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Does Ryokugyu Have A Black Blade?


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Are you slow in the head?

Oda can do whatever he wants. That isn't evidence that, prior to the anime preview for Greenbull, his blade could be any color other than black. Oda's never introduced or drawn a sword that wasn't one of two colors: metallic grey or black.
I'm wondering the same about you to be fair.

So Shusui's blade doesn't have a bright red streak going through it? If he can do that, why can't he make Ryokugyu's blade dark green for example? There's little to no difference.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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I'm wondering the same about you to be fair.

So Shusui's blade doesn't have a bright red streak going through it? If he can do that, why can't he make Ryokugyu's blade dark green for example? There's little to no difference.
Because Oda has never drawn any sword like that before. It's a headcanon to look at a black blade and go "Hmmm, yup. That could be dark green."

It needs a precedent in the manga stronger than "it's odas work so he can do whatever" for it to have been anything more than wishful thinking among certain OP fans.
 
Because Oda has never drawn any sword like that before. It's a headcanon to look at a black blade and go "Hmmm, yup. That could be dark green."

It needs a precedent in the manga stronger than "it's odas work so he can do whatever" for it to have been anything more than wishful thinking among certain OP fans.
There is a precedent of Oda using unorthodox colors for a katana's blade though, that's what the image of Shusui I showed you proves lol...

A month ago almost everyone thought Ryokugyu's hair was black guaranteed, lo and behold it's dark green:kayneshrug:
 
This alongside the anime basically confirming the color of the blade should be enough proof. He is a logia df user he never once pulled out his sword to fight despite fighting for multiple chapters. The bare minimum i would expect from a master swordsman to rely heavily on their swords everything else comes after that. instead we had GB relying on his df during the whole fight even hyping up his logia powers. How does one read these panels and conclude swordsmanship is aramaki main fighting style to the point he can rival Ryuma and Mihawk:nicagesmile:

That's such a shite argument

The fact that he HASN'T used his sword means that the author is saving up for a REAL fight or at least a later reveal.
Just like Queen didn't use his cybernetics vs Big Mom even though he heavily relies on them, that was just so Oda wouldn't reveal that he is a cyborg, or even his full zoan powers like hybrid and brachiosnake.

You think the sword is there for no reason? The fact that he hasn't taken out his sword once should mean the sword is special.

Listen to your idol even if SHIThawk's character later goes to shit and he pulls out his sword to fight fodder lmao
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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There is a precedent of Oda using unorthodox colors for a katana's blade though, that's what the image of Shusui I showed you proves lol...
I'm not sure if this is trolling or dishonesty lmao.
The squiggly line being red does not make the actual blade anything less black nor does it mean Oda does color the actual blade anything other than the two standard colors—metallic steel or black.

It's not a red blade.
A month ago almost everyone thought Ryokugyu's hair was black guaranteed, lo and behold it's dark green:kayneshrug:
Hair can be colored anything in the manga, it can be several colors at once. This is well established.

You thinking blades can suddenly be shaded completely black and interpreted as any other color was not supported in the manga and was your preference.
 
I'm not sure if this is trolling or dishonesty lmao.


The squiggly line being red does not make the actual blade anything less black nor does it mean Oda does color the actual blade anything other than the two standard colors—metallic steel or black.

It's not a red blade.

Hair can be colored anything in the manga, it can be several colors at once. This is well established.

You thinking blades can suddenly be shaded completely black and interpreted as any other color was not supported in the manga and was your preference.
I think you're just having trouble understanding a basic concept to be honest.

Is that squiggly line not a part of the blade? If Oda can have a bright red line go right through the middle of a blade, why can't he make an entire blade a dark green for instance? Is that such a leap in logic that you just can't comprehend it?

You're really just trying to buy time at this point, once the anime shows Ryokugyu's blade not being black several times it's over, the anime always corrects shit pretty quickly.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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Is that squiggly line not a part of the blade?
Did Oda ever refer to Shusui as a red blade? A black & red blade?

