Current Events Does Luffy have a chance at winning a 1v2 against Kizaru and Saturn?

AR is running since at least 20 chapters now and he's just a robot why do you expect him to be strong ?

The AR beating or stalling Saturn is even worse than Luffy beating both Kiz and Saturn
 
If your words are correct, Kizaru has an ability that he has not used in this fight
Does he have awaking?
Does he have coc?
we don't know
but Kizaru was so serious that he killed his friend
Well of course. He hasn’t even used his animal themed move based on his epithet. That’s besides not even using Ama no Murakumo himself besides with some clones as a distraction.

Oh yeah, he killed his target too despite Luffy promising to protect him. So where’s the stuff that’s supposed to make it humiliating?
 
Well of course. He hasn’t even used his animal themed move based on his epithet. That’s besides not even using Ama no Murakumo himself besides with some clones as a distraction.

Oh yeah, he killed his target too despite Luffy promising to protect him. So where’s the stuff that’s supposed to make it humiliating?
Humiliating things
To be paralyzed by a fistful of advcoc
Two top tiers cooperated to kill an old man
Kizaru dodging Luffy's fight
Yes, Kizaru is the one who was surprised to have his attack blocked by yc2
 
Another thread another day of Zbois coping their fave isn't fighting Kizaru

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i don't think it's happening, but there was also a time in Wano where Zoro vs King seemed impossible so who knows
Zoro vs King was always the fight. Most people assumed that would be the fight it was only a handful of coping fans who thought he'd either stay down or go back to the rooftop
 
Ah…plot eh? But couldn’t someone just use the same argument for Kizaru? Then you are right back to square one.

Unless you purposefully don’t apply the same standard to Kizaru. I believe that’s called a double standard, no?
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It's funny how this dude is looking for non-existent hypocrisy, rather than realizing Luffy obviously has more narrative weight behind him.

Admiral fandom along with zoro fandom have one thing in common really. They forget luffy is the main character.

That's why you see multiple people comparing this situation to Marco blocking King and Queen lol.
 
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Humiliating things
To be paralyzed by a fistful of advcoc
Two top tiers cooperated to kill an old man
Kizaru dodging Luffy's fight
Yes, Kizaru is the one who was surprised to have his attack blocked by yc2
So….basically just things that you imagined? What a surprise.
Who is paralyzed?
Which 2 top tiers are you seeing? And if killing your target is humiliating, what does that say for the likes of Kaido who couldn’t kill a child?
The same Kaido that dodged Shanks’ fight…just like Luffy dodged the Pacifista cop fight.

And what’s bad about being surprised by the power of love?
Wasn’t Kaido screaming in pain from the power of Kiku inflicting PTSD?
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It's funny how this dude is looking for non-existent hypocrisy, rather than realizing Luffy obviously has more narrative weight behind him.

Admiral fandom along with zoro fandom have one thing in common really. They forget luffy is the main character.

That's why you see multiple people comparing this situation to Marco blocking King and Queen lol.
Ain’t nobody got time for your brand of nonsense Durableguy (or is it Durablepuppy? Seems that that's what folks call ya nowadays. Wouldn’t wanna dishonour a name change).

You may want to go elsewhere to fight these imaginary ghosts denying that Luffy is the main character, because it doesn’t look like anyone’s doing that here.
 
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We just just need the official translation for final confirmation but TCB translation makes it likely. And the opposite in fact. Kizaru might get KO'ed/unable to continue fighting. Saturn 100% has to die or at least "fate unknown", otherwise there was no point in Devon touching him and taking his form because the real Saturn can just go back to Mari Jois and out them in whatever plan they might be trying. His regen might have a limit and/or somehow be vulnerable to some of the ancient tech.
 
I’ve been hesitant to make this claim but the dialogue this chapter honestly makes me think it’s a possibility.

1v1 neither Kizaru nor Saturn are portrayed to be a major threat to Luffy. But combined they could be a greater force than Kaido.

While the aim of the arc is escape, Oda could always use the seraphim to drive the tension of the arc and force the SHs to flee to Elbaf. The seraphim are a massive threat, especially if Luffy is occupied and Zoro gets injured in his fight against Lucci.

For me? Idk

While it seems a bit much, Luffy’s line of not letting Kizaru and Saturn escape reminds me a lot of Luffy breaking the mirror in WCI.

Id say at the very least Kizaru will be KO’d. Saturn might get his ass beat but ultimately regenerate by the arc’s end with his true defeat only happening in the final war.

To defeat Kizaru, grabbing him is the best way tbh
Saturn may resist a punch like that, he'll regerate himself also, sounds like a blade would be ideal to defeat him (before he heals)
 
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