Do you think Anime community is not inclusive about women

#21
Yamato just arrived. What growth is she supposed to have in 10 panels?
Yeah sakura is shit. Nami is fine though. What about Bellemère? Vivi? Shirahoshi's mom?
You talked about Wanda earlier. Haven't seen the Wanda vision serie but if that's your idea of a good female character then maybe you also haven't read or watched any good show with relevant female either because she is the definition of a sex doll :kayneshrug:
We are talking main female lead . I think he covered points on wanda vision .

Sex symbol exist everywhere but its far worse in Hollywood as well untill Weinstein scandal came out. There will be female James bond and more black woman are getting opportunity to play lead role which was not possible decade or so earlier. This is not the case in manga series its still overwhelmingly patriach .
 
#22
Yamato just arrived. What growth is she supposed to have in 10 panels?
Idk maybe not being a delusional cunt who harasses young boys and having a character that consists of more than ‘Oden cosplayer with tits and vag’?

Yeah sakura is shit. Nami is fine though. What about Bellemère? Vivi? Shirahoshi's mom?
Yaaaaaaawn. Stale, self sacrificial mother archetypes filled to the brim with boring Too Good for This Sinful Earth trope.


You talked about Wanda earlier. Haven't seen the Wanda vision serie but if that's your idea of a good female character then maybe you also haven't read or watched any good show with relevant female either because she is the definition of a sex doll :kayneshrug:
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#25
I see anime /manga mostly caters to male gender and there is disparity between men and women who watch anime.

I suppose one of my female friends thinks mangaka/ anime creates fan service that is offputing them from watching or reading it or the plot devise is mostly surround about male MC love interest. Do you think Comic/Manga industry must change their age old chauvism and open upto badass woman lead that could inspire future generations.?
Just last year
1. the Mangaka of Act Age was arrested for being a predator

2. Two convicted sexual predator mangaka were brought back to work for Shueisha simply because they had created good manga before

3. the official translator of jjk in Viz was arrested for possessing Child pornography
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#26
You talked about Wanda earlier. Haven't seen the Wanda vision serie but if that's your idea of a good female character then maybe you also haven't read or watched any good show with relevant female either because she is the definition of a sex doll :kayneshrug:
This is probably the most wrong thing I’ve read in general about the MCU and Wanda’s character lol.

Wanda goes through several character arcs all relating to her coming to grips with her own strength and how she is perceived by others. Oh and also, she almost murdered Thanos on screen and is one of the strongest heroes in the universe so there’s that.

Just because you think she’s attractive, doesn’t make her a sex doll. Nami and Hancock are sex dolls, Wanda is not a sex doll..lol
 
#28
I see anime /manga mostly caters to male gender and there is disparity between men and women who watch anime.

I suppose one of my female friends thinks mangaka/ anime creates fan service that is offputing them from watching or reading it or the plot devise is mostly surround about male MC love interest. Do you think Comic/Manga industry must change their age old chauvism and open upto badass woman lead that could inspire future generations.?
Fanservice is typical Shonen lmao, I think saying that Anime/ manga caters to males based off of this alone is simply a stretch.
Anime/ Manga is a medium, an artform and style, with no 1 specific genre.

There are something for everyone, you have films like the ones from Ghibli which is universally loved, or others like Your Name amongst others. The Mainstream Anime might cater a bit more to males, sure, but I wouldn't for a second say that it's unfriendly for females.
I recently saw an anime about some girl wanting to play football (soccer if you will) with the boys because the women were weaker players, but then the coach pointed out that she should take on the role of bringing up their level and bring hope to the women's football again!
So yeah, nah, I'm heavily disagreeing with this statement, there's something out there for just about anyone.
But most mainstream fanservice animes aren't that great most of the time anyway, and it's also just insentivising horny guys to buy their merch lmaoo.
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Shonen literally means young male, this is specifically targeted at young males, while Shojou means young girl, and this genre is specifically catering to their audience.

So again, I 100% disagree lmao.

Also I'm not saying that Shonen is for boys and Shojou is for girls, what I'm saying is that their target audience is male/ female.
For example Akatsuki no Yona or Nana is a Shojou series, but I love those series so so so much.

If you think that Anime/ manga solely caters to men, then you're gravely mistaken and suffer from tunnel vision, lmao. That's all I have to say about that
 
#29
There is a lot of fangirls in the anime community and a lot of good animes with female mcs, shojos or not.
but the issues is mostly from some animes genres like shonen. It would be more appealing to women readers if they treated their female characters better
Like the lack of important roles or action or being poorly written or even having them as straight up for fan service can be disappointing
And dont get me started on female villains cuz the lack of evil women in anime is sad lol
 
#30
This is probably the most wrong thing I’ve read in general about the MCU and Wanda’s character lol.

