General & Others Does Whitebeard title include Harald and Kaido ?

[Djordje]

I wont pretend that I know Japanese , I dont but two members pointed put to me that Whitebeard title in japanese means world strongest male not world strongest man.

I dont know how legit this is so I am asking others.

Apperently Whitebeard's title is 世界最強の男 being the strongest male, "otoko".

If true this means Whitebeard title includes characters like Harald and Kaido who are males Giant and Oni confirming his superiority over those 2 if doing title scaling.

Also if this is true I offer my apology to @HeroesNZ and @SkySanji and admit they were right in our discussion.

@SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @ZenZu @Extravlad @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @Darkrai1381 @DarkWitch @Mr. Anderson @MonsterKaido @The DevilMaster @Tyki_Mikk @Hanzo hattori

 

[kekaro]

You guys discussed titles more than oda gave a single fuck about
Titles are to generate hype and not absolute oda didnt even know who harald was when he made WB man stop the copium


Did the narrator include WB running away this FB when he said he has no scars from running away?

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Yes it does. When he hit his prime he was slightly stronger than Kaido who was very close to his prime himself.

When he got old he still had the title but Kaido and Harald were stronger most likely.

 

[Djordje]

You guys discussed titles more than oda gave a single fuck about
Titles are to generate hype and not absolute oda didnt even know who harald was when he made WB man stop the copium


Did the narrator include WB running away this FB when he said he has no scars from running away?

Agenda piece have understanding.

 

[SkySanji]

Nobody ever said Whitebeard's title doesn't include Kaido... I've legitimately never seen that argument made in my entire life.

And Kaido has his own World's Strongest title which is superior to Whitebeard's, as it encompasses far more characters.

 

[kekaro]

Also just to make clear because people farted their brains out of this because of agenda:
Wb when his "le narrator unfailable title card" dropped Pre-ts was not WSM either

He was not the strongest pirate, not the strongest old man let alone stronger than guys like imu which are clearly foreshadowed to be dudes with special powers like Luffy

 

[Djordje]

Nobody ever said Whitebeard's title doesn't include Kaido... I've legitimately never seen that argument made in my entire life.

And Kaido has his own World's Strongest title which is superior to Whitebeard's, as it encompasses far more characters.

Kaido stans were trying to convince us how as Oni ( creature) he is not man and not included in WB title.

Anyway

 

[kekaro]

And Kaido has his own World's Strongest title which is superior to Whitebeard's, as it encompasses far more characters.

Whats up with reading the most ass takes on this site from title merchants man
Imagine saying this aloud to someone you know in real life discussing one Piece
They gonna look at you if you are off your meds, please try to speak this sentence aloud

 

[Salah WG]

WB's Title refers to him being able to Destroy The World,
It Includes "Everyone" in terms of Threat, but it doesn't Include Anyone in terms of Duels or Combat Power Level,
However, We do know He is Roger Level & it's all that matters,

Other Roger Equals don't have DFs (Harald, Xebec, Garp, Rayleigh, Gaban, Oden, Shanks), hence why They never had such Titles,
And Only Ones so far who have Both Adv. CoC & Top DF similar to WB are Kaidou, Big Mom & Sengoku,
Kaidou is Strongest Creature, Big Mom is Strongest Woman, Sengoku is Buddha, so WB's Title doesn't really make him stand out,
It's simply the Epithet Oda chose for him, as He is Most Destructive among all these Top Tiers,

 

[kekaro]

WB's Title refers to him being able to Destroy The World,
It Includes "Everyone" in terms of Threat, but it doesn't Include Anyone in terms of Duels or Combat Power Level,
However, We do know He is Roger Level & it's all that matters,

Other Roger Equals don't have DFs (Harald, Xebec, Garp, Rayleigh, Gaban, Oden, Shanks),
And Only Ones so far who have Both Adv. CoC & Top DF similar to WB are Kaidou, Big Mom & Sengoku,
Kaidou is Strongest Creature, Big Mom is Strongest Woman, Sengoku is Buddha, so WB's Title doesn't really make him stand out,
It's simply the Epithet Oda chose for him, as He is Most Destructive among all these Top Tiers,

I gonna give it to you your theories and copes are so out there its atleast entertaining to read

 

[SkySanji]

Whats up with reading the most ass takes on this site from title merchants man
Imagine saying this aloud to someone you know in real life discussing one Piece
They gonna look at you if you are off your meds, please try to speak this sentence aloud

You have this strange impression that I give even the slightest fuck over what you or anyone else thinks about my takes.

 

[kekaro]

You have this strange impression that I give even the slightest fuck over what you or anyone else thinks about my takes.

So you posting on a forum into the void?
Ok very cool

 

[Owl Ki]

I wont pretend that I know Japanese , I dont but two members pointed put to me that Whitebeard title in japanese means world strongest male not world strongest man.

I dont know how legit this is so I am asking others.

Apperently Whitebeard's title is 世界最強の男 being the strongest male, "otoko".

If true this means Whitebeard title includes characters like Harald and Kaido who are males Giant and Oni confirming his superiority over those 2 if doing title scaling.

Also if this is true I offer my apology to @HeroesNZ and @SkySanji and admit they were right in our discussion.

@SakazOuki @Kurozumi Wiwi @The White Crane @ZenZu @Extravlad @haxxor @EmperorKinyagi @Blackbeard @Owl Ki @TheKnightOfTheSea @Darkrai1381 @DarkWitch @Mr. Anderson @MonsterKaido @The DevilMaster @Tyki_Mikk @Hanzo hattori

Well since I got tagged, I'll respond.

If Whitebeard's title is meant to be about all males regardless of species rather than about being the strongest human then it sure is strange that a World's Strongest Creature title exists and that it belongs to a male character and it is also strange that a World's Strongest Female title sure doesn't exists.

That is my initial response to this.

My other response to this is that this World's Strongest Male upscales Whitebeard in general and should specifically upscale him over Kaido so I don't mind the argument that much.

 

[SkySanji]

So you posting on a forum into the void?
Ok very cool

I'm not posting here to appease you or get you to like me, your opinion is worth less than dirt to me.

 

[kekaro]

I'm not posting here to appease you or get you to like me, your opinion is worth less than dirt to me.

You said anyone tough bro
So you are legit blogposting in a forum when called out, keep doing it

 

[SkySanji]

You said anyone tough bro
So you are legit blogposting in a forum when called out, keep doing it

You or anyone, but right now I'm talking to you specifically.

 

[Bad English]

WB was strongest man and strongest pirate. Kaido is included as a pirate but idk if Harald counts like a default man..

 

[MonochromeYoru]

includes kaido but not harald

 

[Garp the Fist]

I imagine that it is intentionally ambiguous in Japanese as to how Whitebeard’s title and Kaido’s square up to each other. And I suppose Harald can fit into that.

Personally, I would think that WSC would have to encompass everything including Whitebeard, but it might be that Oda sees it differently and that it‘s a separation by species, with Kaido’s title having more to do with either him being an oni, or maybe even his DF. However, I also think Whitebeard has better portrayal than Kaido does, so how do I square that circle?

In general I think that Harald is portrayed on their level, but not equal to either. Just because he clashed with Rocks, doesn’t mean other characters are incapable of doing the same. And I think he would have to fall under one title or the other, although I don’t think we know for sure (outside of the easily contradicted Vivre Cards) if he was alive when both characters had their titles.

I don’t think we even know for sure if Kaido was called the WSC before Whitebeard died, but I might be wrong with that.

 

[ZenZu]

Title scaling in the big 2025