Powers & Abilities Does Zoro have AdvCoC?

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Purgatori Onigiri is an air slash..
Purgatori Onigiri is a close range attack.


It became a range attack after Zoro added ACoC to it.


Zoro knew flying slashes and flowing CoA haki prior to Wano.

That's how you can't read, Zoro didn't blow King off, Zoro got blown.. And they connected prior to that, if it was AdCoC they wouldn't have touched in the first place when they clashed..
You don't understand the sequence of the events. It goes like this:

- King attacked Zoro in mid air
- Zoro blocked King's attack
- King changed his sword to sword catcher to try to take Zoro's swords
- Zoro released ACoC from his body or used no touch ACoC to blow King away from his swords and himself


CoC and CoA are completely different, CoA is internally, CoC is externally..
Yes they are different. CoA can be used externally or internally. The following scene explains that.
Zoro uses barrier CoA haki externally to cut cut Kaido. Luffy uses internal destruction CoA to by pass Kaido's scale and damage him internally.

That's another area where you fail to understand the basic..

It's not that CoA can be applied to CoC.. It's CoC can be applied as CoA..

There's no CoA involved in AdCoC, it's just an application of the CoA concept as CoC..
Go back and read my post. I said the skills used to flow CoA haki can be applied to CoC. That's how Luffy and Zoro learned ACoC so quickly. That's why Luffy remembered his flowing CoA haki training with Hyou prior to using ACoC. You can use both techniques at the same time or separately.
 
Purgatori Onigiri is a close range attack.


It became a range attack after Zoro added ACoC to it.


Zoro knew flying slashes and flowing CoA haki prior to Wano.


You don't understand the sequence of the events. It goes like this:

- King attacked Zoro in mid air
- Zoro blocked King's attack
- King changed his sword to sword catcher to try to take Zoro's swords
- Zoro released ACoC from his body or used no touch ACoC to blow King away from his swords and himself



Yes they are different. CoA can be used externally or internally. The following scene explains that.
Zoro uses barrier CoA haki externally to cut cut Kaido. Luffy uses internal destruction CoA to by pass Kaido's scale and damage him internally.


Go back and read my post. I said the skills used to flow CoA haki can be applied to CoC. That's how Luffy and Zoro learned ACoC so quickly. That's why Luffy remembered his flowing CoA haki training with Hyou prior to using ACoC. You can use both techniques at the same time or separately.
Purgatory Onigiri can be both flying or not..

Zoro didn't release no AdCoC, he hold on to his Swords which created a CoA clash.. If AdCoC was involved Swords wouldn't have connected from the get go, it's simple..
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Kaido has AdvCoc and yet all his attacks made contact… Same as Yamato

but Zoro’s attacks making contact means he doesnt have AdvCoC, but everyone else does
Contextual importance in the Narrative..




If Zoro was using AdCoC for the first time in the story, just like Luffy his attack wouldn't have touched..
But AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship so Zoro will never learn that, that's why Black Blades exist..
 
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What if he used it after the swords already clashed though as everyone keeps saying???
Yeah, i heard you the first time.. The whole point is using it as they clash not after.. And he would have used it the whole fight as well..

Where is the '' no touching '' in Dragon Damnation?.. You're trying to focus on a single scene instead of looking at the entire picture of the fight..
 
If he was using AdCoC, the entirety of the fight would have been '' no touch '', just like Luffy because it's a new power reveal..
It's so apparent that Zoro doesn't have AdCoC, Haki WSS is a different path than Haki Pirate King..
As always you're on the subject again. Even if you go against the norm, at least leave it until there is new evidence. When chapter 1035 comes out in color. Because for you it's all about colors, although by the way in the anime, the color of Zoro's rays are from AdvCoC.

Besides, you keep insisting with the stupidity of "not touching". "Do not touch" is not a characteristic of the AdvCoC, but of the Ryuuou.

If you want to continue thinking that Zoro does not have AdvCoC, there you go, but at least admit once and for all that "do not touch" is not a valid argument, because it is more than proven.