You gotta get real here lmfao, these are garbage arguments.

why can't he make an entire blade a dark green for instance? Is that such a leap in logic that you just can't comprehend it?
You're inserting something into the story that, to date, does not exist in the story. A story that contains 1000+ chapters and plenty of swords.

I'll applaud your imagination but that doesn't make your argument Pre-anime reveal valid.

You're really just trying to buy time at this point, once the anime shows Ryokugyu's blade not being black several times it's over, the anime always corrects shit pretty quickly.
I've said a few times, especially since entering the discussion today, his blade isn't black. The anime preview showed that and unless any corrections come out like with King's wings, it's not black.

I'm harping on people who are patting themselves on the back for calling it when, prior to this, they were arguing against blatant evidence.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
Did Oda ever refer to Shusui as a red blade? A black & red blade?

You gotta get real here lmfao, these are garbage arguments.


You're inserting something into the story that, to date, does not exist in the story. A story that contains 1000+ chapters and plenty of swords.

I'll applaud your imagination but that doesn't make your argument Pre-anime reveal valid.


I've said a few times, especially since entering the discussion today, his blade isn't black. The anime preview showed that and unless any corrections come out like with King's wings, it's not black.

I'm harping on people who are patting themselves on the back for calling it when, prior to this, they were arguing against blatant evidence.
You acting like such a loser rn
 
What do we say about Kiku blade hilt was black in manga non colored version so people could push same agenda here back then it would be even more fitting since Kiku is most likely much better swordsman than GB :sanmoji:

 
Did Oda ever refer to Shusui as a red blade? A black & red blade?

You gotta get real here lmfao, these are garbage arguments.


You're inserting something into the story that, to date, does not exist in the story. A story that contains 1000+ chapters and plenty of swords.

I'll applaud your imagination but that doesn't make your argument Pre-anime reveal valid.


I've said a few times, especially since entering the discussion today, his blade isn't black. The anime preview showed that and unless any corrections come out like with King's wings, it's not black.

I'm harping on people who are patting themselves on the back for calling it when, prior to this, they were arguing against blatant evidence.
So you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, you don't even believe the premise of this thread lmao, that's kinda sad and pathetic.
 
You think the sword is there for no reason? The fact that he hasn't taken out his sword once should mean the sword is special.

Listen to your idol even if SHIThawk's character later goes to shit and he pulls out his sword to fight fodder lmao
I will listen to goathawk too bad gb isn't him:milaugh:. Mihawk first introduction starts by lecturing Zoro about swordsmanship while Aramaki is proudly hyping up his logia based abilities
 
So you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, you don't even believe the premise of this thread lmao, that's kinda sad and pathetic.
The blade was originally just silver in the middle
It only changed once on the dressrosa cover later on to match the anime. Something that doesn’t effect it being a black blade

 
@TheAncientCenturion Oda has made it clear that permanent black blades are the pinnacle of swordsmanship. The only people to forge their blades black have been Sword God Ryuma and World’s Strongest Swordsman Mihawk. If Ryokugyu forged a Kokuto too, it would mean that he has Haki and sword skill on par with Ryuma and Mihawk, despite also possessing a strong Logia. If he was skilled enough to forge a Kokuto, he would be much stronger than Ryuma or Mihawk due to also having a Logia on top of that. Oda clearly didn’t intend for Ryokugyu to be PK+ level, so the only logical conclusion is that it’s not a Kokuto.
 
@TheAncientCenturion Oda has made it clear that permanent black blades are the pinnacle of swordsmanship. The only people to forge their blades black have been Sword God Ryuma and World’s Strongest Swordsman Mihawk. If Ryokugyu forged a Kokuto too, it would mean that he has Haki and sword skill on par with Ryuma and Mihawk, despite also possessing a strong Logia. If he was skilled enough to forge a Kokuto, he would be much stronger than Ryuma or Mihawk due to also having a Logia on top of that. Oda clearly didn’t intend for Ryokugyu to be PK+ level, so the only logical conclusion is that it’s not a Kokuto.
Oda also drew Roger and WB clashing equally in pure haki, but WB had the Gura Gura too.

Still, that would not mean WB >> Roger at all because the manga doesn't work like this.
 
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