General & Others Do you only like a character if they are portrayed as being perfect?

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Dragomir

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#21
Nope. As everyone said, a character should have flaw cause we humans have flaws. A character that one can relate to makes them enjoyable and likeable. Furthermore, those flaws shouldn't just remain in the character. They should be recognized and overcome in some way shape or form that is logical and sensible in order for the character to develop in a consist manner that doesn't completely change them to a new character but still allow them have them change in a way. I think a great example would be Guts from Berserk.

I believe perfect characters are boring but if perhaps the character flaw within them is being perfect then I could see a scenaro where they can be well-written. Otherwise...to hell with them.
 
Ravagerblade

Ravagerblade

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#22
#22
Rekien said:
Nah, miss me with that "perfect" shit....Let the kirito fans or warever enjoy their perfect OP isekai protagonists.

Characters need quirks, consistency, weaknesses and strenghts, we wouldnt like Luffy and Zoro soo much if they where not idiots, or Sanji if he wasnt a pervert cook, or nami if she wasnt greedy, Ussop if he wasnt a weak liar that always manages to surprise everyone with his luck, etc....
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Just don't diss my Tatsuya.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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#25
#25
Is this thread a result of people pointing out that Kaido and big mom are simultaneously terrible characters while also having extremely underwhelming strength showings? Lol

Like I said on my profile, I prefer characters who actually do have flaws and struggles that they go through, so long as those flaws and struggles contribute to deeper themes or character progression instead of simply getting disrespected left and right for the sake of gags and/or hyping other characters. I like characters who have clearly had a lot of thought and complexity put into their personalities and designs, not characters who are inconsistent messes who’s personalities and designs are an amalgamation of random and meaningless traits that serve no story purpose whatsoever.

I’m going to do a big post in some form elaborating what I mean by all of this soon, but the long story short is that if you’re trying to dismiss the underwhelming showing of poorly written and underwhelming characters by brushing it off as people being disappointed that the invincible Kaido was stabbed by Okiku or that “she only got trashed because she was out of her mind!” Lin Lin getting face-fucked by a motorcycle when she’s 100% in mind and focused, then you come off more as someone who would sooner attempt to corrupt discussion around said characters in an attempt to distract people from the disappointing nature of characters that you yourself are a fan of instead of questioning why you should be a fan of them in the first place.

No offense intended.
 
zaman

zaman

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#26
#26
Admiral Lee Hung said:
Is this thread a result of people pointing out that Kaido and big mom are simultaneously terrible characters while also having extremely underwhelming strength showings? Lol

Like I said on my profile, I prefer characters who actually do have flaws and struggles that they go through, so long as those flaws and struggles contribute to deeper themes or character progression instead of simply getting disrespected left and right for the sake of gags and/or hyping other characters. I like characters who have clearly had a lot of thought and complexity put into their personalities and designs, not characters who are inconsistent messes who’s personalities and designs are an amalgamation of random and meaningless traits that serve no story purpose whatsoever.

I’m going to do a big post in some form elaborating what I mean by all of this soon, but the long story short is that if you’re trying to dismiss the underwhelming showing of poorly written and underwhelming characters by brushing it off as people being disappointed that the invincible Kaido was stabbed by Okiku or that “she only got trashed because she was out of her mind!” Lin Lin getting face-fucked by a motorcycle when she’s 100% in mind and focused, then you come off more as someone who would sooner attempt to corrupt discussion around said characters in an attempt to distract people from the disappointing nature of characters that you yourself are a fan of instead of questioning why you should be a fan of them in the first place.

No offense intended.
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It's all about how much it will fit one character to be humiliated. meme was made for it, Kaido too to a good extent. But nobody will humiliate somebody like shanks which is also a yonko as them.While somebody like WB was endured to make us understand how much he stands out among everybody despite his condition.
 
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Ballel

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#27
This is the perfect question for this forum in my opinion! :arnoling:


Some people tend to love a character when they see them as the strongest and trash them and call them worthless if they see them as weak.
Then there are people who are so much into certain characters that they just pretend that their fav is perfect & the strongest.


I personally care about the overall character. Their strength is just one of thrir character traits for me but personality is just as important.
 
Rukusho

Rukusho

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#30
#30
DarkWitch said:
When it comes to liking a character in One Piece, do you care if they are portrayed as being perfect or no? And also when liking a character, do you care how strong they are?
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Nope.

That's the reason why Zoro is my favorite character in OP.

East Blue he is a pompous kid who believes he can win against anyone and everyone not knowing the world until Mihawk humbles him letting him know how big the world is.

Grandline is him figuring out the weakness in swordsmen and how to overcome them also within himself.

Alabasta - Brute strength won't work on every enemy (enter haki == breathe of all things)

Skypeia - Swordsman need air-slashes practices/learns pound cannon

Water7 - Willing to fight the whole government for one person (this applies to all strawwhats) they are all ready to die for each other

ThrillerBark - Steps up as the 1st mate to defend Luffy and saving the crew (Zoro warned Luffy before joining if he gets in the way of his dream Luffy will have to commit seppuku )

Before-TS - Bows to Mihawk asking to be trained (This is extremely dishonorable of Zoro to bow to his enemy and begging to be trained - admitting inferiority but in same breathe mentioning he will kill Mihawk at the same time all for Luffy, Zoro realizing he is still too weak to take on the New World)

This is why I love this character admits he has flaws and works on it, and is extremely loyal and can be tough on his friends.

Some people say he's just a brute but I beg to differ.
 
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