Future Events Discussing Zoro next Power up (the battle between Zoro and King )
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Except that unlike Queen, Jabra never felt the need to tell a tale about Kaku's monstrosity
Except that unlike King, Kaku was never implied to be undefeated
Except that unlike King, Kaku didnt have a single stat that surpassed one of Lucci's
Except that unlike King, Kaku is never stated to be Lucci's rhm
Why wouldnt sanji have a bounty of 50m? why did that have to be a secret?
Yes, he was forced to draw rooftop fights,
but was he also forced to draw only zoro and luffy up there?
Oda could very well include Bepo, but he didnt
Oda could very well include the number 3 of the respective crew (Sanji, Heat and idk who is from Law's crew)
Because zoro gave it his all when blocking hakai? trash writing or fanservice or whatever it is doesnt make the story uncanon
It depends tbh, do you think Benn is close to Lucky roo?
And i couldnt recall that fleet admiral has a rhm
do you think Killer is close to heat?
it doesnt always dictate rhm >>> the rest, but it still is a superior portrayal
Except that unlike King, Kaku was never implied to be undefeated
Except that unlike King, Kaku didnt have a single stat that surpassed one of Lucci's
Except that unlike King, Kaku is never stated to be Lucci's rhm
Why wouldnt sanji have a bounty of 50m? why did that have to be a secret?
Yes, he was forced to draw rooftop fights,
but was he also forced to draw only zoro and luffy up there?
Oda could very well include Bepo, but he didnt
Oda could very well include the number 3 of the respective crew (Sanji, Heat and idk who is from Law's crew)
Because zoro gave it his all when blocking hakai? trash writing or fanservice or whatever it is doesnt make the story uncanon
It depends tbh, do you think Benn is close to Lucky roo?
And i couldnt recall that fleet admiral has a rhm
do you think Killer is close to heat?
it doesnt always dictate rhm >>> the rest, but it still is a superior portrayal
Yeah, and they have different heights, names, eyes, etc. What's this stupid argument lmao?
Both were presented as equal, as peers. No one distinguished their strength (Marco, Sanji, Zoro when they were both at the same time in X situation).
Both Ancient Zoan, an upgrade from normal Zoans.
Similar bounties instead of dourikis.
Lmao, that's all you need.
Bro, you fucking serious? XDDDDDD
Bepo is not a Supernova, facepalm, therefore Supernova vs Yonko later as a title wont be possible. Simple as that.
Irrelevant lmao.
Zoro should have blocked casually every King's attack if he could block Hakai for a moment and dont move from there.
He lost his strength or something? kekw
And why not? What showed Ben that didnt Lucky Roo?
In the same way Bepo is a scrub despite being Law's RH, Kid doesnt need to have two wings. He only has Killer.
Bro, are you fucking reading? Never said Zoro was not superior. Yes, it is. In same way King it's the stronger. But they are still in the same tier as Sanji and Queen.
He didnt practice after Skypiea to be able to use it on EL, so your point makes no sense. He simply need a new technique in Skypiea, a ranged one since his opponents were ranged.
There's no hint at all against Enel, no Haki.
Both were presented as equal, as peers. No one distinguished their strength (Marco, Sanji, Zoro when they were both at the same time in X situation).
Both Ancient Zoan, an upgrade from normal Zoans.
Similar bounties instead of dourikis.
Lmao, that's all you need.
Bro, you fucking serious? XDDDDDD
Bepo is not a Supernova, facepalm, therefore Supernova vs Yonko later as a title wont be possible. Simple as that.
Irrelevant lmao.
Zoro should have blocked casually every King's attack if he could block Hakai for a moment and dont move from there.
He lost his strength or something? kekw
And why not? What showed Ben that didnt Lucky Roo?
In the same way Bepo is a scrub despite being Law's RH, Kid doesnt need to have two wings. He only has Killer.
Bro, are you fucking reading? Never said Zoro was not superior. Yes, it is. In same way King it's the stronger. But they are still in the same tier as Sanji and Queen.
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He didnt practice after Skypiea to be able to use it on EL, so your point makes no sense. He simply need a new technique in Skypiea, a ranged one since his opponents were ranged.
There's no hint at all against Enel, no Haki.
what do these things have to do with powerscaling tho?
King being implied to have never been defeated is a portrayal about strength, something Kaku didnt have
King being called a god and could survive elemental attacks (hazardous environments) is a portrayal about strength, something kaku didnt have
King being the rhm of a yonko group that is dictated by strength is a portrayal about strength, something that Kaku didnt have in a CP group that is also dictated by strength
You mean the same way that BM never distinguished the supernova when she said "weve underestimated them"? you're saying luffy=zoro=kidd=law=killer?
Dont you realize that my point still didnt get through your mind despite being said twice already?
King and Queen can share some similar portrayals, that's cool
but that still doesnt change the fact that King has portrayals that Queen doesnt have
That goes for any other group
Katakuri is literally a SC, same with even Snack, hell BM doesnt even feel the need to at the very least make Kata his RHM
but what makes Kata more special? of course the portrayal he got that the other SCs didnt
yes im being dead serious
i dont know how does his family stuffys correlate to the idea that Sanji's arabasta bounty need to be kept in secret
irrelevant?
Zoro was ready to sacrifice himself, so of course he would use every bit of his strength to stall hakai
While when against king, he didnt need to do that because zoro intened to defeat king, so he gotta utilize his strength carefully
i literally seen you saying that zoro is = sanji in some occasions
King being implied to have never been defeated is a portrayal about strength, something Kaku didnt have
King being called a god and could survive elemental attacks (hazardous environments) is a portrayal about strength, something kaku didnt have
King being the rhm of a yonko group that is dictated by strength is a portrayal about strength, something that Kaku didnt have in a CP group that is also dictated by strength
You mean the same way that BM never distinguished the supernova when she said "weve underestimated them"? you're saying luffy=zoro=kidd=law=killer?
