Break Week Does Japan hate Wano

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Herrera95

#61
Lol completely missed my point and it all ended up going full circle.
You changed your point in order to have your argument.
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You are right no volume of One Piece has exceeded 3 million, only the last 47 volumes have done so consecutively in its first edition

Of Redon, Pirate King;

It is finally officially announced from Japan that One Piece has exceeded 500,000,000 copies in print worldwide!! In addition, Volume 103 of the series is the 47th in a row that exceeds 3,000,000 copies in its 1st edition.

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Link?

We had volumes 101 and 102 on half year sales ranking and you are telling me that Volume 103 that was released August 4th already has 3mi copies?
 
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#63
For you and the rest who are not able to read beyond a number:

Of Redon, Pirte King:

One Piece Film Red had a BRUTAL premiere in Japan, becoming the 2nd highest grossing film in its opening weekend in the entire history of Japan ( only behind the Kimetsu no Yaiba Infinity Train movie). It is also the best opening of a film in the month of August in the entire history of Japan. Although we do not have exact data yet, estimates give earnings in its first 2 days in theaters between 2,170,000,000 yen and 2,300,000,000 (about $17 million) with around 1,600,000 tickets sold. It's a far cry from Kimetsu no Yaiba's Infinite Train movie (which grossed ¥3,354,000,000 and sold 2,509,986 tickets in its first 2 days in theaters) but you also have to keep in mind that One Piece Film Red has been released in about 500 theaters across Japan, and the Kimetsu no Yaiba film has been released in more than 1,400 theaters. Obviously it has become the best premiere of a One Piece movie, by far. And it is quite possible that it will break the 10,000,000,000 million yen barrier and become the biggest success that Toei Animation has ever had.
1. One Piece Film Red: Between ¥2,170,000,000 and ¥2,300,000,000 (about $17 million) and around 1,600,000 tickets sold.
2. One Piece Film Z: ¥1,372,000,000 (about $12 million) and 1,012,000 tickets sold.
3. One Piece Film Gold: ¥1,155,000,000 (about $11 million) and 820,830 tickets sold.
4. One Piece Film Strong World: ¥1,038,000,000 (about $12 million) and 819,738 tickets sold.
5. One Piece Stampede: ¥806,000,000 (about $8 million) and 598,000 tickets sold.

I think this shows that One Piece is still at the top and more and more people are consuming it. In case anyone doubted it.
talks about not reading beyond a number ........
then decides to provide movie sales numbers in a thread about the wano arc. honestly made me chuckle a bit.
 
#64
"Declining volume sales."

One Piece has two individual volumes sold in the top five of all manga volumes sincd last November and eclipsed 500 million volumes worldwide, but gotta lie about volume sales bscause everyone has to hate One Piece for self-validation.
Declining volume sales isn't a myth.

You can look up the numbers.

Of course OP is still doing relatively well, but it's a far cry from its glory days in terms of sales (2009-2015).
 
#66
Again, there is no metric for digital sales so stop assuming. We can create thousands of exercises but they are still uneducated assumptions. One Piece current sales per volume is on pace to be less than last year.

Here is a chart of 2021 and prior year sales: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/r5lveu
its not only saturation normally the yonko should be sale 4 Mio as you see PH sales or dressrosa sales
Yonko are the second final enemy after WG the series anticipated them years ago now look at the sales its just dissapointing

because Oda joked with BM and Kaido big heavy fat fighting is nothing thrill

Also the series didnt grow in the past decaede its on stagnate because Oda fails to deliver

Japan has nearly 130 Mio population 2 mio per volume is standart OP doesnt grow anymore

dull fights
teasing and skipping we are not excited anymore
focus on non relevant characters
repeating plot
breaks

OP is in fact steady new readers prefer JJK or MHA over OP
 
#68
Declining volume sales isn't a myth.

You can look up the numbers.

Of course OP is still doing relatively well, but it's a far cry from its glory days in terms of sales (2009-2015).
Can't possibly have anything to so with a big shift industry wide in terms of mediu, emphasis going from physical to digital, and then a two year-long pandemic that cut supply across the world in multiple industries and on top of that, forced people to be home and saving, not out and purchasing.

Can't possibly be due to those things, it has to affirm my opinion that the story is shit and everyone has to hate it because I do.
 
#69
Can't possibly have anything to so with a big shift industry wide in terms of mediu, emphasis going from physical to digital, and then a two year-long pandemic that cut supply across the world in multiple industries and on top of that, forced people to be home and saving, not out and purchasing.

Can't possibly be due to those things, it has to affirm my opinion that the story is shit and everyone has to hate it because I do.
Who said I hated the story?

I still enjoy OP very much, although I have quite some criticism concerning some storywriting decisions.

Yes, the shift to digital forms is obvious, yet even there the numbers don't reach the peak OP once had.
 
