Well zoro doing the most damaged hasn't been proved yet too, if luffy is about to defeat kaido he is for sure gonna do more damage then zoro, again i just think it makes sense that you respect your enemy if you enjoy fighting them in all aspects, speed, endurance, damage
He literally left a scar on him akin to Oden which proves he did more damage than everyone else Kaido's fought so far. Obviously, Luffy's gonna do more damage in the future.
He used excessive amounts of Haki and he did it consciously and deliberately to launch a big move. The last time I checked excessive use of Haki exhausts people. That's precisely why G4 exhausts Luffy, and we know for a fact that he has G4 under control.
I mean Zoro fought god knows how many gifters and Ice Onis before coming to the rooftop.
Plus the fact that he was able to consciously pull out that kind of an attack shows that he has mastered Enma. He missed the attack though that's on him.
He used excessive amounts of Haki and he did it consciously and deliberately to launch a big move. The last time I checked excessive use of Haki exhausts people. That's precisely why G4 exhausts Luffy, and we know for a fact that he has G4 under control.
So how did he not lose control while using Tatsumaki and Asura? Clearly, Kaido dodged the Flying Dragon Blaze which is why Zoro missed it. As for him saying, "I gotta unleash Enma more," that proves he has it under control if anything. Because controlling Enma means preventing it from exuding COA on its own and regulating Haki flow into it. If he can decide when to unleash it and when not to unleash it, and if he can control the degree to which it is unleashed, then it's only logical that he has it under control.
So how did he not lose control while using Tatsumaki and Asura? Clearly, Kaido dodged the Flying Dragon Blaze which is why Zoro missed it. As for him saying, "I gotta unleash Enma more," that proves he has it under control if anything. Because controlling Enma means preventing it from exuding COA on its own and regulating Haki flow into it. If he can decide when to unleash it and when not to unleash it, and if he can control the degree to which it is unleashed, then it's only logical that he has it under control.
Hum, He attacked Kaido and invested little Haki, which bought him no results. So he realized he gotta step up the game. That doesn't suggest in any way that he's not used to Enma. The fact that he can release it and restrain it clearly proves he has it under control.
Everyone and their mothers can tag Dragon Kaido, the fact he dodged also means Zoro missed.
Releasing Enma whole power, controlling it without being overwhelmed and unleashing it with a proper aim was likely difficult
Once again, why did Zoro not struggle when he released Enma to launch Tatsumaki and Asura? He has more swords to worry about in these instances, which means it's even harder to control it. Flying Dragon Blaze is the first and last time we saw Dragon Kaido trying to dodge an attack so...
Hum, He attacked Kaido and invested little Haki, which bought him no results. So he realized he gotta step up the game. That doesn't suggest in any way that he's not used to Enma. The fact that he can release it and restrain it clearly proves he has it under control.
Once again, why did Zoro not struggle when he released Enma to launch Tatsumaki and Asura? He has more swords to worry about in these instances, which means it's even harder to control it. Flying Dragon Blaze is the first and last time we saw Dragon Kaido trying to dodge an attack so...
Yeah so let’s list all Zoro attacks with Enma to see the master in action : first one : didn’t put enough power behind his attack and made a special comment on it, then landed a Tatsumaki that was strong but didn’t hurt Kaido that much or much more than others, then missed/was dodged when he focused Enma full power, then landed Ashura who was said by Kaido to be good but not enough.
And Enma is the main sword of this arc and Zoro will 100% use it again. Do you think next time he will unleash his biggest attack with it it will miss ? Or be dodged ? Or won’t put down how enemy ?
Clearly not.
so yes Zoro trained and could use Enma on the roof but he was by no means a master of it or completely fine with it.
Tatsumaki and Ashura weren’t Enma solo attack where Zoro used it full potential.
He literally left a scar on him akin to Oden which proves he did more damage than everyone else Kaido's fought so far. Obviously, Luffy's gonna do more damage in the future.
You fail to understand my point, the only measurement for damage is a scar ? If we are talking about one attack sure i can give it to zoro but overall luffy did more damage even if there are no visible marks because he literally doesn't use swords lol.
