting trashed by a Yonko, but we don't know what the future holds
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You forgot Moria too
A better parallel for Kid is Moria than WB
 
Aknolagon

Aknolagon

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#46
#46
Sir Yasheen said:
Gaban is Sanjis floor just like ray is Zoros lmao

And yeah Oda straight up told us that during the scenes where Luffy and Roger yelled their dreams.
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So Roger is Luffy's main parallel/benchmark because Luffy wanna become the PK but somehow Mihawk isn't Zoro's main parallel/benchmark even if the latter wants to become the WSS by beating him lmao ? Even if Oda straight up told us that during the scene where Zoro yelled his dream.

For sure as a Sanji fan, there is no hidden agenda behind what you said :milaugh:

And surprised to see Sanji fans already claiming Gaban as Sanji's floor when he is Sanji's ultimate goal someone that he needs to surpass since All Blue isn't connected directly with strength. Gaban literally hyped EOS Sanji and gave hope to the entire Sanji's fanbase but ok lol.

Zoro's minimum (let's say floor) is Rayleigh lvl so yes a direct and obvious parallel but it doesn't mean he can beat Mihawk by surpassing Rayleigh. Because Mihawk is Zoro's ceiling, the one he needs to surpass to fullfill his dream.
Once he surpasses Mihawk, Zoro has no need to become stronger. That's what we call the main and the most important parallel, the benchmark of someone.

If we count the legend parallel then JoyBoy and Luffy / Ryuma and Zoro.

And may i know why you put Oden as Sabo's main parallel.
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Ssg super suit coby said:
Zoro and Whitebeard has as much parralels as sanji and gaban

Zoro and Whitebeard both have the supreme grade blades

Both have all 3 forms of haki

Both have advanced coc haki
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No scar on the back, ready to die standing :myman:
 
Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#47
#47
Aknolagon said:
So Roger is Luffy's main parallel/benchmark because Luffy wanna become the PK but somehow Mihawk isn't Zoro's main parallel/benchmark even if the latter wants to become the WSS by beating him lmao ? Even if Oda straight up told us that during the scene where Zoro yelled his dream.

For sure as a Sanji fan, there is no hidden agenda behind what you said :milaugh:

And surprised to see Sanji fans already claiming Gaban as Sanji's floor when he is Sanji's ultimate goal someone that he needs to surpass since All Blue isn't connected directly with strength. Gaban literally hyped EOS Sanji and gave hope to the entire Sanji's fanbase but ok lol.

Zoro's minimum (let's say floor) is Rayleigh lvl so yes a direct and obvious parallel but it doesn't mean he can beat Mihawk by surpassing Rayleigh. Because Mihawk is Zoro's ceiling, the one he needs to surpass to fullfill his dream.
Once he surpasses Mihawk, Zoro has no need to become stronger. That's what we call the main and the most important parallel, the benchmark of someone.

If we count the legend parallel then JoyBoy and Luffy / Ryuma and Zoro.

And may i know why you put Oden as Sabo's main parallel.
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No scar on the back, ready to die standing :myman:
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It’s almost like Luffy Zoro and Sanji will reach Roger’s Rayleighs and Gabans level at the same time… when Luffy becomes the pirate king

What happens afterwards who knows but acting like Sanji remains stagnant is wild lmao

And because Oda literally wrote Sabo as the Oden of the current generation even giving them the same exact backstory as nobles born who preferred the freedom away from their noble lifestyle, who became brothers of two people who shared Roger’s and Whitebeards dreams, who failed to go out on the sea himself but succeeded when a world class criminal washed up on their shores, who then rose to being the number two of that world class criminals organization despite being one of the newer members.

This doesn’t even account for Sabos dream literally being completed by Oden, adventuring in the seas and writing a book of all his adventures or that both Oden and Sabo had an adopted sibling from another noble family who later became the leader of their home island.
 
Salah WG

Salah WG

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#49
#49
Blazing Lion said:
Wow, that is something I would have expected @Salah WG to come up with
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Every SH was given their own Island Arc,
But Luffy & Zoro shared a Single Arc called "Romance Dawn",
Who did We get Introduced to aside from Luffy & Zoro in this Arc?

