Speculations Doflamingo's Bounty

grey matter

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SkySanji said:
Weaker + worse fruit + not as relevant to the story
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Doflamingo is an upgraded Crocodile - superior portrayal in MF, a shichibukai who succeeded in taking over a country...... why would he be weaker?
Aokiji spoke of Doffy and Boa, and said he was different/dangerous even compared to her.

As for relevancy, Doflamingo was an arc/saga main villain in new world, was the cog that held together the new world balance. His role as an arc villain was very much comparable to Crocodile's role as an arc villain.
Boa is irrelevant AF.
Crocodile is more relevant currently, but he too was irrelevant until CG. We are talking of if/when Doffy breaks out, he would be as relevant as Crocodile.
 
SkySanji

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grey matter said:
Doflamingo is an upgraded Crocodile - superior portrayal in MF, a shichibukai who succeeded in taking over a country...... why would he be weaker?
Aokiji spoke of Doffy and Boa, and said he was different/dangerous even compared to her.

As for relevancy, Doflamingo was an arc/saga main villain in new world, was the cog that held together the new world balance. His role as an arc villain was very much comparable to Crocodile's role as an arc villain.
Boa is irrelevant AF.
Crocodile is more relevant currently, but he too was irrelevant until CG. We are talking of if/when Doffy breaks out, he would be as relevant as Crocodile.
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He's weaker because plot demanded he be weaker, Crocodile is relevant in the story way after Doflamingo's downfall and is now one of the front runners of a Yonko organization, and I don't subscribe to the "prison gains" bullshit, Doflamingo will be marginally stronger if at all if and when he breaks out.

No he didn't say that at all, he said he's a different class of pirate to Boa, which can be interpreted countless ways.

Emphasis on "was", meaning no longer, Doflamingo already had a bounty for what he "was", all that matters is what he'll be, and what he'll be is nothing to Crocodile, Crocodile is his replacement in every way imaginable.

Doflamingo will never be as relevant as Crocodile, first of all, Doflamingo cannot join Cross Guild, we know this because Crocodile already said he'd never work with him, so what else does that leave Doflamingo with? Pretty much nothing.
 
sanjikun

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The only original Warlord with a higher bounty than Doffy was Mihawk (and Im assuming because his bounty wasnt shown).

Not Kuma, not Prime Moriah, and certainly not Croc had/will have a higher bounty than him. He will easily be 3B if he does escape.
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SkySanji said:
He's weaker because plot demanded he be weaker, Crocodile is relevant in the story way after Doflamingo's downfall and is now one of the front runners of a Yonko organization, and I don't subscribe to the "prison gains" bullshit, Doflamingo will be marginally stronger if at all if and when he breaks out.

No he didn't say that at all, he said he's a different class of pirate to Boa, which can be interpreted countless ways.

Emphasis on "was", meaning no longer, Doflamingo already had a bounty for what he "was", all that matters is what he'll be, and what he'll be is nothing to Crocodile, Crocodile is his replacement in every way imaginable.

Doflamingo will never be as relevant as Crocodile, first of all, Doflamingo cannot join Cross Guild, we know this because Crocodile already said he'd never work with him, so what else does that leave Doflamingo with? Pretty much nothing.
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Lmao imagine being this salty over a fictional character.

Doflamingo had an Admiral, ex-Fleet Admiral and one of the strongest Vice Admirals guarding his ship, but he's not "as relevant" as Crocodile.
 
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Kiiro

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Well, comparing Kidd, Law, Crocodile, Boa with Doffy, Doffy has or had:

1.- A Kingdom like Boa.
2.- Biggest broker unlike any above.
3.- Power equal to Law or Kidd.
4.- Military power like Boa and unlike the others.
5.- Allies unlike any of them.
6.- CoC like Boa.
7.- His crimes are much more worst than any of them.
8.- Has a secret that should mobilize a huge military draft like Vegapunk, he should be killed.
9.- Has a strong crew unlike them.

Well, Doffy has what they have, but much more, he is a combination of all of them. So his bounty should be from 2.5 billion to 3.2 billion imo.
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grey matter said:
Luffy, Law and Kid got (Kaido + BM bounty)/3
Luffy and Law got 500 million each after beating Doffy, meaning Doffy's bounty likely was 1 billion in Oda's mind, if not for the bounty freeze

But that is before the later shichibukai wank from Oda post Wano. Doflamingo always had better portrayal than Crocodile

So........
Doffy'd bounty floor is 1 billion, and expected bounty in case of prison break IMO is 2 billion
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Did Luffy defeat Big Mom?

