Questions & Mysteries Does the world government know who King is?

[Geo]

there is no natural flame user with wings in one piece world except from Lunarians and devil fruit users (and kings devil fruit is not related to fire)

Again where's your proof?

Zoro thought his fire and wings were his DF ability so ...

 

[Tai long]

Race got extinguished so either there is one or above one , Meme wants races to be added to her country yet she only knows King as lunarian and she has the best intelligence intel according to manga you are capping .

if a race is extinguished there zero of that species so if king is alive then the race is not extinguished and bigmom said she THOUGHT it was extinguished

 

[Geo]

please explain why the gorosei would tell the wg about nika

Why should I explain something which doesn't affect my point in the slightest. The gorosei knowing is the point not them telling fodders

 

[Tai long]

Again where's your proof?

Zoro thought his fire and wings were his DF ability so ...

zoro specifically said he most know kings race to defeat him

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

Goroseis saw Luffy using Rubber during All of the pre ts, and they never got to say oh Luffy has Nika DF and to make things obvious even that mf WsW knows Luffy got that DF that Shanks stole from him so WG who prisoned him would also know that easily mfs are capping .

 

[Geo]

zoro specifically said he most know kings race to defeat him

After he dediced from fighting him that his Wings and fire are not DF.

The fact that his initial guess was that those features were DF abilities already is enough proof to invalidate your claim

 

[Sir Yasheen]

that is the thing they can get free 100 million for just ratting out is ilocation rather than trying to defeat him to get 1.3 billion (which is not possible)

Straight up. It’s free money for no effort. And clearly they’re willing to do it as shown in wano.

At no point did king allude to hiding. But Kaidos quote about selling him out is the thing

 

[Tai long]

After he dediced from fighting him that his Wings and fire are not DF.

The fact that his initial guess was that those features were DF abilities already is enough proof to invalidate your claim

what does zoro not knowing kings fruit even have to do with the wg, they obviously would know what his df is and it is not related to fire at all

 

[Shimotsuki Fenaker]

if a race is extinguished there zero of that species

nah if only one appeared it still means that race got extinguished .

king is alive then the race is not extinguished and bigmom said she THOUGHT it was extinguished

Meme : Race got extinguished.

You : nah they aren't .

 

[Albino 👑]

As if the name King has anything to do with Lunarian
As if there are no winged creatures in OP world
As if there are no flame users in OP.

Even Zoro thought the flames and wings were part of King's DF. So spare me the nonsense coping

? His name wasn't the point at all

How many other black wing races do you know of?
They way lunarians use their flame is unique. Even queen states how rare it is for someone to just naturally use flames

Zoro didn't know what a lunarian was before king...
Man was legit questioning whether he was a Fishman or giant

 

[Tai long]

nah if only one appeared it still means that race got extinguished .

Meme : Race got extinguished.

You : nah they aren't .

supposedly got extinguished is different from 100% sure they where extinguished. and an extinguished race has zero specie

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It’s not pointless tho? If king doesn’t hide his face and the fodder of the beast pirates knew he was a lunarian, he can get betrayed whenever he takes a trip without Kaido and they’ll receive a 100 million berry reward and king ends up getting captured by the WG.

King doesn’t hide his race from the world government. He hides it from those who know where he is and where he’ll be because otherwise he won’t be able to go anywhere without powerful marines waiting for him like what happened with fisher tiger when he brought koala home.

He doesn’t hide from his captors. He hides from those who may sell him out.

Tbh I don’t see the point of hiding his face from fodders in this scenario if the WG knows the truth. They can tattle on him but at this point the WG just needs to keep constant vigilance on King. It seems unnecessary

 

[Geo]

what does zoro not knowing kings fruit even have to do with the wg, they obviously would know what his df is and it is not related to fire at all

The same WG who didn't know Luffy had the Nika fruit right?

Zoro and Marco's initial assumptions should tell you that you only know a user's abilities when you fight them.

So your claim that a winged creature with fire = lunarian is disproved by the manga because according to Zoro, the default stance is DF abilities
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? His name wasn't the point at all

How many other black wing races do you know of?
They way lunarians use their flame is unique. Even queen states how rare it is for someone to just naturally use flames

Zoro didn't know what a lunarian was before king...
Man was legit questioning whether he was a Fishman or giant

We've had flame users since Buggy's arc so moot point.

Zoro not knowing what is a Lunarian is also moot because his default stance was that those abilities were DF abilities.

This means the default stance of a OP character for a winged creature with fire is DF abilities.

