Oden didn't need Enma to cut Kaido. He already had pretty strong armament to begin with which is why both Ame no habakiri and Enma made a cut.
The same is true with the scabbards. They were all directly taught by Oden on how to use his style and Oden's haki which is what Kaido was referring to. The only problem is the scabbards aren't as good as Oden which is why the cuts were shallow.
We saw Zoro fail to cut Kaido in his first attempt which makes it pretty clear that he isn't able to do the same thing without putting more power into Enma.
Big Mom doesn't have Oden PTSD and she was pretty certain that the blade was unique and or dangerous in some way.
Saying Enma doesn't give a power boost or that it isn't directly related to Zoro cutting Kaido is to ignore manga facts. There's plenty of evidence to back this up. But we already knew all this about Enma before the rooftop fight even started.
It is
Portrayal wise :
Named chapter for this sword (Only Enma and Sandai get one)
Oda din't give named chapters for training tool or Training in general only for actual PU
G4, Asura, DJ CoC and so on
But not every PU get one
It also gets an half chapter of showcase and was introduced a few chapters before it reveals
On top of that Top Tier reactions to this sword.
None of Zoro's sword get so much hype and we all accept them as PU
As for the haki gimmick all of Zoro's sword had one
Shusui was heavy, hard to control and cuts were "inacurrate"
Sandai had his own behavior
Story wise :
If it's a training tool why we get way more panel for the showcase of Enma than for the actual training ?
Why will Hiyory take back Shusui before they goes to Onigashima ?
Enma let one cut like most of Zoro 's attack, Like Shusui did. If each attack is 100 Enma could be responsible of 60% and each others swords of 20%
That' s still one cut but Enma did most of the job
Isn' t Shusui a P.U ?
Its both...yes technically as he uses it he gets accustomed to The mechanism.. as he uses its perks to his advantage.
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Dissmiss FALLACIES..
When Kaido specifies IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADE then say OwO AtLeast He DiDn't SaY OtHeR SwORds Didn't Cut Him... IS REDUNDANT.. how can you state such a statement with a straight face?
Even if you take it froma different perspective (it seems like my previous statement about onigiri just cutting with 2 blades is wrong and i had misinterpreted zoro's 3ss play).. Lets assume all the blades cut Kaido (seeing that scabbard did too its shouldn't band before claiming that its Oden's blades it.. He let's out a cry that IT HURTS and then says IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADES..
just goes to say Enma is the only one doing any substantial damage to Kaido is Woden's sword
Its both...yes technically as he uses it he gets accustomed to The mechanism.. as he uses its perks to his advantage.
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Dissmiss FALLACIES..
When Kaido specifies IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADE then say OwO AtLeast He DiDn't SaY OtHeR SwORds Didn't Cut Him... IS REDUNDANT.. how can you state such a statement with a straight face?
Even if you take it froma different perspective (it seems like my previous statement about onigiri just cutting with 2 blades is wrong and i had misinterpreted zoro's 3ss play).. Lets assume all the blades cut Kaido (seeing that scabbard did too its shouldn't band before claiming that its Oden's blades it.. He let's out a cry that IT HURTS and then says IT MUST BE ODEN'S BLADES..
just goes to say Enma is the only one doing any substantial damage to Kaido is Woden's sword
How can you continue to push that headcannon after all the facts provided.
Since Oden fought and cut Kaido with both his sword we have known that enma is not needed to cut Kaido. Nor does it give the user the power to cut Kaido. It's the user's haki. We later saw all the Scabbards cut Kaido without using enma. That was more proof the user haki is the power needed to cut Kaido. None of them were skill or strong enough to use enma, which was proof they are not at Zoro's level. None of their haki was shown to be as strong as Zoro's haki.
Kaido never stated enma cut him or it was the reason he was cut. He said that attack hurt and linked it to Oden. We know that was because of the connection enma has with Oden, who gave him PTSD.
We saw the exact same thing when the Scabbards cut him. He was saying their attack hurt and that was because of the connection they have with Oden. Kaido even thought they were using his haki. We know they don't have Oden's haki, they have their own.
As you can see it has everything to do with their connection to Oden. If Zoro's other swords had any connection to Oden then those swords would have been mentioned too
Oden didn't need Enma to cut Kaido. He already had pretty strong armament to begin with which is why both Ame no habakiri and Enma made a cut.
The same is true with the scabbards. They were all directly taught by Oden on how to use his style and Oden's haki which is what Kaido was referring to. The only problem is the scabbards aren't as good as Oden which is why the cuts were shallow.
We saw Zoro fail to cut Kaido in his first attempt which makes it pretty clear that he isn't able to do the same thing without putting more power into Enma.
Big Mom doesn't have Oden PTSD and she was pretty certain that the blade was unique and or dangerous in some way.
Saying Enma doesn't give a power boost or that it isn't directly related to Zoro cutting Kaido is to ignore manga facts. There's plenty of evidence to back this up. But we already knew all this about Enma before the rooftop fight even started.
As I've already said in this post enma doesn't give the user the ability to cut Kaido. That power comes from the users haki. The fact Oden cut Kaido with both swords makes that very clear.
Oden taught the Scabbards his style, not his haki. They might have been taught haki or ryuo like him but they don't possess his haki. They cut Kaido before they his Oden's 2 sword style attack.
Big Mom did say it's not an ordinary blade but she never stated the sword was giving Zoro the power to cut Kaido.
You seem to have forgotten the scene prior to Zoro comment about enma.
As we can all see in that scene Zoro is using little to no haki. He's not using blackened haki. Yes, I know that there is invisible haki so the question is why would Zoro use less or weaker haki against Kaido, Yonko with a near invincible body, then he used against Killer and Pica?
Answer. Oda did that to show us enma doesn't give Zoro the power to cut Kaido. If it did, he would have cut Kaido there since he wanted to cut him. Because he didn't cut Kaido that proves it is up to Zoro and the amount of haki he is using, not enma.
I know. What about the scene where Zoro talks about releasing enma power. That scene is not meant to be taken literal. It is there to remind us enma is making it harder for Zoro to control his haki so if he wants to use haki or more haki he's going to have to focus on enma. At that point in time in the manga he didn't have any problems controlling enma if he was not using any haki.
Remember, this scene here explains to us how enma works.
If anybody finds themselves posting or believing anything that goes against this scene then they are wrong.
Enma doesn't give Zoro anything. It doesn't make his haki stronger. It takes his haki. Everything that is done with that sword comes from the user.
This scene explains the benefits Zoro will gain from having this sword.
He will become stronger but it's not an instant power. It's a strength Zoro will gain in time from learning to control and master the sword. That power will be improved CoA haki control. It's like training with a weighted vest. You will become stronger with it in time but it won't automatically make you stronger just by wearing it.
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