Stupidity has to have limits. :whitepress:
 
Kaido has AdvCoc and yet all his attacks made contact… Same as Yamato

but Zoro’s attacks making contact means he doesnt have AdvCoC, but everyone else does
What if Internal destruction Armament is required to do the no touch version of AdvCoC? Assuming they're used simultaneously. Big Mom can also use both which is why she's shown it where as Kaido has not.
 
What if Internal destruction Armament is required to do the no touch version of AdvCoC? Assuming they're used simultaneously. Big Mom can also use both which is why she's shown it where as Kaido has not.
Only when two AdvCoC attacks collide does the "no touch" effect occur. As you can see with Kaido, Yamato and Zoro, they do hit their enemies.

The "don't hit" effect is something of the AdvCoA, as defined by Hyogoro and we see how Luffy "doesn't hit" Kaido. Also, we can tell that Big Mom also has AdvCoA since she "doesn't hit" Page One. Which fits perfectly because Kaido hints that he can also see the future, so he has AdvCoO.
 
What if Internal destruction Armament is required to do the no touch version of AdvCoC? Assuming they're used simultaneously. Big Mom can also use both which is why she's shown it where as Kaido has not.
This no touch ACoC is the exact same thing that Luffy had Hyou teach him during the prison training.




The only difference is he's doing no touch with ACoC haki instead of CoA haki. That's why Luffy remembered his training when he first learned to ACoC.
 
But AdCoC is not related to Swordsmanship so Zoro will never learn that, that's why Black Blades exist..
… And Kaido and Yamato who also make contact with AdvCoC?
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What if Internal destruction Armament is required to do the no touch version of AdvCoC? Assuming they're used simultaneously. Big Mom can also use both which is why she's shown it where as Kaido has not.
@Sentry22 kaido has AdvCoC
 
As always you're on the subject again. Even if you go against the norm, at least leave it until there is new evidence. When chapter 1035 comes out in color. Because for you it's all about colors, although by the way in the anime, the color of Zoro's rays are from AdvCoC.

Besides, you keep insisting with the stupidity of "not touching". "Do not touch" is not a characteristic of the AdvCoC, but of the Ryuuou.

If you want to continue thinking that Zoro does not have AdvCoC, there you go, but at least admit once and for all that "do not touch" is not a valid argument, because it is more than proven.



Stupidity has to have limits. :whitepress:

CoA level 2 emission do not touch but it's lacking the other traits..

AdCoC is a combination of not touching, internal damagae and converging Haki trails..

I keep saying this to many of you, Oda can't show the '' no touching '' part before Luffy showcased it..

And no, in the anime Zoro's ray is not AdCoC either.. Black Red lightning has be proven to be CoA..
 
CoA level 2 emission do not touch but it's lacking the other traits..

AdCoC is a combination of not touching, internal damagae and converging Haki trails..

I keep saying this to many of you, Oda can't show the '' no touching '' part before Luffy showcased it..
I've explained it to you several times, putting up panels from the manga and all, but you keep holding on to your ideas no matter what the evidence is against you.

We've never been told that the AdvCoC has the ability to hit without touching. Like they've done with the AdvCoA. This is something you made up yourself. And besides, there is evidence that shows the opposite.



This is the first confirmed AdvCoC attack, which Luffy learns of. Right when this new power appears, a new visual effect appears, the contrails. Anyone with eyes can tell that contrails are the signature visual effect of AdvCoC, except you. Contrails that only appear on Luffy casually when he learns AdvCoC and on Zoro when he casually awakens the CoC.

Still following your game, Oda can't show the '' no touching '' part before Luffy showcased it.. it doesn't make sense for the contrails to appear then. Either all the effects appear or none, but not only those that do not suit you.

Also, there are several examples where Kaido hits Luffy with AdvCoC, such as when he gets off with CP0:



And here it is no longer valid Oda can't show the '' no touching '' part before Luffy showcased it..

If you want to doubt Zoro, go ahead, but it's undeniable that it's only when two AdvCoC attacks face off that they don't touch. That's what the manga shows.

And no, in the anime Zoro's ray is not AdCoC either.. Black Red lightning has be proven to be CoA..


Luffy's first attack using AdvCoC...



Zoro waking up CoC, knocking out the randoms and showing the same wake as Luffy.

I think the resemblance is more than reasonable :choppawhat:
 
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