We learned that Leaders of Red-Hair Pirates are it's Captain Shanks, followed by First Mate Beckman, (Rest were Unknown what Role They have). Then Main Two Villains of this Arc were Alvida & Morgan, who were One-Shot by Luffy/Zoro Respectively,
And let's not forget the Introduction of Koby & Helmeppo,

We also had their Flashbacks, where They started in a Village, Luffy received Straw Hat while Zoro received Wado,
So it's clear from Very Beginning that even though Luffy is gonna have more Focus & Screen Time, but the Story will be written as if both Luffy & Zoro are Main Characters, meaning everything Luffy gets, Zoro will receive one

If i Start counting all Characters who follow the same Pattern of being Created for both Luffy/Zoro Respectively,
It will take Eternity,

For example, Mihawk was Created for Zoro, what about Luffy, can't He have Someone like that in East Blue Saga? Yes, it was Dragon,
Or in East Blue Saga, Luffy was Stronger than Every Enemy, until He met Smoker, who was his First True Rival,
What was Second Saga? It was Saga of Bounty Hunters, and Zoro similarly, no Enemy was Stronger than Zoro except who? Daz Bonez,
Meaning Daz Bonez was basically Zoro's Smoker

We also got Introduced to Ace, who is like Logia Luffy, did We get Introduced to Logia Zoro? Yes, it was Crocodile!
Then We got Introduced to Granpa Luffy in Form of Garp, did We then get Introduced to Grandpa Zoro? Yes, it was Rayleigh ... etc

So in terms of Power Levels, in every Power Level, there is a Luffy Character & there is a Zoro Character,
Shanks & Beckman are Same Level,
Dragon & Mihawk are Same Level,
Dorry & Brogy are Same Level,
Smoker & Daz Bonez are Same Level,
Garp & Rayleigh are Same Level,
Ace & Crocodile are Same Level,
Alvida & Morgan ....
Caesar & Monet ....
... etc

Meaning whenever Luffy Surpasses Someone, Zoro also Surpasses another Character as Strong as that Person,
 
hedera__helix

hedera__helix

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#50
#50
Sir Yasheen said:
Gaban is Sanjis floor just like ray is Zoros lmao

And yeah Oda straight up told us that during the scenes where Luffy and Roger yelled their dreams.
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That makes no sense.

Mihawk is stronger than Rayleigh and Zoro will be stronger than Mihawk, meaning Mihawk is Zoro's floor.

Gaban being Sanji's EOS benchmark means nothing for Zoro who has plenty of parallels beyond Rayleigh. Nice try.
 
Ssg super suit coby

Ssg super suit coby

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#54
#54
Sir Yasheen said:
Supreme grade blade?
:Kanki_Wut:
At this point bro may just not even read the story
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I take it you slow. Whitebeard blade has already been a supreme grade blade or higher. All you had to do was read the story instead of commenting and looking goofy

Whitebeard was the wielder of the famous Murakumogiri, a blade known to be one of the 12 Supreme Grade swords in One Piece.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Murakumogiri






So whitebeard has a supreme grade blade. While zoro has a katana that's going to become a supreme grade blade
 
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Sir Yasheen

Sir Yasheen

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#56
#56
Ssg super suit coby said:
I take it you slow. Whitebeard blade has already been a supreme grade blade or higher. All you had to do was read the story instead of commenting and looking goofy

Whitebeard was the wielder of the famous Murakumogiri, a blade known to be one of the 12 Supreme Grade swords in One Piece.

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Murakumogiri






So whitebeard has a supreme grade blade. While zoro has a katana that's going to become a supreme grade blade
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Tell me which supreme grade blade Zoro carries genius.
 
Cozy Sofa

Cozy Sofa

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#58
#58
Blazing Lion said:
You forgot Moria too
A better parallel for Kid is Moria than WB
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It would be so sad if all Kidd pirates wound up dead except Eustass himself. I still think he is a WB parallell but I could see him being driven insane and go down the Moriah route. Instead of zombies he could build an army of robots so that he never again risks losing nakama, he does have a fitting fruit for it.
 
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