Do you like being forced to take vaccine?

#42
One major issue is that some countries have very poor access to vaccines because the companies that produce them hold patents.
These patents majorly contribute to the evolution of variants.


@DynaMight I don't know about other countries but in my country the mask and distancing are still mandatory even for vaccinated people.
A vaccinated person can still spread the virus or even fall ill with covid.
Indeed, in Italy, vaccinated or not, you have to use masks in closed spaces and when in a crowd. Now there is a debate about making the avaccine madatory for school teachers and health care workers.
 
#43
I don't like to be forced for anything
If they just would have given it to people with honesty 95% would have taken them and there wouldn't be any need for all this toxicity
Just say we have a vaccine
It's 99% safe but you might become a reptile or whatever since we didn't have time to do our long term studies but when you lie and then get caught, say you are gonna go door to door and inject people, constantly call them racist grandma killers if they are young and healthy and would rather take their chances ofc people are gonna be mad

It's the same case over here
The politicians from our country also come on Tv and lie about all this
But people already know and won't take them seriously
The shut downs have been used politically by them
When it's election they have massive gathering with thousands of people and no masks but when it ends your store becomes too dangerous
 

Jew D. Boy

I Can Go Lower
#44
Nobody forced me to get it, I did so because I think it’s personally and collectively irresponsible not to and I prefer to take anything that might keep me safe. Once again, freedom of choice is NOT freedom of consequences - you can choose not to get it, but if that runs counter to what society has agreed is acceptable, there will be strings attached and it’s your responsibility to untangle them for yourself.
 
#46
Jeeeez comparing vaccine to nazis lmao
not to the Nazis. to the regular citizens that went along with it.
you are ok with your fellows being thrown out of work for a medical decision. think about this for a while. can you not see how wrong that is?
where does it end? where do you draw the line? you are ok with them losing their job. are you ok with them not being able to participate in society anymore? are you ok with them being deported to "reeducation camps"? are you ok with them not being able to feed their families?

I am not trying to be controversial here as I am sick of this division between people.

One major issue is that some countries have very poor access to vaccines because the companies that produce them hold patents.
These patents majorly contribute to the evolution of variants.


@DynaMight I don't know about other countries but in my country the mask and distancing are still mandatory even for vaccinated people.
A vaccinated person can still spread the virus or even fall ill with covid.
there were people who wanted to make the vaccines patent free (some, not all, I think it was AZ or BionTech). they got overruled.
its brutally clear that its NOT about helping people. its about profit. the cheapest of the vaccines get all the negative coverage while the expensive ones do not.
in germany we have a safety report from the Paul-Ehrlich-Institute that says that the mRNA vaccines cause just as many deaths as the Adenovirus ones. statistically only a very small difference.

what really grinds me gears though is that China is producing and exporting a real vaccines. a normal plain old inactivated virus vaccine.
I highly doubt that this would get a worse reception than new mRNA shots. why not offer that instead? other countries use it and it works.

The more its forced the more I dont want to take it... if its to save the world make recipe free... looking into hostory no first year vaccines were safe, and had bad reps... also look at all big farma companies , how many crimes they made asbest and such... only now when vaxx is forced on us they are saints.... Im healthy and I dont want to experiance what my brother did
exactly my thoughts. the more its advertised the more its pushed the more suspicious I get. I have done plenty of calculation about how the risk/reward ratio is. it simply makes no sense to vaccinated young healthy adults and much less KIDS.
pushing this onto kids was the final red flag that made me reject this vaccine propaganda.

you want to trust companies that got the biggest fines ever?
you want to trust companies that willingly poisoned kids in africa?
go ahead then. I feel fine as I am and I trust my body.
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#47
not to the Nazis. to the regular citizens that went along with it.
you are ok with your fellows being thrown out of work for a medical decision. think about this for a while. can you not see how wrong that is?
where does it end? where do you draw the line? you are ok with them losing their job. are you ok with them not being able to participate in society anymore? are you ok with them being deported to "reeducation camps"? are you ok with them not being able to feed their families?