Wanda goes through several character arcs all relating to her coming to grips with her own strength and how she is perceived by others. Oh and also, she almost murdered Thanos on screen and is one of the strongest heroes in the universe so there’s that.

Just because you think she’s attractive, doesn’t make her a sex doll. Nami and Hancock are sex dolls, Wanda is not a sex doll..lol
Like I said I didn't watch Wanda vision so I wouldn't know what to think of her as a main character.
As for the MCU, it's getting worse and worse, Endgame was so bad and basically every character had shit portrayal, Wanda included for the small time she had.

As a side character in the previous movies she was OK because she was what I would expect of a side character (female or not). I can't even recall about her story.

Also the love story with vision was ridiculous. A lot less than Banner and Natasha though.
 
#31
There is a lot of fangirls in the anime community and a lot of good animes with female mcs, shojos or not.
but the issues is mostly from some animes genres like shonen. It would be more appealing to women readers if they treated their female characters better
Like the lack of important roles or action or being poorly written or even having them as straight up for fan service can be disappointing
And dont get me started on female villains cuz the lack of evil women in anime is sad lol
I can understand the dissatisfaction with female character writing in Shonen specifically, it's got a lot of room for improval, but I think some of the later ones are starting to get there, Jujutsu Kaisen and Kimetsu no Yaiba seemed very great in that regards, and AoT too I would say, I don't think there were any fanservice in that series.

What I'm saying is that there are a lot of series out there, and while there might be a lack of proper justice for many female characters, there are numerous other series outside of the Shonen genre that just disenchants that belief all together.
You have Seinen (best genre BTW) series like Monster, which has a superbly written female Main(ish) character
 
#33
I can understand the dissatisfaction with female character writing in Shonen specifically, it's got a lot of room for improval, but I think some of the later ones are starting to get there, Jujutsu Kaisen and Kimetsu no Yaiba seemed very great in that regards, and AoT too I would say, I don't think there were any fanservice in that series.

What I'm saying is that there are a lot of series out there, and while there might be a lack of proper justice for many female characters, there are numerous other series outside of the Shonen genre that just disenchants that belief all together.
You have Seinen (best genre BTW) series like Monster, which has a superbly written female Main(ish) character
Yea I feel like it is getting better compared to older series too

Good reminder that I should continue Monster :owo:
 
#37
She literally almost murdered Thanos by herself and would’ve succeeded if she wasn’t trying to make him suffer, not sure how her portrayal could be better lol.
I thought we were talking about character traits, not power level. That stupid line she threw before attacking Thanos was very lame. Like the movie. I've noticed that she was one of the strongest and often plot nerfed.
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Then why the fuck are you talking about her with limited knowledge but you act like you know it all?
I'm talking about the movies, wasn't she in these movies? And where did I say I know about her, read the post before coming with your bullshit.
I'm saying I don't know everything about her and that I'm only judging on the movies and you act like I didn't say that.
She ain't gonna suck your dick because you defend her. What the fuck do you know about her anyway? Acting like she is a real person. Lmao
 

Adam 🍎

Pretty Boy
#38
I'm talking about the movies, wasn't she in these movies? And where did I say I know about her, read the post before coming with your bullshit.
I'm saying I don't know everything about her and that I'm only judging on the movies and you act like I didn't say that.
She ain't gonna suck your dick because you defend her. What the fuck do you know about her anyway? Acting like she is a real person. Lmao
You are out here discussing Wanda for 2 pages without watching a crucial part of her character development. That's like me reading OP and skipping Marineford and then I talk about how BB isn't a good character.

And somehow despite all of that you say I want her to suck my dick and that I am defending her for it?

Much anger in you
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That stupid line she threw before attacking Thanos was very lame.
Yes because Thanos killing her love in front of her when she just killed him only for thanos to turn back time and kill him again doesn't warrant ANY hatred she had for Thanos during Infinity War.
 
#39
You are out here discussing Wanda for 2 pages without watching a crucial part of her character development. That's like me reading OP and skipping Marineford and then I talk about how BB isn't a good character.

And somehow despite all of that you say I want her to suck my dick and that I am defending her for it?

Much anger in you
Yeah yeah I'm very angry rn.
My point still stands, she wasn't interesting enough in the movies to make me want to watch a serie where she is the lead.
Tbf no character (maybe Falcon though) from the MCU has my interest. They are just that bad. Female and male.
 
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