Powers & Abilities Did Whitebeard use adv CoC in Marineford?

[MonochromeYoru]

Except Oda retconned it to adv CoC meaning that old WB was using adv CoC since he clashed with Shanks

That was completely different. WB was hooked on his meds before they clashed. So he was stable. But he refused his meds and stuff when going to MF. His condition was worsening every moment he wasn't hooked up to the meds.

lmao, Luffy literally came back from dead and used adv CoC no problem to beat the shit out of Kaido
Roger was sick and near dead and was still able to use adv CoC no problem

Sounds like the shit you made up

Luffy is young and the MC. WB was old, sick, and primed to be the arc's death. We don't know Roger's state when he fought WB. We only see him coughing up blood later on, after coming back from Laugh tale.

*Whitebeard reacts to pain from Akainu's hole in his chest while knowing he can stop them with CoC*

Retards: "Whitebeard couldn't use CoC!!!!"

You see that "Damn" there from WB as he is having a heart attack? That means he tried normal coc and he couldn't do it. He was disappointed he couldn't.

A man like WB wouldn't care about pain in the middle of the most important and last battle he would ever participate in. Hell he got his brains blown out and was still moving.

This is different.

 

[comrade]

Stop coping Lurwa.

When he clashed with Shanks, he was still on his meds and Marco strictly advised Whitebeard against taking them off in Marineford for obvious reasons. In Marineford, he was observing the war from the Moby Dick at the beginning, was then stabbed by Squardo, with Marco attributing it to how bad Whitebeard's condition actually is, to a point he cannot react to his ally attacking while having his senses up in the context of a war, while Whitebeard while on meds could react on Ace sneaking in while sleeping.

It's also funny how you dismiss the fact Whitebeard couldn't use even basic CoC due to his condition and him grabbing his wound, but then assume he used adv. CoC regardless against Akainu in a shape worse than the one that did not allow him to use basic CoC to stop Ace' execution.

Whitebeard not touching Akainu with his punch isn't sign of adv.CoC. First of all, you can touch the opponent while using adv. CoC; that "no touching" is usually displayed when two attacks infused with adv.CoC clash. Though even then, it wasn't displayed when Shanks and Whitebeard clashed, nor was it displayed when Big Mom and Kaido clashed. So it may be the influence of Ryuo in the first place. Furthermore, we literally see how the Gura fruit allows you to coat your fist with a sphere that extends your body.

We have no obligation to prove Whitebeard didn't use adv.CoC in Marineford, when nothing indicates he did.

Stop wasting the Forum's server storage with your garbage threads, especially now that the energy crisis impacts server costs.

 

[kurwa]

That was completely different. WB was hooked on his meds before they clashed. So he was stable

Oh shit, I didn't know that adv CoC comes from medicine. Why isn't everyone using medicine and gaining adv CoC?

But he refused his meds and stuff when going to MF

Sounds like Whitebeard knew that medicine won't impact his his fighting prowes that much since he will be rescuing his crew and going all out. Unlike some people who headcanon that medicine gave him powers.

Luffy is young and the MC. WB was old, sick, and primed to be the arc's death

Oh shit, I didn't know that death affected young people differently


*Luffy dies* = still is able to use CoC
*Wb is still fighting* = "NOOOOO, HE CAN'T USE COC!!!"

We don't know Roger's state when he fought WB

Yes we do. He had 1 year to live at best.

You see that "Damn" there from WB as he is having a heart attack? That means he tried normal coc and he couldn't do it. He was disappointed he couldn't.

...or you know, instead of your headcanon,
Whitebeard is reacting with "damn" to the fact that the injury from Akainu gave him massive pain the moment he needed to save Ace?

A man like WB wouldn't care about pain in the middle of the most important and last battle he would ever participate in

He is literally gripping his hole, schizo.

 

[comrade]

Whitebeard on meds: Reacts to Ace in his sleep using CoO.
Whitebeard off meds: Can't react to Squardo while having his senses up in the context of war, with Marco attributing it to Whitebeard's condition.

Whitebeard with a hole in his chest: Can't use basic CoC as he almost collapses due to his wounds.
Whitebeard with a hole in his chest and hundreds of wounds stacked on top: Uses adv. CoC against Akainu.