#70
We shall see whether or not the Wano arc ending and Film Red has a significant positive effect on the manga sales. If they do not increase that much, then the manga is falling out with the Japanese readers.
 
#71
Yes, the shift to digital forms is obvious, yet even there the numbers don't reach the peak OP once had.
It’s a bit naive to think that the length of the manga doesn’t have anything to do with it. On top of the economic and global shifts that were already mentioned. There will probably be another boom period during the final arc and definitely sales physically and digitally could go up right after the series concludes.

To emphasize the story is due to the decline is a bit naive or so just because it’s not at the peak sales as back during Strong World/Marineford time. Very different era and a lot has changed.
 
#72
Declining volume sales isn't a myth.

You can look up the numbers.

Of course OP is still doing relatively well, but it's a far cry from its glory days in terms of sales (2009-2015).
Declining Volume sales happen to literally all long running series. There's not a single exception. It's a beyond stupid argument to bring up
 
#73
Link?

We had volumes 101 and 102 on half year sales ranking and you are telling me that Volume 103 that was released August 4th already has 3mi copies?
https://www.pirate-king.es/foro/viewtopic.php?p=1437025#p1437025

Surely the guy who told you that One Piece was in the shit and that its sales were falling, you didn't ask him for so many arguments, nor so many Links.

It is possible that here if digital sales are taken into account. Since in the Oricon survey it is usually around 1.7 million. That tells us that at least half of One Piece's sales are digital.

Something that I also told you several times.
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Declining volume sales isn't a myth.

You can look up the numbers.

Of course OP is still doing relatively well, but it's a far cry from its glory days in terms of sales (2009-2015).
@dirtyLarry
In a certain way, the decrease in sales is a myth. The physical sales of the sleeves in general decrease every year, especially of the longest sleeves such as One Piece.

However, those sales are transferred to the digital version that are not taken into account in the Oricon survey. Seeing as volume 103 has sold 3 million copies and on Oricon it's usually around 1.7 million, that tells us that almost half of the sales are digital.
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talks about not reading beyond a number ........
then decides to provide movie sales numbers in a thread about the wano arc. honestly made me chuckle a bit.
@LANJI CUCKSMOKE
I have given more than enough arguments, many more than any of those who say that sales are bad because Wano is bad that they only provide a number.

However, for some of you who do not have your own thoughts and blindly believe in what anyone tells you, I have no choice but to pull the numbers.

And even with that you do not give the arm to twist. You are proof that many times people speak without knowing and you end up turning a lie into a truth because you have no reason.

:whitepress:
 
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#74
https://www.pirate-king.es/foro/viewtopic.php?p=1437025#p1437025

Surely the guy who told you that One Piece was in the shit and that its sales were falling, you didn't ask him for so many arguments, nor so many Links.

It is possible that here if digital sales are taken into account. Since in the Oricon survey it is usually around 1.7 million. That tells us that at least half of One Piece's sales are digital.

Something that I also told you several times.
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@dirtyLarry
In a certain way, the decrease in sales is a myth. The physical sales of the sleeves in general decrease every year, especially of the longest sleeves such as One Piece.

However, those sales are transferred to the digital version that are not taken into account in the Oricon survey. Seeing as volume 103 has sold 3 million copies and on Oricon it's usually around 1.7 million, that tells us that almost half of the sales are digital.
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@LANJI CUCKSMOKE
I have given more than enough arguments, many more than any of those who say that sales are bad because Wano is bad that they only provide a number.

However, for some of you who do not have your own thoughts and blindly believe in what anyone tells you, I have no choice but to pull the numbers.

And even with that you do not give the arm to twist. You are proof that many times people speak without knowing and you end up turning a lie into a truth because you have no reason.

:whitepress:
You know most of this forum is mostly for critical edge lords who love to trash on One Piece any chance they get or when their fav character isn’t being badass. Any contradiction to their way of seeing the series even if you bring up actual statistics and real world economic factors, they will convince themselves otherwise.

Always a waste of time
 
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Herrera95

#75
https://www.pirate-king.es/foro/viewtopic.php?p=1437025#p1437025

Surely the guy who told you that One Piece was in the shit and that its sales were falling, you didn't ask him for so many arguments, nor so many Links.

It is possible that here if digital sales are taken into account. Since in the Oricon survey it is usually around 1.7 million. That tells us that at least half of One Piece's sales are digital.

Something that I also told you several times.
Redon didn't even linked his source.

I went for that myself.

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2244544/full/

I was wrong. 47 volumes over 3mi including volume 67 with 4mi copies. First edition only. But was not the latest volume 103.

Funny enough that volume 67 is from Punk Hazard and not the most hyped arcs WCI/Wano.