I am not trying to be controversial here as I am sick of this division between people.


there were people who wanted to make the vaccines patent free (some, not all, I think it was AZ or BionTech). they got overruled.
its brutally clear that its NOT about helping people. its about profit. the cheapest of the vaccines get all the negative coverage while the expensive ones do not.
in germany we have a safety report from the Paul-Ehrlich-Institute that says that the mRNA vaccines cause just as many deaths as the Adenovirus ones. statistically only a very small difference.

what really grinds me gears though is that China is producing and exporting a real vaccines. a normal plain old inactivated virus vaccine.
I highly doubt that this would get a worse reception than new mRNA shots. why not offer that instead? other countries use it and it works.


exactly my thoughts. the more its advertised the more its pushed the more suspicious I get. I have done plenty of calculation about how the risk/reward ratio is. it simply makes no sense to vaccinated young healthy adults and much less KIDS.
pushing this onto kids was the final red flag that made me reject this vaccine propaganda.

you want to trust companies that got the biggest fines ever?
you want to trust companies that willingly poisoned kids in africa?
go ahead then. I feel fine as I am and I trust my body.
the bastardisation of science is my biggest problem, you are not supposed to question anything, just go with the flow, but if you do start questiioning , start looking into yellow cards in UK other side effects from the world, see them yourself, want to look at recipe of vaxx, than you are being called stupid... nice... its not like not long ago we were told smoking doesnt kill ... but now its different, now those who force you to get vaxx are right dont question anything... silence other doctors that are promoting drugs that work , talk about possible bad cases of taking jab... those doctors arent doctors anymore, they are being called hacks.... only believe one side, this is were we come to be
 
#48
freedom of choice is NOT freedom of consequences
this is the absolutely dumbest notion in this thread.
living your life and not wanting to be bothered by others should now have consequences? crazy.

if the government suddenly decides that you have to run 10km a day for "health reasons" and that you could skip this by paying a 100 euro fine every week. would you believe that this is moral or amoral?

the only reason you support this right now is because you think (its pure ideology) that its "good" that its "the right thing to do".
same as 1933. if you believe you are the good guys anything goes, apparently. the "evil" people are subhumans anyways...

fuck... and that is coming from a jew. I do not even...
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#49
this is the absolutely dumbest notion in this thread.
living your life and not wanting to be bothered by others should now have consequences? crazy.

if the government suddenly decides that you have to run 10km a day for "health reasons" and that you could skip this by paying a 100 euro fine every week. would you believe that this is moral or amoral?

the only reason you support this right now is because you think (its pure ideology) that its "good" that its "the right thing to do".
same as 1933. if you believe you are the good guys anything goes, apparently. the "evil" people are subhumans anyways...

fuck... and that is coming from a jew. I do not even...
they want people to be angry at each other. I just want to be left alone... already lost my job... today I learned my neighbour quit two and some other people too.... Its good that I own small farm, Ill survive for time being...
 

Zolo

Cope Doctor
#51
I am comparing the dehumanization of the unvaccinated with the dehumanization of the jews.
you are going down a dark road without realizing it. this frightens me way more than COVID ever did.
Im called antivaxer even though im not, im called stupid , im called the reason we will get another quarantine even though people dont think that quarantine isnt natural disaster like cunami or erthquake its government thing, people should do referendum and I bet there would be no quarantine... people should be government and not our leaders. my english isnt perfect for such discussions, sorry for that
 

Banchi

yawn-together
#58
This would be "good" and " save the planet". The problems of environmemtal destruction have been around for a much longer time. And people COULD solve them by changing their behavior and thinking about others once in a while. But no, it's the vaccine that makes you a socially responsible person... sike
Yeah really save the planet it's starting to look like Uranus
 
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