Lurwa: Prove Whitebeard didn't use adv. CoC against Akainu.

What a Brainlet.

 

[Herrera95]

We used to think he used his DF against Akainu. But it makes no sense since Akainu is a logia. So haki it is.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Oh shit, I didn't know that adv CoC comes from medicine. Why isn't everyone using medicine and gaining adv CoC?

Sounds like Whitebeard knew that medicine won't impact his his fighting prowes that much since he will be rescuing his crew and going all out. Unlike some people who headcanon that medicine gave him powers.

WB literally says he doesn't need his opponents pity. That's why he leaves his meds. He clearly needed them. Meds didn't give him powers. But they did stabilize him enough for him to use coc in shanks clash.

Oh shit, I didn't know that death affected young people differently


*Luffy dies* = still is able to use CoC
*Wb is still fighting* = "NOOOOO, HE CAN'T USE COC!!!"

Luffy has hella plot armor lol. WB had anything but. He was the arc death along with Ace. So, he had to be nerfed somewhat while still keeping his dignity and hype intact. That's where the no meds and sickness comes in.

Yes we do. He had 1 year to live at best.

And he had the best Doc in the world with him. Roger wasn't as old as WB when he died either. Roger also wasn't hooked on meds. So his sickness wasn't as bad at that time either. We only see some visible effect of his illness like a year after the WB fight.

...or you know, instead of your headcanon,
Whitebeard is reacting with "damn" to the fact that the injury from Akainu gave him massive pain the moment he needed to save Ace?

So he waited on reacting to the damn hole until the most crucial moment in the war? Why wouldn't he continue like he did after getting that hole? Why is it he reacts that way only when he tried to use coc and not before or after?

He is literally gripping his hole, schizo.

You do know that a heart is in one's chest area right?

 

[Apollo]

The no touching-thing may be true when enraged Whitebeard snuck on Akainu:

But aside from this moment, WB could only use basic haki in MF.

 

[kurwa]

Whitebeard on meds: Reacts to Ace in his sleep using CoO.
Whitebeard off meds: Can't react to Squardo while having his senses up in the context of war, with Marco attributing it to Whitebeard's condition.

It's almost as if he knew that there was this rookie Ace in his ship who is constantly trying to kill him or something.

I guess Squardo is just that much stronger than a warlord Crocodile, to whom Whitebeard reacted no problem from behind.

Whitebeard with a hole in his chest: Can't use basic CoC as he almost collapses due to his wounds.
Whitebeard with a hole in his chest and hundreds of wounds stacked on top: Uses adv. CoC against Akainu.

oh wow, it's almost as if it's a fighting manga where pain comes at random times.

Just like Luffy was knocked out from Kaido's simple three thousand attack
yet later on he was able to tank everything without passing out

or how Kid and Law were knocked and down from Meme's weaker attacks yet came back and were tanking stronger attacks.

Or how Luffy was only sometimes reacting to pain from blocking Katakuri's CoA and other times he was clashing with his CoA without pain.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Imagine calling some a schizo over Japanese cartoons

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

I rented an apartment in someone's mind. LOL


- Shanks uses Adcoc = WB ship's weaker crew faints.

Spoiler: 1º

- Kaidou and Luffy collide = Beast Pirate crew faints.

Spoiler: 2º

- Big Mom uses it in Off panel = Beasts Pirates and Samurai faint.

Spoiler: 3º

- Zoro uses Adcoc = Pirate Beasts faint

Spoiler: 4º

- Whitebeard clashes with Akainu = Nobody faints.

- Whitebeard is hit by fodder and pierced by them = No fodder faints.

- The haki of a desperate Luffy without even knowing how to control it was stronger than the hypothetical Haki that LURWA gives to the WB in Marineford. LMAOOOOOO

 

[kurwa]

I rented an apartment in someone's mind. LOL


- Shanks uses Adcoc = WB ship's weaker crew faints.

Spoiler: 1º

- Kaidou and Luffy collide = Beast Pirate crew faints.

Spoiler: 2º

- Big Mom uses it in Off panel = Beasts Pirates and Samurai faint.

Spoiler: 3º

- Zoro uses Adcoc = Pirate Beasts faint

Spoiler: 4º

- Whitebeard clashes with Akainu = Nobody faints.