You fail to understand my point, the only measurement for damage is a scar ? If we are talking about one attack sure i can give it to zoro but overall luffy did more damage even if there are no visible marks because he literally doesn't use swords lol.
It's not just about leaving a scar in general, but about how hard it is to leave a scar on Kaido and it's also about how much of an impact their attacks have on Kaido. There is a reason why Oda made such a big deal out of leaving a mark on Kaido. The last time someone left a permanent scar on Kaido, his fate was sealed if it weren't for the old hag. You can only leave a scar on Kaido if the damage you're doing is significant.
We know it the way Kaido reacted to the damage taken. He was evidently distressed and shocked after the attack, which is apparent from him saying, "Damn it," while holding the damaged area as he looks at it:
He looks worse in all the panels from chapter 1000 and 1001 after the Red Roc.
Luffy manages to put Hybrid Kaido's body on strain when no one could for now during rooftop.
He bleed from the nose before. It started in 1010 with Law's injection shot. Stopped and came back later when Luffy could easily block him. Despite Kaido going from a strong move.
In fact Ashura didn't make Kaido bleed from his nose.
This is just after Ashura.
Now portrayal wise. Just look at Law's reaction about those punch.
He was shocked that Luffy didn't need to touch Kaido. Same panel as Oden. Watching WB and Roger.
Yamato didn't even care about the cut from Zoro. And the scar treatment is lame (inconsistent and was forgotten by Oda on Kaido)
We also know that they have different level to CoC.
Luffy is a specialist of CoC and can control it.
Zoro is unaware he can control it.
Luffy's CoC>Zoro's CoC so logically Luffy's CoC blows should also be better.
He literally left a scar on him akin to Oden which proves he did more damage than everyone else Kaido's fought so far. Obviously, Luffy's gonna do more damage in the future.
I know understand why you think he made more damages it's just for the scar.
It literally makes no sense as Luffy can't scar Kaido so I wont lose my time.
It's not just about leaving a scar in general, but about how hard it is to leave a scar on Kaido and it's also about how much of an impact their attacks have on Kaido. There is a reason why Oda made such a big deal out of leaving a mark on Kaido. The last time someone left a permanent scar on Kaido, his fate was sealed if it weren't for the old hag. You can only leave a scar on Kaido if the damage you're doing is significant.
Yeah but then again oden and zoro with enma were able to do it, roger got a supreme grade sword and probably shanks too, they didnt scar him and by the silluate he saw im pretty sure he fought them. Its true that oda hyped kaido and oden especially as the only one who could scar him but when you see other characters clearly stronger then oden and zoro this achievement is not something's that makes you top tier.
I would not catalogue it as a fantasy, rather an educated guess.
Kaido seems to be unable to hold Onigashima so he is probably substantially weakened and the odds want that's rather to ascribe to his HP.
He might stand in the 50% range or somewhat above. So who drew the rest? The combined efforts of Zoro, Luffy, Yamato and the rest. Zoro taking a good 15% away is far from fantasy when we consider how seriously Kaido took his performance. And how that didn't work out for Luffy.
Zoro isn't the only one who hurt Kaido with a sword. The scabbards also damaged him. The only difference is that theirs was not permanent. We just don't know why Zoro's was permanent. But from what we've seen, Kaido has been in a lot of battles and has two permanent wounds. What they both have in common is Enma. We'll see why over time. Besides, there is Luffy, who fights head-to-head with Kaido for at least 20 minutes. With Kaido's escape from Luffy's punches, we understand that Luffy can harm Kaido. On the one hand, Zoro, who gave a single scar without a clear reason, on the other hand, Luffy, who struggled with Kaido for a while. There is also Yamato, who fights Kaido as much as Luffy. Luffy and Yamato's tiring of Kaido is much more than the effect of Zoro and the Scabbards.
Apart from that, Kaido fought Luffy for at least 20 minutes (this time increases with intervals) and Yamato for at least as long. And we saw that Kaido was starting to avoid Luffy's hits. That's why I attribute Kaido's fatigue not to a single sword blow, but to the character who fought him for at least 20 minutes, and to Yamato.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
