General & Others Does Whitebeard title include Harald and Kaido ?

#22
Well since I got tagged, I'll respond.

If Whitebeard's title is meant to be about all males regardless of species rather than about being the strongest human then it sure is strange that a World's Strongest Creature title exists and that it belongs to a male character and it is also strange that a World's Strongest Female title sure doesn't exists.:memehm:

That is my initial response to this. :saturn:

My other response to this is that this World's Strongest Male upscales Whitebeard in general and should specifically upscale him over Kaido so I don't mind the argument that much. :madmonk:
You need to remember that Kaido WSC title got introduced to us after WB died not before and he straight up inherited world strongest pirate title from WB . No manga evidence those titles coexisted.
 
#25
I wont pretend that I know Japanese , I dont but two members pointed put to me that Whitebeard title in japanese means world strongest male not world strongest man.

I dont know how legit this is so I am asking others.

Apperently Whitebeard's title is 世界最強の男 being the strongest male, "otoko".

If true this means Whitebeard title includes characters like Harald and Kaido who are males Giant and Oni confirming his superiority over those 2 if doing title scaling.

Also if this is true I offer my apology to @HeroesNZ and @SkySanji and admit they were right in our discussion.

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Gotta stop this nonsense

When I look at those three it kind of reminds me of WSC, WSS and WSM all lined up together.

But WB's title doesn't mean he beats every man in a 1v1. Oda has never been that blatant. We can make up reasons as to why he's the WSM, but I think it's obviously to do with his top tier stats combined with his destructive quake fruit that makes him this.

If it meant he beats every man 1v1, then Oda would have never insinuated in an SBS, that Mihawk, Shanks and WB would all bear their weighty ideals against eachother. Why would Oda pit two "men" against the WSM if it was so obvious WB is gonna win that 1v1v1?

This extends to every title.

The WSM can lose to the WSS, and vice verca. Being the strongest doesn't guarantee you win every fight. That is why Luffy beat Kaido, that is why Zoro is going to beat Mihawk.

These titles are just to hype up a persons abilities, the obvious disadvantage is that the fanbase will try and contain them to their title box, but it is what it is
 
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#26
You need to remember that Kaido WSC title got introduced to us after WB died not before and he straight up inherited world strongest pirate title from WB . No manga evidence those titles coexisted.
If it's about my first paragraph then I still say it is strange that Kaido didn't get the "World's Strongest Male" title if it's meant to be all males regardless of species. Why even have a WSC title then? :kayneshrug:

If it is about my second paragraph, Whitebeard is my favourite character and it feels like he ain't had a solid W since Marineford Arc. The Shirohige Fandom be eating scraps over here after Wano, Oden and Oda butchered the big man's character. :josad:
 
#27
Gotta stop this nonsense

When I look at those three it kind of reminds me of WSC, WSS and WSM all lined up together.

But WB's title doesn't mean he beats every man in a 1v1. He's never been that blatant. We can make up reasons as to why he's the WSM, but I think it's obviously to do with his top tier stats combined with his destructive quake fruit that makes him this.

If it meant he beats every man 1v1, then Oda would have never insinuated in an SBS, that Mihawk, Shanks and WB would all bear their weighty ideals against eachother. Why would Oda pit two "men" against the WSM if it was so obvious WB is gonna win that 1v1v1?

This extends to every title.

The WSM can lose to the WSS, and vice verca. Being the strongest doesn't guarantee you win every fight. That is why Luffy beat Kaido, that is why Zoro is going to beat Mihawk.

These titles are just to hype up a persons abilities, the obvious disadvantage is that the fanbase will try and contain them to their title box, but it is what it is
A high IQ post here? :finally:
 
#28
You need to remember that Kaido WSC title got introduced to us after WB died not before and he straight up inherited world strongest pirate title from WB . No manga evidence those titles coexisted.
this
anyway the hierarchy is clearly Harald > Primebeard >= Kaido. I don't think Oda intends for Primebeard to be above Harald as that's very contradictory to what he's established
 
#36
Harald? Yes.
Kaidou? No.

They don't exist at the same time.

Whitebeard was way past his prime when Kaidou achieved his title.
Kaidou took on the strongest reigns after Whitebeard.
Then Mihawk took the reign Forward as WSS.

Neither of these at their prime existed together.
 
#37
Harald? Yes.
Kaidou? No.

They don't exist at the same time.

Whitebeard was way past his prime when Kaidou achieved his title.
Kaidou took on the strongest reigns after Whitebeard.
Then Mihawk took the reign Forward as WSS.

Neither of these at their prime existed together.
Kaido took the reign when WB got past his prime is true.

Mihawk part is complete headcanon and his and Kaido prime exist at same time where Kaido is superior one.
 
#38
Kaido took the reign when WB got past his prime is true.

Mihawk part is complete headcanon and his and Kaido prime exist at same time where Kaido is superior one.
No they didn't lol.
Kaidou prime was Fight against oden, a full fledged Yonkou.

Mihawk was in his 20s back then.

Currently Mihawk has WSS, 43 yo.
Kaidou is 59. His prime is ofc in decline if he's hitting 60 lol.
 
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