Did Law and Kidd defeat Kaido?

Why did Zoro get a lower bounty than King, he the bounty combined of Kaido in King is more than 5 billion? I mean, Zoro and Killer also helped in the roof top.

Why didnt Killer and Zoro get a split of Big Mom and Kaido's bounty? Not being captain is a bullshit as Law and Kidd didnt defeat Kaido... other whise they should get Big Mom's bounty splitted in 2 while Luffy should have a higher bounty than them for solo'ing Kaido.

Why does Robin have a much higher bounty now and not before?

500 Million Law and 500 million Luffy is stupid and using this argument just shows how pathetic you can be, when 330 Sanji was already fighting high diff a pirate with 1.3 billion already and 500 million Luffy is far stronger than that Sanji lol.

Law and Luffy bounty was way low for their real threat and power.
 
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wrongidea

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Crocodile's bounty based on his Strength and influence that's why he got so higho bounty surpassing know YC.
Doffy influences are similiar to Crocodile if not vastly superior, that's why he's the Joker. They could have close bounty but regarding he was a Tenryubito his bounty should be higher than 2 Billions.

2B 233M 444K Berries.
 
grey matter

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Kiiro said:
Did Luffy defeat Big Mom?

Did Law and Kidd defeat Kaido?

Why did Zoro get a lower bounty than King, he the bounty combined of Kaido in King is more than 5 billion? I mean, Zoro and Killer also helped in the roof top.

Why didnt Killer and Zoro get a split of Big Mom and Kaido's bounty? Not being captain is a bullshit as Law and Kidd didnt defeat Kaido... other whise they should get Big Mom's bounty splitted in 2 while Luffy should have a higher bounty than them for solo'ing Kaido.

Why does Robin have a much higher bounty now and not before?

500 Million Law and 500 million Luffy is stupid and using this argument just shows how pathetic you can be, when 330 Sanji was already fighting high diff a pirate with 1.3 billion already and 500 million Luffy is far stronger than that Sanji lol.

Law and Luffy bounty was way low for their real threat and power.
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Why are you sperging out at me schizo, when I am defending Doflamingo here??

The Sanji point is false equivalence, because he had 330 million BEFORE Wano, not after defeating Queen. Luffy and Law got 500 million AFTER taking down Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy sharing the bounty after Doflamingo, is pretty much identical scenario of Law/Luffy/Kid sharing bounty after Kaido/BM. The pattern here is very clear and obvious.

I am not saying 1 billion is what Doflamingo's bounty will be now, if he breaks out. I am just saying that is what Oda had in mind for Doflamingo's unfrozen bounty, back during Dresrossa arc.
Context have changed, with Oda hyping shichibukai again. So if Doflamingo breaks out and joins CG, 2 billion bounty will be his floor, as I already mentioned in my post.
 
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grey matter said:
Why are you sperging out at me schizo, when I am defending Doflamingo here??

The Sanji point is false equivalence, because he had 330 million BEFORE Wano, not after defeating Queen. Luffy and Law got 500 million AFTER taking down Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy sharing the bounty after Doflamingo, is pretty much identical scenario of Law/Luffy/Kid sharing bounty after Kaido/BM. The pattern here is very clear and obvious.

I am not saying 1 billion is what Doflamingo's bounty will be now, if he breaks out. I am just saying that is what Oda had in mind for Doflamingo's unfrozen bounty, back during Dresrossa arc.
Context have changed, with Oda hyping shichibukai again. So if Doflamingo breaks out and joins CG, 2 billion bounty will be his floor, as I already mentioned in my post.
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He's not having a bounty above Croco

Doffy was only better than pre ts Croco
Even then, Croco was ~ base Doffy per MF portrayal & clash
Current Croco is someone who became even more famous ,

Doffy having 2B cause Croco has 1
9B is just wishes based on pre ts stuff.
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sanjikun said:
The only original Warlord with a higher bounty than Doffy was Mihawk (and Im assuming because his bounty wasnt shown).

Not Kuma, not Prime Moriah, and certainly not Croc had/will have a higher bounty than him. He will easily be 3B if he does escape.
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Lmao imagine being this salty over a fictional character.