Dont you realize that my point still didnt get through your mind despite being said twice already?
King and Queen can share some similar portrayals, that's cool
but that still doesnt change the fact that King has portrayals that Queen doesnt have
That goes for any other group
Katakuri is literally a SC, same with even Snack, hell BM doesnt even feel the need to at the very least make Kata his RHM
but what makes Kata more special? of course the portrayal he got that the other SCs didnt
yes im being dead serious
i dont know how does his family stuffys correlate to the idea that Sanji's arabasta bounty need to be kept in secret
irrelevant?
Zoro was ready to sacrifice himself, so of course he would use every bit of his strength to stall hakai
While when against king, he didnt need to do that because zoro intened to defeat king, so he gotta utilize his strength carefully
i literally seen you saying that zoro is = sanji in some occasions
That's a portrayal with Zoro himself since both promised that to their Captains (though Oda won't fool me, a cheap copy of Katakuri), you even have the panels drawn there kekw. Obviously Kaku wont have that portrayal since they were barely "starting" while here they are already confronting the final "lines". So pretty much a stupid argument.
Irrelevant again. Luffy survived that during the TS since in that island each week was a different clima or something like that. And that btw is the typical trait of every different race in OP (gyojins can "control" water and breath and live underwater, Minks manipulate electricity, and Lunarians have a strong body and fire powers). Oh yeah, obviously in a cold weather they are good with fire powers and in a hot clima they are even better. What a surprise.
The 3ºrd argument is completely stupid. Literally the CP9 have a meassurement system of the strength lmaooooooo.
You did some mental gymnastics at the lvl of a true Zorotard there kekw.
BM means that if earlier they fought SN were 100/70/90/60/80, now they are 120/90/110/80/100.
Hope with numbers you understand that you wrote there a complete nonsense.
On the opposite, Marco said, "it's tough fight against two people with billion bounties". Here, each one, King/Queen, is "a billion man". Here it doesnt exist that distinction at all. In the same way Sanji when lost against both of them or when Zoro wanted with Luffy to go to the roof and saw King and Queen.
BM's sweet generals have a clear difference in bounties which is the indicator for us the readers. King and Queen no. Both have 1.3XX.
If his portrait would have been released, his family would know about him kekw. And since they want to expand their power/authority since... ever, they would go after Sanji since then so they can use him. Obviously it wasnt the moment for that plot at that time.
Yeah, so he wasnt interested in blocking King because... he was a nice guy? He used his 100% there but with King he went with the 20% ? kekw
And the sacrifice... oh my god, totally stupid when in the next second we saw that Law could simply Shambled them since Luffy told them in advance, trash writing at its finest so Zoro would go back from rooftop since his fanservice role ended there
If you "saw" that, it means I was talking about tier, same tier.
There are only 2 pair totally equal in this manga. Dorry & Broggy, InuNeko.
Irrelevant again. Luffy survived that during the TS since in that island each week was a different clima or something like that. And that btw is the typical trait of every different race in OP (gyojins can "control" water and breath and live underwater, Minks manipulate electricity, and Lunarians have a strong body and fire powers). Oh yeah, obviously in a cold weather they are good with fire powers and in a hot clima they are even better. What a surprise.
The 3ºrd argument is completely stupid. Literally the CP9 have a meassurement system of the strength lmaooooooo.
You did some mental gymnastics at the lvl of a true Zorotard there kekw.
BM means that if earlier they fought SN were 100/70/90/60/80, now they are 120/90/110/80/100.
Hope with numbers you understand that you wrote there a complete nonsense.
On the opposite, Marco said, "it's tough fight against two people with billion bounties". Here, each one, King/Queen, is "a billion man". Here it doesnt exist that distinction at all. In the same way Sanji when lost against both of them or when Zoro wanted with Luffy to go to the roof and saw King and Queen.
BM's sweet generals have a clear difference in bounties which is the indicator for us the readers. King and Queen no. Both have 1.3XX.
If his portrait would have been released, his family would know about him kekw. And since they want to expand their power/authority since... ever, they would go after Sanji since then so they can use him. Obviously it wasnt the moment for that plot at that time.
Yeah, so he wasnt interested in blocking King because... he was a nice guy? He used his 100% there but with King he went with the 20% ? kekw
And the sacrifice... oh my god, totally stupid when in the next second we saw that Law could simply Shambled them since Luffy told them in advance, trash writing at its finest so Zoro would go back from rooftop since his fanservice role ended there
If you "saw" that, it means I was talking about tier, same tier.
There are only 2 pair totally equal in this manga. Dorry & Broggy, InuNeko.
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Zoro has all forms of Haki and their advanced forms except for Future Sight. Some of these he's had before luffy (because of his style of martial arts) and some he got after.
At no point is it suddenly becoming "just a new technique he learnt", you can cope with that.
CoA = basic Armament
CoA blackening = turning his sword black
AdCoA = creating a barrier around his Blackened weapons (which is literally the smoke like thing on all his weapons).
If you're still in denial you're either illiterate to some degree, in denial or just retarded....and there's no cure for that I'm afraid
At no point is it suddenly becoming "just a new technique he learnt", you can cope with that.
CoA = basic Armament
CoA blackening = turning his sword black
AdCoA = creating a barrier around his Blackened weapons (which is literally the smoke like thing on all his weapons).
If you're still in denial you're either illiterate to some degree, in denial or just retarded....and there's no cure for that I'm afraid