It is only after Zoro eliminated DF abilities that he went towards race

 

[Albino 👑]

Tbh I don’t see the point of hiding his face from fodders in this scenario if the WG knows the truth. They can tattle on him but at this point the WG just needs to keep constant vigilance on King. It seems unnecessary

Even if the wg did know they cant really do much unless they want to risk going to war with kaido
King probably just doesn't want everyone too know

Out of the people we know know for a fact

1. Kaido obviously 🗿
2. Linlin could tell automatically
3. Marco was able to tell after putting 2 and 2 together and seeing more of his fire abilities
4. Queen just because

Most people dont really know what lunarians are due to how rare they are. Robin might be the only strawhat that would know but for people that already know what they are its not difficult to tell.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Even if the wg did know they cant really do much unless they want to risk going to war with kaido
King probably just doesn't want everyone too know

Out of the people we know know for a fact

1. Kaido obviously 🗿
2. Linlin could tell automatically
3. Marco was able to tell after putting 2 and 2 together and seeing more of his fire abilities
4. Queen just because

Most people dont really know what lunarians are due to how rare they are. Robin might be the only strawhat that would know but for people that already know what they are its not difficult to tell.

Linlin is touted as having the best web of information in the world.

Marco realized it due to Whitebeard and fighting him for 30+ minutes.

Queen knew probably because of Kaido.

I think, logically, the WG should know. But the fact King is hiding his race and his face 24/7 so nobody knows tells me there’s a reason for it. And IMO the only reason King has to hide is face is to deceive the WG.

 

[Tai long]

The same WG who didn't know Luffy had the Nika fruit right?

Zoro and Marco's initial assumptions should tell you that you only know a user's abilities when you fight them.

So your claim that a winged creature with fire = lunarian is disproved by the manga because according to Zoro, the default stance is DF abilities

zoro is not the world government, are you comparing their knowledge. and macro straight up knew king was from a different specie
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Linlin is touted as having the best web of information in the world.

Marco realized it due to Whitebeard and fighting him for 30+ minutes.

Queen knew probably because of Kaido.

I think, logically, the WG should know. But the fact King is hiding his race and his face 24/7 so nobody knows tells me there’s a reason for it. And IMO the only reason King has to hide is face is to deceive the WG.

if linlin knows then the wg also knows, so the reason why king hide his face is probably from some fodders so they won't be constantly be ratting out his location for 100 million

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Tbh I don’t see the point of hiding his face from fodders in this scenario if the WG knows the truth. They can tattle on him but at this point the WG just needs to keep constant vigilance on King. It seems unnecessary

That’s what the 100 mil is for. Assisting with the constant vigilance

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Big Mom and Marco know that King is a lunarian. If they didn't we could have some room for debate, but since they know then it's clear as day the biggest organization in the world with the best intelligence agency can connect the dots. Remember that CP0 is explicitly addressed as the most powerful intelligence organization in the world; that means above the Big Mom Pirates.

The Government isn't paying 100 millions for information on King but lunarians as a whole; it doesn't matter whether he really is the last one alive or not, in fact that's exactly why the Government needs to offer money for any information regarding the race: to clarify its situation and make sure they don't miss any survivor.

Why would King wear mask? Maybe he doesn't want hundreds of people and organizations apart from the Government (or the Government itself: he would be easier to trace wherever he goes) to know about his secret. Less exposition means less risks, less betrayal, less distrust, less whatever you can think about.

 

[JoNdule]

Linlin is touted as having the best web of information in the world.

Marco realized it due to Whitebeard and fighting him for 30+ minutes.

Queen knew probably because of Kaido.

I think, logically, the WG should know. But the fact King is hiding his race and his face 24/7 so nobody knows tells me there’s a reason for it. And IMO the only reason King has to hide is face is to deceive the WG.

King hides his face because he doesn't want others to know , it will create unnecessary hunt or snitches

WG surely know he's a lunarian, they just can't go after him
While they want everyone to report ot them if they ever meet other lunarians.

 

[comrade]

I too think the WG knows, for they are not dumb. King escaped with Kaido. Now they know King is a black winged guy with fire abilities. King hiding his face is just for the general public. Similarly to Cracker staying in his armor and being depicted as such in his wanted poster.

Also, does the WG think that King is the sole survivor, are the 100 Million specifically for those ratting on King? Or is it just a general bounty to double secure themselves in case some other Lunarians survived or got offspring and are being reported. Or else they just could've printed King's face directly with a bounty poster.