Doflamingo had an Admiral, ex-Fleet Admiral and one of the strongest Vice Admirals guarding his ship, but he's not "as relevant" as Crocodile.
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He's not having 3B, nor 2ab
His bounty was only 20M above Moriah

Why would he have 3B?
3B is for people who are top tiers or beaten Yonko /Admirals, people who are above warlords and YCs

Doffy needs to prove he's above Current Croco first.
Hell, he must prove he's above Jinbei
 
grey matter

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JoNdule said:
He's not having a bounty above Croco

Doffy was only better than pre ts Croco
Even then, Croco was ~ base Doffy per MF portrayal & clash
Current Croco is someone who became even more famous ,

Doffy having 2B cause Croco has 1
9B is just wishes based on pre ts stuff.
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Crocodile didn't magically get stronger in the timeskip. He is a veteran in his mid 40s.

Oda simply adjusted his power to what narratively makes sense given his global portrayal. This was basically what was done in Marineford, getting meme'd as prison buff.
And there we saw, Doflamingo getting a portrayal over Crocodile.

Doflamingo's narrative is also a more successful Crocodile - both being mafia/underworld bosses, where Doflamingo succeeded in taking over the target country when Crocodile failed.

If Doflamingo ever gets out of prison and joins CG, then Crocodile's bounty is his floor.
Since Doflamingo wouldn't be anything less than a commander in CG, sharing position with Crocodile. And his resume and infamy outside of CG is just better than Crocodile's.
 
Sir Yasheen

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grey matter said:
Crocodile didn't magically get stronger in the timeskip. He is a veteran in his mid 40s.

Oda simply adjusted his power to what narratively makes sense given his global portrayal. This was basically what was done in Marineford, getting meme'd as prison buff.
And there we saw, Doflamingo getting a portrayal over Crocodile.

Doflamingo's narrative is also a more successful Crocodile - both being mafia/underworld bosses, where Doflamingo succeeded in taking over the target country when Crocodile failed.

If Doflamingo ever gets out of prison and joins CG, then Crocodile's bounty is his floor.
Since Doflamingo wouldn't be anything less than a commander in CG, sharing position with Crocodile. And his resume and infamy outside of CG is just better than Crocodile's.
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Crocodile was in his peak 20 years prior to the story regaining peak strength is different from getting stronger.

Doflamingo joining Cross Guild will make him exactly what Oda said he’d be in Marineford, Crocs Henchman.
 
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Dolan san said:
It not his strength that dangerous its his knowledge. Plus if the wg knew about him being the most influential broker, can easily see him getting a 3 billion plus bounty
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They already what knowledge he holds though. National treasure of Holyland and CP0 came to Wano after Doflamingo was taken out. They were aware of everything.
 
Kiiro

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grey matter said:
Why are you sperging out at me schizo, when I am defending Doflamingo here??

The Sanji point is false equivalence, because he had 330 million BEFORE Wano, not after defeating Queen. Luffy and Law got 500 million AFTER taking down Doflamingo.
Law/Luffy sharing the bounty after Doflamingo, is pretty much identical scenario of Law/Luffy/Kid sharing bounty after Kaido/BM. The pattern here is very clear and obvious.

I am not saying 1 billion is what Doflamingo's bounty will be now, if he breaks out. I am just saying that is what Oda had in mind for Doflamingo's unfrozen bounty, back during Dresrossa arc.
Context have changed, with Oda hyping shichibukai again. So if Doflamingo breaks out and joins CG, 2 billion bounty will be his floor, as I already mentioned in my post.
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You arent. I am showing that Bounty aint a precise power level threat or overall threat. Luffy and Law having 500 million each, doesnt mean that Doffy at least will be 1 billion when Luffy 500 million already defeat a billion pirate threat, while 500 million Law defeated Big Mom in a 2 vs 1. Their bounties were lower for their real power and threat.

We then have Sanji with 330 fighting a Queen with 1.3 billion. Once again, Sanji bounty was also low for his real power level.

And no, it aint the samw scenario since Killer and Zoro also fought Kaido and Big Mom yet they didnt get the credit for it, just as Law and Kidd's 3 billion bounty is inflated as they shouod get the split of Big Mom, not Big Mom and Kaido.

And I understand your point, I am just trying to show that 500 million Law and Luffy was to low for their real power and threat.
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Sir Yasheen said:
Crocodile was in his peak 20 years prior to the story regaining peak strength is different from getting stronger.

Doflamingo joining Cross Guild will make him exactly what Oda said he’d be in Marineford, Crocs Henchman.
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Crocodile aint even the leader. It is Buggy. Crocodile and Mihawk couldnt even control Buggy lol.
 
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