"Volume 57 of the comic, which was released on March 4, 2010, recorded the highest first edition circulation of 3 million copies in the history of Japanese publishing, and has maintained the first edition of 3 million copies to date. Volume 67, released on August 3, 2012, was published with a first edition of 4.05 million copies, which broke its own record. "

Good Piece still hits. Not seeing anything good about Hype Piece.

I gonna ask again for Digital Sales link source.
 
#76
Really dont get this guy, he just hate OP and keep trying to show it to other people in every thread, if is soo bad and u hate why u want us to notice u soo much lol.



Pretty obvious that OP can only have a decrease in sales, young people wont start to read It, and if they start, they most likely will read for free or buy the digital version because of the size of the series. In Japan everyone know One Piece, so there's not much market to grow, as basically all people who could start to read, already read it.

Also the post-Shingeki effect in the industry is clear, a good anime improve the sales of the manga, what OP dont have. And if u are young, is much more likely that u start a new series like Kimetsu that have a good anime, is hyped between your friends and u can buy the whole thing in 20 volumes, than u are to start OP, the 20y long series, with 1000 chapters and that isnt a trend between young people anymore.


OP will keep selling a lot, but hardly will grow, because those who buy, are basically the long time readers.
 
#78
Redon didn't even linked his source.

I went for that myself.

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2244544/full/

I was wrong. 47 volumes over 3mi including volume 67 with 4mi copies. First edition only. But was not the latest volume 103.

Funny enough that volume 67 is from Punk Hazard and not the most hyped arcs WCI/Wano.

"Volume 57 of the comic, which was released on March 4, 2010, recorded the highest first edition circulation of 3 million copies in the history of Japanese publishing, and has maintained the first edition of 3 million copies to date. Volume 67, released on August 3, 2012, was published with a first edition of 4.05 million copies, which broke its own record. "

Good Piece still hits. Not seeing anything good about Hype Piece.

I gonna ask again for Digital Sales link source.
Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Could you use your head for a moment, which is for something other than wearing the hat? Draw your own conclusions and be impartial. Don't trust what others say.

Redon himself has proven to be a reliable source.

Of course, we don't have data on digital sales. And even though it has been more than proven that you are just a cry baby trying to make people listen to you, you are still holding on to that last straw. But let's see what we know;

  1. One Piece has sold almost 420 million copies in Japan, which if we divide it by the 102 volumes, gives us approximately 4.2 million per volume.
  2. We know that the last 47 volumes exceeded 3 million copies in their 1st print run. Assume a mean of 3.5 million.
  3. According to the Oricon chart which does not take into account digital sales and box sets, volumes 101 and 102 have sold 1.7 and 1.6 million respectively.
Where are the rest of the sales up to 3.5 million? Taking into account that the latest volumes do not have a box set, they can only be digital sales. Which, using the calculator, leaves us with approximately 50% of One Piece sales being digital.

I don't see it as complicated to understand, but I suppose that for a little sheep that only knows how to follow the shepherd's orders, using the brain on its own must be difficult.

:kata:
 
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Herrera95

#79
Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Could you use your head for a moment, which is for something other than wearing the hat? Draw your own conclusions and be impartial. Don't trust what others say.

Redon himself has proven to be a reliable source.

Of course, we don't have data on digital sales. And even though it has been more than proven that you are just a cry baby trying to make people listen to you, you are still holding on to that last straw. But let's see what we know;

  1. One Piece has sold almost 420 million copies in Japan, which if we divide it by the 102 volumes, gives us approximately 4.2 million per volume.
  2. We know that the last 47 volumes exceeded 3 million copies in their 1st print run. Assume a mean of 3.5 million.
  3. According to the Oricon chart which does not take into account digital sales and box sets, volumes 101 and 102 have sold 1.7 and 1.6 million respectively.
Where are the rest of the sales up to 3.5 million? Taking into account that the latest volumes do not have a box set, they can only be digital sales. Which, using the calculator, leaves us with approximately 50% of One Piece sales being digital.

I don't see it as complicated to understand, but I suppose that for a little sheep that only knows how to follow the shepherd's orders, using the brain on its own must be difficult.

:kata:
Like I said, my link which is the original source says nothing about volume 103 selling 3mi. 47 volumes in a row selling 3mi doesn't mean they were the last volumes. The volumes they are hyping for sales are 57 and 67.

You don't have brain enough to bring proper source and want to talk about how others argue against you.

Learn how to deal with people like an adult.
 
#80
Like I said, my link which is the original source says nothing about volume 103 selling 3mi. 47 volumes in a row selling 3mi doesn't mean they were the last volumes. The volumes they are hyping for sales are 57 and 67.

You don't have brain enough to bring proper source and want to talk about how others argue against you.

Learn how to deal with people like an adult.
Why do you want the font if you can't read afterwards? The same article that you passed, tells you that from volume 57 onwards they have maintained sales of more than 3 million for 1st edition.

Keep living your lie that One Piece is going bad and no one cares.
 
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