- Whitebeard is hit by fodder and pierced by them = No fodder faints.

- The haki of a desperate Luffy without even knowing how to control it was stronger than the hypothetical Haki that LURWA gives to the WB in Marineford. LMAOOOOOO

Who fainted when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed?
Who fainted when Kaido knocked out Luffy in act 1?
Who fainted when Yamato hit Ulti with thunder bagua?
Who fainted when Kaido and Big Mom clashed?

Where's the proof that Big Mom used adv CoC off panel and not basic CoC?

 

[HA001]

Who fainted when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed?
Who fainted when Kaido knocked out Luffy in act 1?
Who fainted when Yamato hit Ulti with thunder bagua?

Where's the proof that Big Mom used adv CoC off panel and not basic CoC?

Not acoc
Not acoc
Not acoc

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Who fainted when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed?
Who fainted when Kaido knocked out Luffy in act 1?
Who fainted when Yamato hit Ulti with thunder bagua?
Who fainted when Kaido and Big Mom clashed?

Where's the proof that Big Mom used adv CoC off panel and not basic CoC?

Who fainted when Whitebeard and Shanks clashed?

Shanks had already knocked out all of Whitebeard's ship's subordinates who couldn't withstand the Conqueror's shockwave... There's no point in them knocking someone else out when Shanks has already done that job.

Who fainted when Yamato hit Ulti with thunder bagua?

Yamato was only aiming at an individual and not around him, Yamato's ACOC is also weak, I mean any monkey knows that infusing his Kanabo is different.

Yamato was only aiming at an individual and not around him, Yamato's ACOC is also weak, I mean any monkey knows that infusing his Kanabo is different.

LurwA did you see the sequence of photo-facts, posted by me? There are two different steps to apply Haoshoku to your Kanabo + release Haoshoku.

Who fainted when Kaido and Big Mom clashed?

We know that the clash between Luffy and Kaidou made random pass out too.

The only reason why no one fainted when Kaidou and Big Mom shared the skies was that the soldiers present contained a strong spirit and because of that factor they didn't faint.


I mean anyone with 2Qi will know that WB didn't have Haoshoku in Marineford, and he never showed anything throughout the war related to his use of COC or even ACOC, there's not a single panel, whereas when Shanks came to war the simple fact that he blocked Akainu's fist made Coby who was nearby faint.


While WB and Akainu collided with each other not just once more several times and the result = nobody around cared, tbh.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I just come to know that majority of people believe that Whitebeard was not using adv CoC. I thought it was the most obvious thing.

Whitebeard used it for a friendly clash with Shanks but wouldn't use in the biggest war while going all out?

"B-But there were no sparks and no touching!!!"
Sounds like preTS where haki was invisible and exactly the same way he clashed with Shanks.

The "no touching" can even be first seen when bloodlusted Whitebeard cheapshots Akainu from behind and punches him without touching:

Some even believe that Whitebeard, the Strongest Man was hakiless in marineford...

Been saying for years that Whitebeard used AdCoC here lol, no other Haki can even make an Admiral flinch.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Imagine calling some a schizo over Japanese cartoons

Each day i fall in love more and more with this super toxic, yet immensely funny fanbase.

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@kurwa he didn't use it for the same reason that big mom didn't turn the volcano's magna into a homie with her fruit, you gotta be in good condition for your powers to work.

A bomb exploding on her chest caused that just like multiple wounds+ absence of medicines hindered WB's haki

 

[Koro]

He did use aCoC for a moment but can't do it longer or several times since he was old & sick. While, Rayleigh said that he couldn't use CoC unless after several moments needed.

Here i thought, WB use his Haki to strengthen his standing.

 

[BigAmmi]

No, Oda didn't plan to use adv Haki in the Pre-TS. Is clearly something that he invented later. At Wano, maybe.

Haki is trash writing. Just accept it.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

no

 

[Arthur Fleck]

No he didn't.

Can you see that red thing just above WB's elbow? That's the initial hit. What you see there is just the aftermath.

WB can't use CoO to evade Squard's attack, can't use CoC to knock out Ace executioners. With this, WB couldn't use any advance haki.

 

[Croci]

He want but he can't